Phoenix SSS, Where should it be built?

[gilmoreaz]

If things progress for Phoenix and MLS, where should a Soccer Specific Stadium be built?

[Calexico77]

St. Louis or Philadelphia, hopefully.

[calibre]

Somewhere central, we do have the space for it. North Phoenix? not sure but it shall be teh best evar. All the jealous hating roaches, phoenix is getting a team, no MLS or Businessmen gonna give a crap what some stupid nerdy bigsoccer posters have to say. Can't wait, i want Atlas to come. :D

[Tucson_soccer_fan]

Queen Creek would be fine with me.

[yellowbismark]

Tempe or Chandler

[phxinferno]

I cut and pasted this from the other phoenix post...:cool:


In the City of Phoenix, mayor and council can only spend up to $3 million dollars without a vote of the people for sports and entertainment purposes. But, that wouldn't stop them from providing land already owned by the city to build on. In east Phoenix near the zoo and right next to the City's baseball Muni Stadium is a huge parking lot that goes almost completely unused outside of Spring Training. A 20 grand seat SSS could be built on the western side of the site. There is plenty of surrounding ancillary parking to make up the difference. Plus, it would be a 1/2 mile from a new light rail stop and several freeway interchanges.

google (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=33.445677,-111.952915&spn=0.011906,0.019956&t=k&om=1) maps for Phoenix Municipal Stadium...

One other thing, the baseball stadium is the spring training site for the Oakland Athletics, who are owned by a man named Wolff, who owns the rights to the SJ Earthquakes. That could be the necessary influence in "helping the city decide" to lease the land for a SSS.

The eastern Valley cities are too cheap to help on this aside from Tempe who is land locked and land is scarce. And the West Valley already has the Cardinal's Stadium. The Phoenix Muni site is pretty centrally located with great accesibility.

[aavius]

I cut and pasted this from the other phoenix post...:cool:


In the City of Phoenix, mayor and council can only spend up to $3 million dollars without a vote of the people for sports and entertainment purposes. But, that wouldn't stop them from providing land already owned by the city to build on. In east Phoenix near the zoo and right next to the City's baseball Muni Stadium is a huge parking lot that goes almost completely unused outside of Spring Training. A 20 grand seat SSS could be built on the western side of the site. There is plenty of surrounding ancillary parking to make up the difference. Plus, it would be a 1/2 mile from a new light rail stop and several freeway interchanges.

google (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=33.445677,-111.952915&spn=0.011906,0.019956&t=k&om=1) maps for Phoenix Municipal Stadium...

One other thing, the baseball stadium is the spring training site for the Oakland Athletics, who are owned by a man named Wolff, who owns the rights to the SJ Earthquakes. That could be the necessary influence in "helping the city decide" to lease the land for a SSS.

The eastern Valley cities are too cheap to help on this aside from Tempe who is land locked and land is scarce. And the West Valley already has the Cardinal's Stadium. The Phoenix Muni site is pretty centrally located with great accesibility.


The training ground is for the A's and is less than 4 min from the airport and only a couple from downtown Tempe and the lake. It is almost too perfect to hope for. The legislators will problably select a city like Glenndale that is at least a half hour (traffic time) from civilization. But, that would be the best location ever.

Aavius

[Old US Keeper]

Ideally I would like to see it on the east side of town (the Chandler resident in me talking), right off of Queen Creek & I-10, but then that's not fair to those on the north or west sides of town.

There is so much of south Phoenix that is begging for an overhaul right now, putting the stadium in that general area next to Chase Field makes sense.

[yellowbismark]

Maybe they can team up with an MLB team and build a MLB spring training/MLS stadium 18-20,000 seat stadium. I know this idea was thrown around a couple times in Tampa for their former MLS team.

[fc koshigaya]

Maybe they can team up with an MLB team and build a MLB spring training/MLS stadium 18-20,000 seat stadium. I know this idea was thrown around a couple times in Tampa for their former MLS team.

Well, if it's Moreno it could definetely happen especially since the Angels are already there

My dream would be for them to put it right next to MCC where fiesta mall sits cause when I was last in Mesa, the mall and everything around it was shriveling up and shutting down.

[AJMfilms]

The training ground is for the A's and is less than 4 min from the airport and only a couple from downtown Tempe and the lake. It is almost too perfect to hope for. The legislators will problably select a city like Glenndale that is at least a half hour (traffic time) from civilization. But, that would be the best location ever.

Aavius

Agreed! That paking lot never gets used and is a great location in Phoenix and relatively close to Tempe and Mill Ave. I likes where your head it at.

[phxinferno]

Ideally I would like to see it on the east side of town (the Chandler resident in me talking), right off of Queen Creek & I-10, but then that's not fair to those on the north or west sides of town.

There is so much of south Phoenix that is begging for an overhaul right now, putting the stadium in that general area next to Chase Field makes sense.


None of the east Valley cities, Tempe aside again, has the forsight to get this done. Mesa is pracitaclly broke because they don't have property taxes. And if you mean south of downtown, the land is way to expensive and you'll be in the flight path of the airport.

I| saw an article in the Arizona Republic today about a project in North Phoenix called Reach 11 - in summary; phase 1 has 10 new lighted soccer fields and 1,200 parking spaces and is opening this weekend - phase 2 will add and additional 11 fields, including a proposed 4,000 seat stadium. Hmmmmm...get in now to plan a 15,000 to 20,000 stadium on free city land...the possibilities are endless...It would be haul for me too, but I would still get season tickets...

The common denominator here is Peter Draskin, Coach of Grand Canyon University's soccer team, as well as thecurrent MLS push, as well as a relationship with SC Del Sol who will be using all of these fields for the International President's Day Tourney and I will assume be basing their club teams on these fields.


See all you Phoenix Metroplexers at the Crew/FC Dallas game, You could ask Draskin yourself....

[clubgarcia]

Maybe they can team up with an MLB team and build a MLB spring training/MLS stadium 18-20,000 seat stadium. I know this idea was thrown around a couple times in Tampa for their former MLS team.

If we are talking about Arte Moreno, there could be some juice to the notion that a mixed MLB spring training/MLS facility could be a viable site. That site would be Goodyear folks. And Goodyear is expected to grow at an astonomical pace over the next 20 years and beyond. Plus, consider the fact that many Latinos live in the southwest valley.

It doesn't matter to me where it goes. I'll be there no matter the location. Of course, this is all speculation, but when you look at the dynamics at play here, Goodyear with Arte Moreno is promising.

[clubgarcia]

Sorry, I am wrong about Goodyear. He threatened to build a facility there if Diablo wasn't improved. Cleveland Indians will be in Goodyear. I guess I crapped the bed on that one.

[voros]

Unfortunately the real answer is wherever they can get one built. I mean even if that's all the way out in Surprise or Apache Junction or something, that's still a shorter drive than the Home Depot Center.

[phxinferno]

The training ground is for the A's and is less than 4 min from the airport and only a couple from downtown Tempe and the lake. It is almost too perfect to hope for. The legislators will problably select a city like Glenndale that is at least a half hour (traffic time) from civilization. But, that would be the best location ever.

Aavius


Legislature would have nothingto do with this. Any proposal that needed state help for procurement or tax subsidies would DOA. We need a benevolent city that will give our team a $1 a year lease on the land and throw in some infrastructure $$$, maybe some development fee waivers...and off we go...

Stadium at Phoenix Muni and training grounds at the Reach 11...

[Old US Keeper]

This comes up again & again………
what about indian land? All that reservation that is unused by Firebird Raceway……

[MLSinAZ]

this is not a bad idea... however, I'm sure the Native Americans would love to get in on the action (they fought tooth and nail for the Cards stadium) and they have a TON of unused land in the middle of the Phoenix/Metro area.... right at the 202 & 101 interchange...

either way, I'll GIVE MLS my house in Queen Creek if it makes a difference in coming here or not

[gilmoreaz]

Hopefully, several cities step up and express an interest to build an SSS.

The indian reservations are definitely in play!

Location isn't so much the key, just that it would be built right and an enjoyable venue for local fans.

[phxinferno]

I remember reading that Garber/MLS had had talks with at least one of the tribes and it the idea was thrown out, but hey things change. The tribes are really starting to look at economic development around their edges to take advantage of off reservation $$$, the right deal and they might even throw in their own casino money...

I don't think that the reservation South of Auwatukee to the south is very viable, there is only the I-10 and it is horrendous. I remember going to concerts at compton terrace and the wait to get in and out of the parking lot was excruciating! Kind of like the parking after the US - Mexico match at the University of PHOENIX Stadium...