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chileno5
15 Feb 2007, 07:27 PM
Hey I was wondering how difficult it is making it to any professional team from anywhere in the world. I'm not just talking about a team like Chelsea or Barcelon because I know it's almost impossible to play on a team like that unless your a world class player, but how hard is it to make it on a team from the 2nd division in Europe or leagues that aren't well known in Europe or a team in Africa or somewhere in Asia or something.

JacopeX
15 Feb 2007, 09:59 PM
Its hard. The Coaches mostly see what they hear now days. So if you show up at tryouts, dont have your hopes up. But you should be expecting going to Try outs every season. :eek:

pdubc15
16 Feb 2007, 10:58 AM
Its hard. The Coaches mostly see what they hear now days. So if you show up at tryouts, dont have your hopes up. But you should be expecting going to Try outs every season. :eek:

it is tough. especially if you went to a school without a big reputation.
I went to a school on the east coast that was never a 'big time' team. but I made my way onto the all-conference team as a frosh, then made all-region as a junior. when we played the big time teams, I showed incredibly well. I got an invite to a combine and got spotted by a couple of the a-league coaches. they were excited because I had fallen through the cracks. I knew I could play at that level, but I didn't have 'the shot' that others were given. I took a less conventional road.
if you are persistent, and bring real skills to the table, you can find a team who will take a chance with you.

Ivsito
16 Feb 2007, 04:15 PM
It can be difficult to make a team anywhere. My Brother is 24 and He played with the All Air Force team. He is just comming back from 1 Month of tryouts in El salvador Div 1. He got to play a few scrimages with FAS "the biggest team there" and some other teams, but because of league laws for non citizens, the 3 teams he trained with could not sign him. If you are going to try-out in another country you have to make sure you can afford to live there, and that the teams does not already have its limit in foreign players. He is back in the usa now and was scouted to tryout out for the railhawks in march

Make sure you can train for about three, 2 hour periods a day. And still be able to play the next day. It is also good if you have a connection in another country if you want to tryout. It makes the adjustments to the culture and communication more easy. And just dont give up.

I would try a slavic country, they dont have all the money to scout like germany, france, england, spain... And most dont go there to tryout, that give you a better oppertunity as a foreigner.

JacopeX
16 Feb 2007, 09:33 PM
It can be difficult to make a team anywhere. My Brother is 24 and He played with the All Air Force team. He is just comming back from 1 Month of tryouts in El salvador Div 1. He got to play a few scrimages with FAS "the biggest team there" and some other teams, but because of league laws for non citizens, the 3 teams he trained with could not sign him. If you are going to try-out in another country you have to make sure you can afford to live there, and that the teams does not already have its limit in foreign players. He is back in the usa now and was scouted to tryout out for the railhawks in march

Make sure you can train for about three, 2 hour periods a day. And still be able to play the next day. It is also good if you have a connection in another country if you want to tryout. It makes the adjustments to the culture and communication more easy. And just dont give up.

I would try a slavic country, they dont have all the money to scout like germany, france, england, spain... And most dont go there to tryout, that give you a better oppertunity as a foreigner.
I practice every day in the Spring, Summer, and Fall(sometime). But here in the winter, it is that time when I lose skills since I am a horrible Futsal Player. :rolleyes:

I have a unknown Reputation in soccer. No one knows me at all, nor do coaches, yet im stuck in leagues I can easily come out as the top scorer. I feel like im being held back alot. Im trying to get into travel, that way it will preapare me for Varsity high school soccer and from there, I will see if I either try for Premier soccer or France ((Americana TM))

S.cott-s
04 Apr 2007, 02:49 AM
i have never because im too young but i imagine it to be very very very hard.
so waht u need to do is want it more than others. if this means getting up at 5:30 to go train before school so be it. and u need to be confident in yourself

Lovefutball
14 Apr 2007, 12:59 AM
My friend was able to get a trial with AC Nancy right out of high school. Having connections helps, for example, one of the coaches on a local club used to play for Tottenham Hotspur, so I would imagine he is able to pull some strings for the players on his team with real potential.

PrimeObjective
03 May 2007, 04:03 PM
It's hard, and takes a lot of hard work. When I got scouted for Fulham, they watched me for 4 games before they signed me up. Even now though, it's always touch and go whether you play or not. I had to improve myself in fitness, because I was so behind the other players. Although I signed up till next year, my spot still isn't safe. I'm not the best player in the team, just the strongest winger.

persianfootball
05 May 2007, 12:40 PM
pretty much luck is all you need. the difference between a professional player and someone who thinks they are good enough to be professional is very little. in fact if you let that person to start for one game on a professional team, he might even play better than the professional player.

Lovefutball
06 May 2007, 01:22 AM
Can someone explain to me how tryouts work? Lets say you want to play for a Division 1 English team, do they hold open tryouts, or do you need to be scouted and invited?

And_ROOS
06 May 2007, 07:39 AM
Certain clubs have open try outs, of which they will take upto 10 to try outs with invited players from other clubs/areas.

Skizz
07 May 2007, 02:05 PM
Can someone explain to me how tryouts work? Lets say you want to play for a Division 1 English team, do they hold open tryouts, or do you need to be scouted and invited?

At the team I played for (League One side, they were a Championship/Division One team when I played for them) you were scouted a few times playing for club teams/school teams, and if they thought you were good enough you were invited to train with the team, IE tryouts over a couple of weeks. If you were good enough you got in.

Open tryouts among league teams are extremely rare, if at all. Non-league teams sometimes have them, I went to open trials for the team I am playing for next season and got in, so that's your best bet.

Raja Casablanca
07 May 2007, 06:43 PM
To be honest it's just like any other sport, industry, and most everything. Either you're good enough for them to come find you.
Or it's who you know not what you know.
It's like the saying "out of sight out of mind" you can't be signed if no one knows you exist

Lovefutball
07 May 2007, 11:44 PM
At the team I played for (League One side, they were a Championship/Division One team when I played for them) you were scouted a few times playing for club teams/school teams, and if they thought you were good enough you were invited to train with the team, IE tryouts over a couple of weeks. If you were good enough you got in.

Open tryouts among league teams are extremely rare, if at all. Non-league teams sometimes have them, I went to open trials for the team I am playing for next season and got in, so that's your best bet.

So as far as being an international from the US, if I ever wanted a trail with some league one or championship team, my best bet would be to build a reputation in the states first, or to try to find some connections or something?

Skizz
08 May 2007, 11:30 AM
Yeah...I mean the bigger teams will have bigger scouting networks. I think your best hope is to work your way up in the US or try and get a route into Belgium or somewhere that is a known feeder ground for English/big European teams.

European16
11 May 2007, 12:52 AM
i trialed with a pro team in germany 2 years ago.

its definitly hard but its not what peopel tell you. you must be good tho. i grew up playing in germany for good teams and moved to canada and i play for a top team here.

i went back and trialed.
skills are important but not as importand as stamina. if you cant run your done. RUN RUN RUN RUN!!!!. i was killign these players but i died out before they did. they invited me back so il lsee.

im 19 now by the way.

Bobbyswe
11 May 2007, 05:20 AM
i trialed with a pro team in germany 2 years ago.

its definitly hard but its not what peopel tell you. you must be good tho. i grew up playing in germany for good teams and moved to canada and i play for a top team here.

i went back and trialed.
skills are important but not as importand as stamina. if you cant run your done. RUN RUN RUN RUN!!!!. i was killign these players but i died out before they did. they invited me back so il lsee.

im 19 now by the way.

Interesting, please tell more :)

when you say running, what is more important: Fast sprinting or long distance/stamina? I am very good at the first but no so good at the latter, working on it though...

European16
11 May 2007, 06:06 PM
Interesting, please tell more :)

when you say running, what is more important: Fast sprinting or long distance/stamina? I am very good at the first but no so good at the latter, working on it though...

aha no problem.
well i played a little super-y league soccer in the USA since i live right on the border to the states. i live in canada though. and then iswitched to a canadian team and i could run more then mostly everyone. when i came to the 1st day at the trials, i thought i was gonna kill these kids, i did mostly at first but then after a while, i started dieing out and i couldnt move as much and these other kids are going the same speed as when they started. burning me left and right. so i had to get used to it and i got in shape pretty quickly.


being fast can only help you. so its pretty important.

but youll need good stamina for the long run so that you can play the entire 90minutes.

start running A LOT! couple km's a day and start doing sprints.

and by the way someone said try going pro in germany, but i wouldnt recomend that, try somewhere else. trust me.

Bobbyswe
11 May 2007, 07:18 PM
So were they holding back in the begining to last longer? Was this the trial for the german pro team?

What more did the trials consist of ?

What do you think is the best way to prepare/train for a trial of this kind?

European16
11 May 2007, 11:07 PM
So were they holding back in the begining to last longer? Was this the trial for the german pro team?

What more did the trials consist of ?

What do you think is the best way to prepare/train for a trial of this kind?

no they werent holding back...they play 100% for the full 90 minutes. the way they start, they will end it the same way, with jus tas much energy and effort. ya it was professional team. at first they made me play with their U19 youth team who participated in the junior bundesliga. i did pretty good there. and tthen i got invited to the pro team and they invited me back this summer. My trials where during christmas break. so they had a 2 week break right before i came. so they started getting back into things slowly since they had 2 more weeks to prepare for their next season game. we practiced 5 times a week, for about 3-4 hours a day. by tehe way, this was in an indoor complex arena. we basically ran for stretched liek crazy for 30 minutes, ran for about 1:30 - 2 hours and the rest we just scrimmaged.

best way to prepare?
do you play with a club team right now?

well run for at least 1-2 hours a day for about 5 or 6 times a week.
after that, do some sprints for about an hour, of course take breaks in between for about 20 seconds or whatever, but dont make it too long. really push your self.

after that, take a ball dribble around, juggle, ran with the ball, do some moves on the go. it be better if you had others to play with so you can pass and do all that other stuff. play with the ball.

this sounds like a lot and your probably thinking this is way to much work but trust me, this is what kids do back in europe. belive me on this. these kids train hard every week. by the time you get there you'll be in shape and youll be on par with them and thats when you show em how to play hopefully:).

start training about 2 months before your trial.

also, what countrys and clusbs are you going to contact?

i am going to europe this summer and i will be contacting teams tomrrow.

let me know