Serbia/Montenegro Coefficients for WC2010 qualifying draw

[sicnarf]

I was wondering if anyone knew what coefficients (if any) the now separate nations of Serbia and Montenegro will be given for the draw for WC2010 qualifiers.

I imagine there's a precedent for this when the former Yugoslavia divided
up into several nations, but I haven't been able to find out what was done about draws.

It seems that Serbia as a separate nation has taken Serbia&Montenegro's results, at least from the point of view of working out coefficients for qualifiers (by this I mean that Serbia&Montenegro were actually in the Euro 2008 quals draw, but Serbia just took their place for the competition without redoing the draw, so that implies they've just been givn the same coefficients as Serbia&Montenegro had)

So, if we work out coefficients for the WC2010 qualifying draw for Serbia:

( Points for Serbia in Euro2008 quals
plus
Points for Serbia&Montenegro in WC2006 quals )
divided by
Total number of games played in both sets of qualifiers

So if euro2008 qualifying finished today, Serbia would have:
( 10pts + 22pts ) / ( 4 games + 10 games ) = 2.286

Which (today) would mean Serbia would be seeded top or in the second pot at worst.

Whereas Montenegro, if they have a clean record, would be ranked bottom as they're not competing at all in Euro2008, and didn't compete in WC2006 quals as a separate nation.

So they would be in the same pot as the likes of San Marino, Luxembourg and Liechtenstein, and that doesn't seem that fair...

It occurs to me that the fairer thing to do would be to allow both of them to use Serbia&Montenegro's record from WC2006 quals.

So therefore Montenegro would have:
(0 + 22) / (0 + 10) = 2.2
Giving them a good chance of being seeded in the second/third pot.

Thoughts?

[Forza AZ]

The Serbian FA is officially the succesor of the former Serbia-Montenegro FA (also took their place within UEFA and FIFA), so they will just take their results and coefficient.
The Montenegran FA is a new member of FIFA and so will start from zero.

I imagine there's a precedent for this when the former Yugoslavia divided
up into several nations, but I haven't been able to find out what was done about draws.

There is no precedent in this case, as Yugoslavia was banned for WC 1994 and Euro 1996 qualifying, so in the first time they participated again in the WC 1998 qualifying their coefficient was 0,000 any way, because they didn't play in the previous 2 qualifying campaigns.

[sicnarf]

The Montenegran FA is a new member of FIFA and so will start from zero.

So that means they'll be up against some tough teams in the draw I guess, it'll be interesting to see if they can qualify...

[toulousain]

Which level can we expect from the Montenegran team ? Like Croatia or Serbia ? Or more like Bosnia or Albania ?

Who are going to be the Montenegran star players ?

[Forza AZ]

Which level can we expect from the Montenegran team ? Like Croatia or Serbia ? Or more like Bosnia or Albania ?

Who are going to be the Montenegran star players ?
I believe in the World Cup squad of S-M, there were only 1 or 2 players from Montenegro. I don't expect them to qualify for the finals of a tournament in the near future. They should be better than teams at the bottom of the rankings (Luxembourg, San Marino, Kazakhstan etc.), but I don't think they really can compete in a qualifying group.

[9_kezman]

Kezman Kezman Mateja Kezman!!!!!!

[ToonUSA]

Kezman Kezman Mateja Kezman!!!!!!

He's not playing for Montenegro.

For the thread starter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegro_football

the Montenegro FA was granted full membership of UEFA, and will compete in its first friendly match against Hungary on March 24th, 2007 at Stadion Pod Goricom in Podgorica.