Broken Promises and Political Deception by Al Gore*

[phats_away]

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/04/opinion/04GORE.html

*sorry, you gotta register at nytimes.com to read this

[DoctorJones24]

His characterization of the Bush/Cheney team is pretty fair, but let's remember that these Democrats he is touting accept almost as much in donations and bribes as the Republicans from the same corporations. Basically, a vote for either of these two parties, when ANY alternative is available, is a vote against Democracy.

Ok, maybe not for the Constitution Party.

[TheWakeUpBomb]

The opening line is my favorite:

There has always been a debate over the destiny of this nation between those who believed they were entitled to govern because of their station in life, and those who believed that the people were sovereign.

This from a guy who took over his father's Senate seat, and then road the coattails of a popular presidential candidate/president when his own politcal career seemingly reached its zenith.

I know he trying to put GWB in the former category here, but he is right there with him.

[DoctorJones24]

Absolutely, WakeupBomb. He and GW are both part of the "East Coast brahmin" class that Vidal loves to criticize.

PS: What does your signiature mean? Try to stop America from doing what? And who is the "us" in that line? Soccer or political reference? Just curious.

[TheWakeUpBomb]

Originally posted by DoctorJones24
Absolutely, WakeupBomb. He and GW are both part of the "East Coast brahmin" class that Vidal loves to criticize.

PS: What does your signiature mean? Try to stop America from doing what? And who is the "us" in that line? Soccer or political reference? Just curious.

I may have missed the exact statement, but it was on a t-shirt that Homer wears when the Simpsons visited Rio. The lifeguard picks Homer and Bart out as Americans at the beach, and Homer wants to know how the lifeguard knew he was an American. As Homer turns to the lifeguard, you see his t-shirt which has a picture of Uncle Sam baring his teeth and taking a bite of the globe with "Just Try To Stop Us" written across the top. Funny stuff.

[DoctorJones24]

Originally posted by TheWakeUpBomb


I may have missed the exact statement, but it was on a t-shirt that Homer wears when the Simpsons visited Rio. The lifeguard picks Homer and Bart out as Americans at the beach, and Homer wants to know how the lifeguard knew he was an American. As Homer turns to the lifeguard, you see his t-shirt which has a picture of Uncle Sam baring his teeth and taking a bite of the globe with "Just Try To Stop Us" written across the top. Funny stuff.

Awesome.

[TheWakeUpBomb]

And Joe's not a fan.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=548&u=/ap/20020804/ap_on_el_ge/lieberman_gore_5&printer=1

Al Gore's 2000 running mate said Sunday that Gore's populist themes did not accurately reflect the Democrats' pro-growth campaign for the White House.


"The people versus the powerful theme was too subject to misunderstanding and not representative" of the economic growth that occurred during the 1990s under President Clinton ( news - web sites) and Vice President Gore, said Sen. Joseph Lieberman ( news, bio, voting record), D-Conn.

The populist approach, Lieberman said, was "also not expressive of the fiscally responsible, pro-growth, grow-the-middle-class campaign we were running" that included targeted tax cuts and other centrist proposals championed by the Democratic Leadership Council.

[Dan Loney]

Backstory: Joe's backing off a promise not to run against Al for the Democratic nomination.

This will be a highly amusing primary, at least on the Democratic side. Of course, Bush might lose a primary or two running unopposed, at the rate he's going.

[TheWakeUpBomb]

Originally posted by Dan Loney
Backstory: Joe's backing off a promise not to run against Al for the Democratic nomination.


In the Yahoo story above, he again makes the promise not to run against Gore.

Lieberman also repeated this pledge that he will not run for the White House in 2004 if Gore seeks a rematch with President Bush ( news - web sites).

"Out of gratitude and out of friendship for the extraordinary opportunity that Al gave me to run with him in 2000, I've said that I will not run if he runs, and I will not," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

[Manolo]

Originally posted by TheWakeUpBomb
The opening line is my favorite:



This from a guy who took over his father's Senate seat, and then road the coattails of a popular presidential candidate/president when his own politcal career seemingly reached its zenith.

I know he trying to put GWB in the former category here, but he is right there with him.

I think it shows character that Gore is privileged yet still promotes a pro-working class ideology. Criticizing Gore because he too was born into privilege is, more appropriately, a criticism of inequalities inherent in our socioeconomic system that make it virtually impossible for those born to middle or working-class families to aspire to the presidency. People like Gore envision a world where those not born into privilege can wield political influence and be elected to high office, something which is not realistic in the current system.

[Colin Grabow]

Originally posted by Manolo
People like Gore envision a world where those not born into privilege can wield political influence and be elected to high office, something which is not realistic in the current system.

Ronald Reagan was born into privilege? And wasn't Bill Clinton just a good old boy from tiny Hope, Arkansas?

[joseph pakovits]

Originally posted by Manolo

People like Gore envision a world where those not born into privilege can wield political influence and be elected to high office, something which is not realistic in the current system.

Oh you can do it if you're not from a rich elite family but you have to whore yourself to the Fortune 500 to get the necessary $$$ to run.

What the current system does it keeps almost all parties and candidates within an ideological box acceptable to the CEOs and the interests of Big Businesses which are the only social institutions capable of successfully funding most Congressional and Presidential campaigns.

[Ian McCracken]

Originally posted by Dan Loney
Backstory: Joe's backing off a promise not to run against Al for the Democratic nomination.


Oh, this is going to be so fun! Hillary against Lieberman against Gore. Sit back and get the popcorn ready! Could the Democrats be so suicidal as to nominate one of those three sure losers?? The ONLY Democrat currently being mentioned with any chance against GW is John Edwards from North Carolina. This is only because he's from the "south" and once his trial lawyer record is opened up for scrutiny I'm sure he'll fall like a ton-o-bricks as well. Election 2004 is over, folks. GWB will be re-elected, probably in a landslide. The American people are not going to fault him if the economy tanks because they realize 9/11 has a lot to do with it. But, gosh dang, I'm going to enjoy the Demoncratic primaries with Hillary and Gore chirping back and forth at each other.

[SoFla Metro]

Just curious, Ian. Edwards is from North Carolina. Why is that the "south" and not the south (sans quote marks?)

[Manolo]

Originally posted by Ian McCracken

Election 2004 is over, folks. GWB will be re-elected, probably in a landslide. The American people are not going to fault him if the economy tanks because they realize 9/11 has a lot to do with it.

So, not only does 9/11 make Bush untouchable on foreign policy, but it also protects him from criticism of his domestic and economic policy?!

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I hope that American voters realize that 9/11 is no reason to abandon their right to make an intelligent, informed decision.

[Garcia]

Originally posted by TheWakeUpBomb


In the Yahoo story above, he again makes the promise not to run against Gore.

That and his current 5% piece of the polled vote.

[Garcia]

Originally posted by Manolo

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I hope that American voters realize that 9/11 is no reason to abandon their right to make an intelligent, informed decision. Like anybody really has ever done such a thing?

[Manolo]

Originally posted by Garcia
Like anybody really has ever done such a thing?

Silly me...I forgot about all the people who voted for Bush the first time around!

[Ian McCracken]

Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Just curious, Ian. Edwards is from North Carolina. Why is that the "south" and not the south (sans quote marks?)

I put it in quotes because some people don't consider North Carolina as part of the current day south, especially with the huge influx of northeasterners into the state.

[Mike Lane]

Yep. I'm voting against Bush, and will be out there screaming in support of his opponent if he invade Iraq.