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Colm
12 Feb 2007, 07:58 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6352847.stm
What do you reckon? I reckon it would be a good idea, we haven't had the world cup since 66 and we'd have some pretty good stadiums to use
Wembley (90,000)
Old Trafford (76,000)
New Anfield (61,000) (to be completed in 2009)
Emerites (60,000)
St James Park (52,000)
COMS (48,500)
Stadium of Light (48,300)
Villa Park (43,200)
Elland Road (40,000)
Tottenham, Everton, West Ham and Reading might even have much bigger stadiams by then.
though we would face tought competition from rivals bids like China, Australia, Canada, Spain and mabey even the USA.
dustcowpoke
12 Feb 2007, 08:21 PM
From my understanding it goes around so USA, China, and Australia couldn't make bids.
2010- Africa
2014- South America
2018- Europe
2022- North America
England would only compete with Spain or Italy as Germany has just hosted the Cup.
leg_breaker
13 Feb 2007, 01:20 AM
How many times do I keep reading this? The rotation system only goes to 2014.
ruud van semz
13 Feb 2007, 02:16 AM
asia is supposed to have it in '18 but theres that thing were every 2 is in europe so if it is in europe england would definetely get it.. theres no way italy would get by the way they are going at the moment.. and spain have 2 many stadiums in each city (only allowed to use 1 stadium from a city, although fifa could over rule that).
The only competition that I see for england would be China and Australia.. since it's asias turn if fifa decides to not go back to europe yet. but i dont see how we could have one in australia since we got jack shit rectangular stadiums. so i guess the WC is englands. maybe 2022 for us aussies
ruud van semz
13 Feb 2007, 02:20 AM
asia is supposed to have it in '18 but theres that thing were every 2 is in europe so if it is in europe england would definetely get it.. theres no way italy would get by the way they are going at the moment.. and spain have 2 many stadiums in each city (only allowed to use 1 stadium from a city, although fifa could over rule that).
The only competition that I see for england would be China and Australia.. since it's asias turn if fifa decides to not go back to europe yet. but i dont see how we could have one in australia since we got jack shit rectangular stadiums. so i guess the WC is englands. maybe 2022 for us aussies
and if fifa are looking to expand the game further like they did for us in 94 they could have one in australia and england can maybe get a euro championship then world cup in the 20's
Pazarius
13 Feb 2007, 02:58 AM
How many times do I keep reading this? The rotation system only goes to 2014.
So far, yes, but I don't think it's very likely that it will be dropped entirely. The question is how will the rotation proceed after that.
Fifa has hinted it might come back to Europe in 2018.
PsychedelicCeltic
13 Feb 2007, 04:11 AM
Who says Wembley will be done by 2018?
When Hell Unfreezes
13 Feb 2007, 07:50 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6352847.stm
What do you reckon? I reckon it would be a good idea, we haven't had the world cup since 66 and we'd have some pretty good stadiums to use
Wembley (90,000)
Old Trafford (76,000)
New Anfield (61,000) (to be completed in 2009)
Emerites (60,000)
St James Park (52,000)
COMS (48,500)
Stadium of Light (48,300)
Villa Park (43,200)
Elland Road (40,000)
Tottenham, Everton, West Ham and Reading might even have much bigger stadiams by then.
though we would face tought competition from rivals bids like China, Australia, Canada, Spain and mabey even the USA.
& Chelski and the Olympic stadium!
Dead Penguin
13 Feb 2007, 08:07 AM
& Chelski and the Olympic stadium!
Isn't there a limit to the number of Stadiums from one city that can be used in a World Cup?
England is well placed to host it though, but we probably do need to expand and do up a few venues, in different cities, although that s probably true of all prospective hosts.
ruud van semz
13 Feb 2007, 09:12 AM
Isn't there a limit to the number of Stadiums from one city that can be used in a World Cup?
England is well placed to host it though, but we probably do need to expand and do up a few venues, in different cities, although that s probably true of all prospective hosts.
1 per city
Colm
13 Feb 2007, 10:11 AM
1 per cityI thought it was 2? I could be wrong though.
three lions
13 Feb 2007, 11:48 AM
Fantastic!!!
Dwbakke
13 Feb 2007, 11:52 AM
I thought it was 2? I could be wrong though.
It's one per city but one city is allowed to have 2 (which is Joburg in 2010)
Dead Penguin
13 Feb 2007, 12:00 PM
I can't find any direct reference by Fifa to the number of stadiums per city, although on several forums I've seen it stated that a host is allowed one city to have two stadiums which host matches. If that is true then Manchester and Liverpool could only contribute one stadium each.
So four stadiums in four cities would need to be extended to over 40000 capacity. Sheffield is the most obvious city to add because Hillsborough only needs a few hundred seats to get to 40000, I'm not sure what the other three would be.
edit: I didn't see Dwbakke's comment before posting.
Dwbakke
13 Feb 2007, 12:06 PM
[QUOTE=Dead Penguin;10699221]
So four stadiums in four cities would need to be extended to over 40000 capacity. Sheffield is the most obvious city to add because Hillsborough only needs a few hundred seats to get to 40000, I'm not sure what the other three would be.QUOTE]
To try and spread it some geographically there will likely be one stadium on the south coast, so expect either Portsmouth or Southampton to expand and be a venue
Karloski
13 Feb 2007, 12:16 PM
Stadiums will not be a problem for us. There would be more than enough time to make any necessary changes.
A successful bid would more than likely depend on how impressive a showpiece the London Olympics is.
I wonder what kind of team we'll have in 11 years time, only Rooney and Walcott would probably have a chance of still being there.
three lions
13 Feb 2007, 12:19 PM
Stadiums will not be a problem for us. There would be more than enough time to make any necessary changes.
A successful bid would more than likely depend on how impressive a showpiece the London Olympics is.
I wonder what kind of team we'll have in 11 years time, only Rooney and Walcott would probably have a chance of still being there.
Micah Richards will be there..
Karloski
13 Feb 2007, 12:38 PM
Micah Richards will be there..
Yeah, Maybe. If his development continues to improve.
ruud van semz
13 Feb 2007, 12:46 PM
CoMS and OT would be the stadiums allowed in 1 city? and the others all with 1 stadium? goodison has over 40k doesnt it? they would use new anfield over that.. unless that new everton stadium that is being rumoured about is better than it. there will be plenty of stadiums.. and who knows maybe fifa might even get lenient on the 1 stadium per city thing
CoMS and OT would be the stadiums allowed in 1 city? and the others all with 1 stadium? goodison has over 40k doesnt it? they would use new anfield over that.. unless that new everton stadium that is being rumoured about is better than it. there will be plenty of stadiums.. and who knows maybe fifa might even get lenient on the 1 stadium per city thing
Where I think FIFA may be lenient is the two in one city rule. Doesn't make much sense when so much of the population is clustered in or around London. So I'm betting that we could see Wembley, Emirates and Twickenham (if they are allowed to use it) forming an '18 bid. Not convinced FIFA would be willing to allow two in another city so COMS may well miss out.
England is definitely in a good position for '18. Aside from Germany (obviously), the US and Japan, they probably have less work to do than any potential host. There are many stadia in the 30k+ category that are relatively new and probably could easily be extended to the 40k+ range. I'd like to see this rather than use Hillsborough or Elland Road, both of which really aren't anywhere near up to standard for a WC, imo.