Penalty kick rule

[Nitrain00]

Someone told me that in one game (a couple of years ago?) Andriy Shevchenko stepped up to take his penalty and squared off a ball into the path of a teammate who ran in the box upon Sheva touching the ball and hammered it home. I didn't think it was allowed, but the argument was that Shevchenko touched it and anyone else can touch it next as long as it isn't the penalty taker. Can anyone confirm this story and/or validate that the play is within FIFA rules? Thanks

[Ref Flunkie]

Someone told me that in one game (a couple of years ago?) Andriy Shevchenko stepped up to take his penalty and squared off a ball into the path of a teammate who ran in the box upon Sheva touching the ball and hammered it home. I didn't think it was allowed, but the argument was that Shevchenko touched it and anyone else can touch it next as long as it isn't the penalty taker. Can anyone confirm this story and/or validate that the play is within FIFA rules? Thanks


Yes this is perfectly legal, as long as the ball is played forward and the other player was not in the area prior to the ball being kicked. I do remember hearing about this occurring occasionally, but obviously it is easier and less risky to just take the penalty normally.

[Jasonma]

Someone told me that in one game (a couple of years ago?) Andriy Shevchenko stepped up to take his penalty and squared off a ball into the path of a teammate who ran in the box upon Sheva touching the ball and hammered it home. I didn't think it was allowed, but the argument was that Shevchenko touched it and anyone else can touch it next as long as it isn't the penalty taker. Can anyone confirm this story and/or validate that the play is within FIFA rules? Thanks

The 2005 (?) U.S. Hall of Fame game between Colorado and D.C. had this exact PK. Balboa kicked it forward to Clavijo(both playing for Colorado as a Hall of Fame inductees) who put it away.

[Footballer]

This is one of those scenarios where you almost never see it, but if you do see it, you have to respect the players who know about it. I bet you some coaches wouldn't even know it.

[falcon.7]

This reminds me of that Manchester United-Lille free kick - totally legal, but still generates discussion. This could actually be used quite effectively. Player A taps the ball, causing the keeper to dive to one side, then Player B runs up and boots in the other way.

There was a situation a year or so back in some game where the kicking player ran up and then checked his run, trying to get the keeper to dive before he kicked it. Unfortunately, he tapped the ball a little forward when he did, and an alert defender came in a hammered the ball away. The kicker stood at the spot in complete shock that he had flubbed up.

[Rufusabc]

That was Henry. He double touched the ball as he tried to hit a breaking Robert Pires with a pass. The first touch was barely there, but the ball moved and the 2nd touch pushed it to Pires.

Rog

[serieAfan89]

yeah.

this type of penalty is pretty risky. We've talked about it in high school but with the quality of the referees here i doubt it would even work. But another trick play we did was on a corner kick..we got one player to go down to the corner and just barely touch it into play without anyone noticing and then get another player to go down and act like he was the one taking the corner instead. Then he could just take a quick cross without the defending team being set and stand a substantial chance of scoring. It was actually pretty effective.

[Wahoo]

yeah.

this type of penalty is pretty risky. We've talked about it in high school but with the quality of the referees here i doubt it would even work. But another trick play we did was on a corner kick..we got one player to go down to the corner and just barely touch it into play without anyone noticing and then get another player to go down and act like he was the one taking the corner instead. Then he could just take a quick cross without the defending team being set and stand a substantial chance of scoring. It was actually pretty effective.

Seriously?
I've seen that tried tons of times, and it was never really effective. Definitely not more than a well driven corner. But I figured it worked for someone and that's why others tried it.

Anyway, sorry for the diversion

[Ref Flunkie]

yeah.

this type of penalty is pretty risky. We've talked about it in high school but with the quality of the referees here i doubt it would even work. But another trick play we did was on a corner kick..we got one player to go down to the corner and just barely touch it into play without anyone noticing and then get another player to go down and act like he was the one taking the corner instead. Then he could just take a quick cross without the defending team being set and stand a substantial chance of scoring. It was actually pretty effective.


The "barely touch" is not considered a touch anymore. You must make a kicking motion of some sort (or at least enough to move the ball), which a tap on top of the ball does not constitute. I remember reading somewhere that there is a term FIFA uses for this that makes it somewhat vague what sort of action actually puts the ball into play. Coaches in our area are confused on this as well.

[leg_breaker]

Doesn't it have to move one full rotation?

[NHRef]

Doesn't it have to move one full rotation?

Nope, that's old. It now has to be "kicked and moved" where "moved" means the ref saw the ball move as a result of a kicking motion by the foot.

The CK play never made sense to me, first off if it's that "sneaky" you run the risk of the ref not recognizing the "kick" and if they do, what you gain a few feet before the defenders rush the ball? Just place a nice CK cross and get on with the game.

[LoewenBoy]

Doesn't it have to move one full rotation?
LOL...as was said before, no it does not...old rule. However, "kicked and it moves" was not enough. So now the interpretation is "kicked a there is substantial movement", ergo, somewhere between "kicked and moves" and "one full rotation". Got to love our job!!!

I did a recent match where the kick taker's shot hit the post, did not touch anyone else and he played it into the goal. Team and coach celebrate the goal, while my team is setting up for an Indirect Kick for the other team at the spot of the double-touch foul. :D After the match the coach said, "isn't the goal considered part of the field?" My response: "Yes, but that is not the rule governing kicks." Tried to explain, he wanted none of it. Made sure his league director sent him the FIFA link to the LOTG governing PKs.:D

[Gary V]

I did a recent match where the kick taker's shot hit the post, did not touch anyone else and he played it into the goal. Team and coach celebrate the goal, while my team is setting up for an Indirect Kick for the other team at the spot of the double-touch foul. :D After the match the coach said, "isn't the goal considered part of the field?" My response: "Yes, but that is not the rule governing kicks." Tried to explain, he wanted none of it. Made sure his league director sent him the FIFA link to the LOTG governing PKs.:DDid you point out that while the goalpost is often the keeper's best friend, it's still not a player?

[LoewenBoy]

Did you point out that while the goalpost is often the keeper's best friend, it's still not a player?
LOL...tried. He was more intent on making sure he made the point that I did not know the LOTG.:rolleyes: I wanted to make the point that B License coaches should!:D But at that level you just walk away.

[IASocFan]

That reminds me of a play from 25 years ago. A U14 player takes a PK, slams it into the crossbar, and moves away from the rebounding ball. His coach/dad yells why didn't he play it again. He explained that he couldn't touch it twice.





He had remember from when I'd call it on him before! :cool:

[Ref Flunkie]

LOL...tried. He was more intent on making sure he made the point that I did not know the LOTG.:rolleyes: I wanted to make the point that B License coaches should!:D But at that level you just walk away.

At that point, I challenge him to protest the game if he thinks he is right.

[LoewenBoy]

At that point, I challenge him to protest the game if he thinks he is right.
In my younger days I would have. In my old age I just retreat with that sort of Roman-style superiority knowing that I am correct and that he can wallow in his ignorance.:D Pearls before swine...;)

[rippingood]

LOL...as was said before, no it does not...old rule. However, "kicked and it moves" was not enough. So now the interpretation is "kicked a there is substantial movement", ergo, somewhere between "kicked and moves" and "one full rotation". Got to love our job!!!

I did a recent match where the kick taker's shot hit the post, did not touch anyone else and he played it into the goal. Team and coach celebrate the goal, while my team is setting up for an Indirect Kick for the other team at the spot of the double-touch foul. :D After the match the coach said, "isn't the goal considered part of the field?" My response: "Yes, but that is not the rule governing kicks." Tried to explain, he wanted none of it. Made sure his league director sent him the FIFA link to the LOTG governing PKs.:D

That really is funny. The field is part of the field, too. By that coach's logic, perhaps he thinks that a ball that rolls on the ground should be playable as well. Result would be more like a hockey penalty shot...

[Ref Flunkie]

In my younger days I would have. In my old age I just retreat with that sort of Roman-style superiority knowing that I am correct and that he can wallow in his ignorance.:D Pearls before swine...;)

Well I would do it simply to end the "debate". Basically "Coach, feel free to protest the game if you feel you are correct."

However, a gladiator style faceoff between ourselves and the coaches does sound entertaining :).

[Gary V]

Well I would do it simply to end the "debate". Basically "Coach, feel free to protest the game if you feel you are correct."
Well let's just inflame things a little more. "... protest the game, but you'll be wasting your money."