When Will They Stop Blaming Arsenal?

[antifan]

And



This thread is an over-reaction, Arsenal are used as the example because they are an extreme example. Personally I think Venables has got it wrong, the academy system is only a small part of the problem.

Speaking of the Academy system how many of you know that Arsenal's academy can sign a young player from Portugal but not from Birmingham due to the FA's ridiculous limits on club catchment areas?
I think its odd that the FA chooses to criticize how certain clubs choose to operate their academies. Especially when they shuttered the national team's academy and chose to spend their money on an overpriced stadium and Sven's salary instead of developing English youth players.

[Prenn]

I think its odd that the FA chooses to criticize how certain clubs choose to operate their academies. Especially when they shuttered the national team's academy and chose to spend their money on an overpriced stadium and Sven's salary instead of developing English youth players.

Terry Venables is not the FA but you are right to criticise them, their decision making is amateur.

[flyerhawk]

Apparently we're destroying the FA Cup as well...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=411178&cc=5901

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Arsenal are anti-football.

[KevTheGooner]

:rolleyes:

Do you really think there's anyone out there who doesn't think you have to pay a premium for English players?

Thank you for affirming my point.

:rolleyes: right back at you

[CRASH 4 ARSENAL]

Arsenal are anti-football.

We've been exposed.

[thebigman]

no offense american arsenal followers but im sure all english fans would agree, a few englishmen in our team would be nice as we are located in england!

i understand your points entirely, fergy spending nearly 20 mill on an average midfield 'passer' while for that money wenger gets denilson, diaby, rosicky and maybe edebayor as well makes a firm point

i guess it comes down to football being a business now, spend less on foreigners and acheive sucess for less...this logically increases your profits, also playing the most attractive football in the league along side man yooo (this year) also helps

so unless the must have 3 englishmen rule or whatever was sugessted is implemented and untill wenger is gone, the current system will stay in place

i do find his brit ownership comment slightly contradictive but whatever, what manager hasnt contradited himself at least slightly?

and lol at the sperm fans polluting the board, maybe when u are a top team we can take what u say a little more seriously

[InTheSun]

i do find his brit ownership comment slightly contradictive but whatever, what manager hasnt contradited himself at least slightly?
You know, I don't really find that contradictive when you weigh the whole statement. He expressed that players and managers are transitory, and so the direction of a club can be altered more easily. Owners are less so. They have the power to make decisions that can affect a club for generations.

[GriffinGunner]

Apparently we're destroying the FA Cup as well...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=411178&cc=5901

This argument is messed up. If he wants to see more upsets and smaller clubs advance then it should be happening by virtue of Arsenal and other big clubs often playing alternate lineups, yet somehow the smaller clubs still aren't succeeding. Should Arsenal and ManU play their development sides so as to allow the occasional QPR victory?!! If he's complaining that the "weakened" lineups disrespect the competition then perhaps he'd enjoy watching his stars play 50+ games a year and see how well they hold up?!


The bigger clubs are not damaging the Cup tourneys, it's the saturation of games that forces clubs and fans to prioritize. Don't blame Arsenal if other clubs aren't performing on the field when the whistle blows.

[pookspur]

... and lol at the sperm fans polluting the board, maybe when u are a top team we can take what u say a little more seriously

that's a bit rich, coming from a blue brummie.

perhaps if you could get past your ludicrous implication, you wouldn't feel compelled to find alternatives to your own club and rub elbows with the league's 'upper crust'. but then, we all want to be taken seriously, don't we?


"keep right on ... you gunners!"

[scott47a]

no offense american arsenal followers but im sure all english fans would agree, a few englishmen in our team would be nice as we are located in england!

so unless the must have 3 englishmen rule or whatever was sugessted is implemented and untill wenger is gone, the current system will stay in place

As an American Arsenal fan I want to say I understand your thinking completely. In Canada, just north of where I live, they have Canadian Content rules for everything -- number of Canadian players on Canadian football league teams, number of songs played on the radio by Canadian artists, tv programming. They are very worried about being overrun by the U.S.

I have always thought of England as a much more broad-minded place -- you know "the sun never sets on the empire" and that sort of thing.
But I do understand the concern.

I'm sure you understand though, that as an Arsenal fan I prefer the best players Arsenal can get on the field. I don't care where they come from, just how they play.

[goonsquad]

Anyone hear the Arsecast last week? He had a hilarious rendition of some xenophobic anti-Arsenal journos.Arsene Wenger's Frenchness is a problem for a lot of people! I know he can't do anything about it, but really, has he ever tried?

[Prenn]

Thank you for affirming my point.

:rolleyes: right back at you

No, to affirm your point I'd have to disagree with your assessment that you pay more for English players. I disagreed with 'England needs to realize', we're well aware of the fact that English players are expensive in comparison to relative foreign quality.

[KevTheGooner]

No, to affirm your point I'd have to disagree with your assessment that you pay more for English players. I disagreed with that 'England needs to realize', we're well aware of the fact that English players are expensive in comparison to relative foreign quality.

So you

1) disagree that you pay more for English players
2) are well aware of the fact that English players are expensive.

Did I get that right?

[Prenn]

So you

1) disagree that you pay more for English players
2) are well aware of the fact that English players are expensive.

Did I get that right?

No, maybe you want to re-read my posts?


Do you really think there's anyone out there who doesn't think you have to pay a premium for English players?

[flyerhawk]

Anyone hear the Arsecast last week? He had a hilarious rendition of some xenophobic anti-Arsenal journos.

That whole radio sequence was one of his best bits ever. I was in tears.

[TheImposter]

Anyone hear the Arsecast last week? He had a hilarious rendition of some xenophobic anti-Arsenal journos.
And had the incredible prescience to know that the very next day James Lawton would refer to AW as "the village bigot". The column is only slightly less over-the-top than the "Talk Shite Radio" segment, but is entirely serious. Arseblogger knows.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/comment/article2300393.ece

[Smalls123]

I'm sure when England doesn't get the 2018 World Cup it will be Arsenal's fault too

[thebigman]

lol i am a blue brummie but i also follow le arse and my coment was in compairson to the cockney sides

i know my team is pretty shit closer to home though

[goonsquad]

And had the incredible prescience to know that the very next day James Lawton would refer to AW as "the village bigot". The column is only slightly less over-the-top than the "Talk Shite Radio" segment, but is entirely serious. Arseblogger knows.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/comment/article2300393.ece

James Lawton is an enormous cvnt. I can't even read his drivel.