El Salvador serious analysis... always the tactical problem!

[FenoFutbol]

We beat Belize 2-1 instead of 6-0 like we should!!

Not disrespect to my felow from our neighbor country but this is mostly for Salvadoran to discuss our business.

F.. tired of watching foreign coaches take our squad into the wrong direction. I though De Los Cobos was the perfect Coach, coming from a much more "modern" Mexican soccer, and former America star... we still have to deal with the same problem we have for the last decade.

We know we are not as tall as the Ticos or as strong as the Catrachos, and we keep playing diagonal balls into the area... we got lucky and Cheyo put one in.

What really pi... the f out of me is to waste all the talent we have.

Paleta is a great great striker, but we keep sending stupid long balls!!!

Murgas think he is Riquelme and keep playing those little touches with not sense!

We have players with sick sick moves and dominio de balon like Denis Alas on the bench!!!

Did you see El Pega Dubon??? he is sick sick nasty... anytime he got the ball it was a f.. pain for Belices defense, and thats our game... we're not 7' tall like the germans, we are not big and "toug" like Gravenson... we have to explote what we have... our street football. I really dont know why we keep trying to play "european" style running Pacheco and Anaya to the corners to send crosses so we can get a lucky header!!!

It was still a very good much, we look innocent in the back, Velazquez needs to work better with the young guys, that goal should never happen.

Juan Diaz look ok, but we know that when Campos is in good health, Diaz is going to the bench.

Idk know about that keeper man, after that goal he lost all my respect, he didnt even try to save it!

After el "superman" Garcia left and many other great keepers we had, it seens to me that our new keepers are keeping us out of the big game. Not even Gomez which I respect a lot is a the same level as Misael Alfaro, Guevara Mora, Menendez or Raul Garcia.

Well, I am mad, and I have a d.. good reason, its been long since our national team is not between the big boys of concacaf anymore, its about time to star training Magico Gonzalez so he can teach los cipotes how to kick some serious a.. on the field.

Ok, thats me man. All Salvadorans are welcome to participate on this serious thread.

Hoping to easily beat Nicaragua, and to play with WEBOS againts Guate that is going to be a good exam.

VEmos bichos.

"No nosotros robamos, rolamos y controlamos" MS*113:cool:

[R9Kevinr9]

Totally agree, Dennis Alas is a stunning player no use for him to be on the bench. Like i said " El Pega" Is ********ing pest and has the moves to take on just about anyone, this guy is amazing and has so much dribbling talent. Our game if you guys have not noticed is a give and go... our players can pass and go and bam in the net. I don't know why the ******** we keep trying to kick the ball from far out, were not that great at shooting from distance yet that's all we tried, or the damn long ball. It's ********ing commen sense. I don't know man, it's just so depressing we have the talent to ********ing be going to the WC every damn year.

[R9Kevinr9]

"Idk know about that keeper man, after that goal he lost all my respect, he didnt even try to save it!"


No, no, no.... that ball was gonna be a goal no matter what. The guy is a great talent.... were just lucky we have the GKs we have. The guy is a amazing player. If i'am right that was his only 2 cap.

[FenoFutbol]

"Idk know about that keeper man, after that goal he lost all my respect, he didnt even try to save it!"


No, no, no.... that ball was gonna be a goal no matter what. The guy is a great talent.... were just lucky we have the GKs we have. The guy is a amazing player. If i'am right that was his only 2 cap.


Well see what kind of keeper we have againts Guate, in fact well really see what we have againts los chapines. ES has a really young squad but a great future, although im expecting to beat guate and make a good run to te final bc we're hosting the tournament. I will be much happier if we can star shaping our style, and we give more quality passes to Paleta... did you see the diving header :eek: Paleta is got so much to offer...

We won though, ill take the win even if we didnt dominate as we should.

Well see how it goes againts Guatemala.

[LN - Dougg]

I agree with all points, nice analysis bros... Not much to add except that I too was frustrated with trying to play through the air... When we were driblling on the ground, OH MY GOD, Belize couldn't stop us... The other thing to mention, and it has to do with dribbling, but inside the box or just outside of it... Too much dribling, too much passing... Someone in addition to Quintanilla needed to take shots more often.

[R9Kevinr9]

Yeah the " Palomita" was sick........... Guatemala, should be a win for us...... Guatemala, did not look good at all.

[FenoFutbol]

:cool: I agree with all points, nice analysis bros... Not much to add except that I too was frustrated with trying to play through the air... When we were driblling on the ground, OH MY GOD, Belize couldn't stop us... The other thing to mention, and it has to do with dribbling, but inside the box or just outside of it... Too much dribling, too much passing... Someone in addition to Quintanilla needed to take shots more often.

Dribling can be bad when you dont know how to use it, if you have a coach that knows and understand how valuable dribbling can be on the field, and how to explote it with key players on key zones... thats when you the game to a whole different level.

As far as the keeper... man I wish you would seen Raul "El Superman" Garcia playing or Carlanga Rivera... real keepers out there.

Idk our NT used to be so strong, any of you guys remember people like Memo Rivera, Papa Castro Borja, Palacio Lozano, Latina Melendez??? Monster with the ball, and those dudes were strong as f... but the new generation of ES players arent fit enough for a real international level.

We are still hoping to reach the final on this tournament, we have always dominated Central America, and we are hosting the tournament, so I dont see how we are not going to make it.

Hoping that Paleta pick it up and show what he really has.

Cheyo has a left foot but he is to work more on it, in a tough game he is prob going to have 1 or 2 chances... and "almost" doesnt count, know what i mean?

Vamos a ver si para el proximo partido salimos con mas actitud salvatrucha,

"Los pocos pero locos, los que roban, rolan y controlan" :cool:

[el_cuscatleco]

El Salvador v Belize should have finished 4-0. But i dont blame tactical problems or De Los Cobos for our effort last night.

I was at the game and as always pur finishing let us down. Paleta had an aweful game. Juan Diaz was our better Striker last night.

"Paleta is a great great striker, but we keep sending stupid long balls!!!" Paleta got plenty of short passes but was just not playing well.

"Murgas think he is Riquelme and keep playing those little touches with not sense!

We have players with sick sick moves and dominio de balon like Denis Alas on the bench!!!"

If i had to choose between Murgas and Alas. I would go with Murgas. He´s a much better player. Alas is good but at the moment he´s not good enough to start on the field.

I´ll continue my thoughts later.

Gotta go watch Costa Rica v Honduras

[R9Kevinr9]

Yeah i would go with Murgas too, but i would sub in Alas like in the 70 minute. Theres no point for him to come in the last 20 secs!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[el_cuscatleco]

Continued analysis..........

I think "Pega" is a good player but he needs to work on his fitness. 70 mins into the match he is to tired to apply defensive pressure. I blame Belizes goal on him cause there was no one in the midfield to stop the play and it came in on his side.

"Juan Diaz look ok, but we know that when Campos is in good health, Diaz is going to the bench"

I dont know about Campos, he just seems to not care about giving it his all for the national side. Juan Diaz has shown that he gives 110% all the time. He should be continued to be given a chance, his attacking style of play blends well with our midfield. And he creates chances for himself and others.

"Idk know about that keeper man, after that goal he lost all my respect, he didnt even try to save it!"

Yeah, lost my respect too. Although you have to admit that even if he had tried to make the save the ball still would have gone in. It was going in from the time it came of the guys boot.

But yeah, i dont really like this keeper after this game. The moment in the first part of the second half when he diribbled the ball and past it straight to the Belize striker, was horrible. He´s lucky the sticker missed the chance.

But on his behalf, he did make when awesome save in the second half that kept it at 2-1.

Overall i think we played really well in the first 20 mins. But were just unable to put the ball in the net. The rest of the game was ok, until Belize scored. Once that ball went in we lost it and played horrible, IMO.

[R9Kevinr9]

You can't indentify a Gk by one goal, thats stupid ass hell..... well then if your going to do that then Jans Lehmann and van Der Saar, Kahn, Casillas, Buffon... all suck because they have made mistakes. As far as el Pega, you can't play the goal, on him that was everyones fault. Everyone tried to force Belize to calm down, and slow the game.... the defense misscommunicated. Theres no one in fault. And Meme is still a Great GK.

[el_cuscatleco]

You can't indentify a Gk by one goal, thats stupid ass hell..... well then if your going to do that then Jans Lehmann and van Der Saar, Kahn, Casillas, Buffon... all suck because they have made mistakes. As far as el Pega, you can't play the goal, on him that was everyones fault. Everyone tried to force Belize to calm down, and slow the game.... the defense misscommunicated. Theres no one in fault. And Meme is still a Great GK.

Its not the first time this keeper has done stupid mistakes that have nearly cost us the game.

Dont know if you saw the game against Denmark, but, in the first half when someone had a shot, and it landed in his hands, he controled it, and then out of nowhere dropped it and Denmark almost scored.

He tends to fumble and make wrong desicions. I´m not saying that because he let the goal in he is no good. Because if you read what i wrote you would see that i said that there was no chance he was gonna save the shot because it was just too good.

Meme is a good goal keeper, but he needs to relax and not get so worked up and make stupid mistakes. We´ll see how he goes today aginst Nicaragua. I wouldn´t be surprised to see him dropped for the game aginst Guate if he makes more costly errors.

As for Pega, the only reason i blame him more so than others is that he wasn´t there were he was ment to be because he was tierd and and in the midfield with his hands on his hips. His not fit enough. No doubt he is a great player but he needs to work on his fitness and be able to go all out for the 90 minutes. What good is it that he makes runs and sets up playes in the first half and then in the second just stands there and makes us look like where playing one man short.

Trust me, i´m not the only one that thinks this. Like i said, i´m in the country and have been reading the papers and going to the games and De Los Cobos has as much to say about Pega´s fitness as i do.

Admitedly goal wasn´t soley his fault, and i never said it was. It was our whole left side that let us down, it was miscommunication on everyones part.

[R9Kevinr9]

True, but all of our players could use a little more fitness. But, yea... Meme is still young and doesn't have much Experience.... thats why Carlos De los Cobos is starting him, so he can mature.

[R9Kevinr9]

El Salvador major problem is thinking they have the game settled win the only have 1 ********ing goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: Complete BS!

[LN - Dougg]

We got subs in earlier today, but I don't think it was early enough to make a difference. By the 60th minute, de los Cobos should be able to tell who is winded, and sub him out.

Our game is clearly ball control, but once the players get tired we start to see the sloppy passes, losing control of the ball and the long passes without a target..

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Looking at the game on Monday, is it meaningless? Both have made it to the next round, do de los Cobos rest players and prepare for the quarterfinals or does he go all out and try to win the 9 points?

Personally, I would go all out, leave the starters in there so they continue to get better, because even thought we have won both games: No convensemos... Simplemente no convensemos...

[R9Kevinr9]

I would expirement a tad, but that's all. I would put in, Chepe Martinez for Juan Alberto Diaz.... this kid is good but gets extremely winded by the 60th min. Chepe has good experience, and is pretty good. Paleta, is just begging for a goal. Omg, he will get like 2 or 3 goals when this tournament is over.:)

[FenoFutbol]

I would expirement a tad, but that's all. I would put in, Chepe Martinez for Juan Alberto Diaz.... this kid is good but gets extremely winded by the 60th min. Chepe has good experience, and is pretty good. Paleta, is just begging for a goal. Omg, he will get like 2 or 3 goals when this tournament is over.:)

Cheyo is out for this game due to yellow cards. Its all about Paleta and Merino now, I cant believe De Los Cobos left Campos out... BIG MISTAKE!

[R9Kevinr9]

I'am not really worried about Cheyo being out, cause cheyo.....tends to annoy me down the line...... but who is starting for him now?

[LN - Dougg]

Want some serious Analysis? Vs. CR and no Cheyo? Ya comimos ************!!!! :D

I think we will see some shifting around and either Avalos or Alas will get the start.


Aguante Pulgarcito!!!

[benitoelwerito]

Want some serious Analysis? Vs. CR and no Cheyo? Ya comimos ************!!!! :D

I think we will see some shifting around and either Avalos or Alas will get the start.


Aguante Pulgarcito!!!

I'm down with the idea of Alas joining Merino on the other side, but man, don't you think he's a bit slow. Perhaps I will be proven wrong, though he is a great player, maybe he'll step up to the challenge.
Here's hoping that our team won't fall apart for the leader not being there. We need the leader up front though we have Victor in the back.
I don't know. I saw CR play, and I think this is gonna be a good game. I expect CR to wait for the counter with some speed players, cus everyone knows that's ES's weakness...that's what Guate tried to do, but they didn't have enough speed.