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Green Tabasco
11 May 2003, 01:47 PM
This is an offshoot of another thread. Some interesting names were mentioned.

Players destined for greatness is a touchy subject. I'll list a few of me personal choices.

Aimar, Saviola, Riquelme (ARG). Ronaldinho, Denilson (BRZ). Santa Cruz (PGY). Owen, Rooney (ENG).

And many many others....

What are your picks?

AFCA
11 May 2003, 01:52 PM
Sneijder, Van der Vaart, De Jong, Pienaar. Vd meijde

Maczebus
11 May 2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by robincd
Owen, (ENG).

I think Owen could be classed as a little too old nowadays to be considered a youngster.

Green Tabasco
11 May 2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by maczebus
I think Owen could be classed as a little too old nowadays to be considered a youngster.

Hes 23. How young do they have to be? 13?
I think any player over the age of 26 is out.

Maczebus
11 May 2003, 02:22 PM
He's been in the business at the sharp end, for around 6 years now.
Been to 2 WCs and scored at both of them.

In my opinion he's neither young (enough to be considered in this list), nor an up-and-comer.

On the up-and-comer topic, I wouldn't necessarily have Ronaldinho on the list either - but he's definitely more deserving of a place than Owen is.

Green Tabasco
11 May 2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by maczebus
He's been in the business at the sharp end, for around 6 years now.
Been to 2 WCs and scored at both of them.

In my opinion he's neither young (enough to be considered in this list), nor an up-and-comer.

On the up-and-comer topic, I wouldn't necessarily have Ronaldinho on the list either - but he's definitely more deserving of a place than Owen is.


OK maczebus. I'll buy your argument.

let's define the term Young Gun: Any player under the age of 26 that has been playing on "First Division" team (Major League for the american fans) for no more than 3 years. Fair?

Green Tabasco
11 May 2003, 02:43 PM
By the way, this brings up a new argument.

What Countries have the "most" Young Guns out there? or What countries are producing the most young world class players out there?

655321
11 May 2003, 02:52 PM
Hahaha, Owen a "young gun"??? Do you even watch this sport??

He's played in two World Cups. He's scored for England, what, 23? 26 times?? 100 Premier League goals, and over 130 for Liverpool over all??

He's way past. Please don't rank him with Rooney.

Green Tabasco
11 May 2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by 655321
Hahaha, Owen a "young gun"??? Do you even watch this sport??

He's played in two World Cups. He's scored for England, what, 23? 26 times?? 100 Premier League goals, and over 130 for Liverpool over all??

He's way past. Please don't rank him with Rooney.

I think I already defined the term Young Guns. read the earlier posts. But if any of you would like to re-define the term, please feel free.

skipshady
11 May 2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by robincd
Any player under the age of 26 that has been playing on "First Division" team (Major League for the american fans) for no more than 3 years. Fair? See, you can't seriously consider someone who's 24, 25 to be a "young gun". By that age, players are close to hitting their physical peaks and should be stars for their clubs and senior international sides.

Maczebus
11 May 2003, 03:02 PM
I think basically we're looking for around 20/21 and under to be considered as a young-gun.

Green Tabasco
11 May 2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
See, you can't seriously consider someone who's 24, 25 to be a "young gun". By that age, players are close to hitting their physical peaks and should be stars for their clubs and senior international sides.

Max 23 years of age? Lets define the term so we can get on with the list

comme
11 May 2003, 03:05 PM
There are so many, Rooney and Van der Vaart stand out. Then in SA Diego, Robinho, D'Allesandro, and plenty more who are supposed to have huge amounts of talents.

655321
11 May 2003, 03:18 PM
A "young gun" is someone who hasn't had the time to completely prove himself on a big stage, whether that be for the national team or club level. Michael Owen most certainly has on both.

BadReligion
11 May 2003, 05:37 PM
Chivu, D'Alessandro, Cassano.

TWR
11 May 2003, 05:43 PM
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