Overrated

[Paul_NL]

Everybody knows them, players who many like but actually suck.

Marcelo Salas
Danny Mills
Patrick Kluivert
Alvaro Recoba
Raul Gonzalez Blanco
Clarence Seedorf
Pipo Inzaghi
Simone Inzaghi
Francesco Totti
Edu (Arsenal)
Pascal Cygan
Michael Owen
Joe Cole
El Hadji Diouf
Youri Djorkaeff
Erik Edman
Barry Ferguson
Jesper Gronkjaer
Thomas Helveg
Emile Heskey
Francis Jeffers
Ivan Kaviedes
Phil Neville
Dennis Rommedahl
Alan Smith
Keri Tugay
Mark Viduka
Timothee Atouba
Mista
Bernardo Corradi
Dado Prso
Walter Samuel
Ballesteros
Jerome Brechet
Lee Chun Soo
Roque
Rafael van der Vaart
German Lux
Luciano Figeroa
Victor Zapata
Andres D´Allesandro
Ariel Ortega
Martin Palermo
Mariano Pavone
Javier Masscherano
Johan Vogel
John Heitinga
Gabri
Roger
Mauro Rosales
Danko Lazovic
Thomas Gravesen
Freddy Ljungburg
Ray Parlour
Soll Cambell
Kun Aguero
Maarten Steekelenburg
Harald Wapenaar
Patrick Paauwe
Leonardo (Ajax)
Leonardo Ponzio
Lionel Scaloni
Andy van der Meyde
Nikos Machlas
Edgar Davids
Michael Reiziger
Ludovic Giuly
Daniel de Ridder
Mateja Kezman
Reyes
Clemente Rodiguez
Juan Krupoviesa
Diego Forlan
Ryan Babel
Anthony Lurling
Michael Dingsdag
Landon Donavan
Theo Janssen
Romano Denneboom
Edgar Baretto
Andrei Niedzielan


Go Shoot!!!!!!!!!!

[ForeverRed]

You're wrong about the following:

Totti, Babel, Giuly, Davids, Campbell, Van de Vaart, Prso, Smith, Viduka, Phil Neville, Djorkaef, Heskey, Cole, Owen, Diouf (to a certain extent), Seedorf

Hell, you're wrong about a lot of players......

[astabooty]

what a BAD list =/

[RichardL]

what a BAD list =/although saying that, it does make you wonder if the literally thousands of commentators around the world who insist Danny Mills and Francis Jeffers are world class know what they are talking about.

[condor11]

everyone is overrated in some way or another

[superfrantheman]

marcelo salas?
diouf?
recoba?
seedorf?
davids?
van deer vart?
pavone?

are you nuts????????????????? so is lucho gonzalez , dida or bekcham better than the,?

[dor02]

Paul_NL, which 20 or 30 current players do you actually consider to be getting the right praise and what would your take on the greatest players ever be like?

[Excape Goat]

Patrick Kluivert: he just lost his form.
Raul Gonzalez Blanco: he just lost his form.
Clarence Seedorf: Not really
Pipo Inzaghi: Not really.
Simone Inzaghi: Achieved what people expected of him. Nothing more or less.
Francesco Totti: Not really.
Michael Owen: Perhaps.
Joe Cole: Achieved what people expected of him. Nothing more or less.
El Hadji Diouf: Agreed.
Youri Djorkaeff: Actually underrated.
Emile Heskey: Agreed.
Francis Jeffers: Agreed.
Phil Neville: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him.
Alan Smith: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him.
Keri Tugay: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him.
Mista: Underated. He did not ever even get his chance internationally.
Walter Samuel: Agreed.
German Lux: He was not rated highly to begin with
Luciano Figeroa: Agreed.
Andres D´Allesandro: Agreed.
Ariel Ortega: Failed to live up to expectation.
Martin Palermo: Agreed.
Javier Masscherano: wait and see.
Mauro Rosales: Agreed.
Thomas Gravesen: He was not rated highly to begin with.
Freddy Ljungburg: Achieved what people expected of him.
Soll Cambell: He is great.
Kun Aguero: Let's see.
Edgar Davids: He just lost his form due to age.
Michael Reiziger: Agreed.
Mateja Kezman: Agreed.
Diego Forlan: He was not rated highly to begin with> he had one good season.
Landon Donavan: He just got no heart, but plenty of talents.

[Paul_NL]

Patrick Kluivert: he just lost his form. 5 seasons? He is the posterboy about someone who does not live for his sport
Raul Gonzalez Blanco: he just lost his form. Just the last 3 seasons not
Clarence Seedorf: Not really He is the posterboy of a overrated player
Pipo Inzaghi: Not really. He can´t play
Simone Inzaghi: Achieved what people expected of him. Nothing more or less. See Pipo
Francesco Totti: Not really. He is overrated especially if he wants to be the star
Michael Owen: Perhaps.
Joe Cole: Achieved what people expected of him. Nothing more or less. Still he should play in let´s say West Ham
El Hadji Diouf: Agreed.
Youri Djorkaeff: Actually underrated. Really not that good
Emile Heskey: Agreed.
Francis Jeffers: Agreed.
Phil Neville: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him.No way he had ever a level to play with MU
Alan Smith: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him. At Leeds he was seen as the new saviour. He really is not good
Keri Tugay: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him. He can´t play
Mista: Underated. He did not ever even get his chance internationally. Why do you think?
Walter Samuel: Agreed.
German Lux: He was not rated highly to begin with Must be the worst GK ever
Luciano Figeroa: Agreed.
Andres D´Allesandro: Agreed.
Ariel Ortega: Failed to live up to expectation.
Martin Palermo: Agreed.
Javier Masscherano: wait and see. I think he sucks, I never like a player with zero passes forward. Blew his chance at West Ham
Mauro Rosales: Agreed.
Thomas Gravesen: He was not rated highly to begin with. Transfer to Real
Freddy Ljungburg: Achieved what people expected of him. Still he can´t play
Soll Cambell: He is great. He can´t mark
Kun Aguero: Let's see. He really is not his good as people think. He is the new Ortega
Edgar Davids: He just lost his form due to age. He only played good behind Ronaldinho and Zidane and he really sucks now
Michael Reiziger: Agreed.
Mateja Kezman: Agreed.
Diego Forlan: He was not rated highly to begin with> he had one good season. Transfer to MU
Landon Donavan: He just got no heart, but plenty of talents.

Paul

[Paul_NL]

You're wrong about the following:

Totti, Babel, Giuly, Davids, Campbell, Van de Vaart, Prso, Smith, Viduka, Phil Neville, Djorkaef, Heskey, Cole, Owen, Diouf (to a certain extent), Seedorf

Hell, you're wrong about a lot of players......

Babel is one dimensional and bad at it. Van der Vaart is always injured and besides 2 seasons he mainly sucks. Prso, Heskey, Cole, Viduka, don´t make me laugh. Giuly never regained his Monaco form and basically is the dissapointment of the last 2 seasons at Barca

[Paul_NL]

Paul_NL, which 20 or 30 current players do you actually consider to be getting the right praise and what would your take on the greatest players ever be like?

Good Players

Gaby Milito
Alexis
Ricardo Bovio
Simons
Cocu
Alex
Gomes
Asley Cole
Frank Lampard
John Terry
Valencia
Jefferson Farfan
Stijn Schaars
Mauro Zaraté
Fernando Gago
Fernando Belluschi
Rodrigo Palacio
Andrea Pirlo
Xavi
Gilberto Silva
Michael Carrick
Sydney Gouvou
Eric Abidal
Lucas
Marcelo

[Excape Goat]

Paul



Patrick Kluivert: He was good when he was younger. Yes, he lost interests of the game, but he was not that bad.
Raul Gonzalez Blanco: He was damn good three years ago.
Pipo Inzaghi: He scored plenty of goals.
Simone Inzaghi: He was not rated. He only got a famous brother, but no one expected much of him. He pretty much did not do much so he was not overrated.
Joe Cole: Yep, he should be playing for a lesser club.
Keri Tugay: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him. He can´t play. Yes, he can't play, but I did not expect himto do much. So he is not overrated.
Mista: Underated. He did not ever even get his chance internationally. Why do you think? Because t he is underrated.
Thomas Gravesen: Transfer to Real
Freddy Ljungburg: Achieved what people expected of him. Still he can´t play That does not meant he is overrated.

[Paul_NL]

Patrick Kluivert: He was good when he was younger. Yes, he lost interests of the game, but he was not that bad. He never archived his potential
Raul Gonzalez Blanco: He was damn good three years ago. He was never damn good
Pipo Inzaghi: He scored plenty of goals. So did Viduka, Prso, Palermo, Pavone
Simone Inzaghi: He was not rated. He only got a famous brother, but no one expected much of him. He pretty much did not do much so he was not overrated. He sucks, they should not end up at Lazio
Joe Cole: Yep, he should be playing for a lesser club.
Keri Tugay: He was not rated highly to begin with. Achieved what people expected of him. He can´t play. Yes, he can't play, but I did not expect himto do much. Still he ended where he shouldn´t
Mista: Underated. He did not ever even get his chance internationally. Why do you think? Because he sucks
Thomas Gravesen: Transfer to Real point begin?
Freddy Ljungburg: Achieved what people expected of him. Still he can´t play Players who can´t play should not play 8 seasons for Arse. See Ray Parlour

Paul

[ilovefotball]

Javier Masscherano: wait and see. I think he sucks, I never like a player with zero passes forward. Blew his chance at West Ham


So, a player you don't like is over-rated,huh? He didn't blew his chance at WestHam. do some research before thrashing players.

Particularly your comment on Mascherano and Aguero is very childish. Mascherano is highly rated DM, and hasn't even got a chance to show his potential whereas Aguero is in his first season in Spain. You can't judge any players ability by seeing him play for couple of matches, give them time and we will see.

beside,there are many players on that list who shouldn't evere feature on this sort of posts.

[Paul_NL]

So, a player you don't like is over-rated,huh?

Offcourse. I wouldn´t think he is overrated would I?

He didn't blew his chance at WestHam. do some research before thrashing players.

Right, he sucked to much to even get a chance

Particularly your comment on Mascherano and Aguero is very childish. Mascherano is highly rated DM, and hasn't even got a chance to show his potential whereas Aguero is in his first season in Spain. You can't judge any players ability by seeing him play for couple of matches, give them time and we will see.

I don´t care if he is highly rated, that´s why he is overrated. Aguero is the new Ortega. Wait and you will see

beside,there are many players on that list who shouldn't evere feature on this sort of posts.

Like?



Paul

[ForeverRed]

Babel is one dimensional and bad at it. Van der Vaart is always injured and besides 2 seasons he mainly sucks. Prso, Heskey, Cole, Viduka, don´t make me laugh. Giuly never regained his Monaco form and basically is the dissapointment of the last 2 seasons at Barca

Babel is still young, why don't you wait a little before you cast judgement on him? Might as well call all young players overrated by your standard.

And how does injury make a player overrated? Think again.

So because a player never replicated his form with his previous team he becomes overrated? Hmm...ok then how bout Ronaldo and numerous other players? Don't make ME laugh and why don't you list some facts to back you up for a change?

[Paul_NL]

Babel is still young, why don't you wait a little before you cast judgement on him?

I have seen enough to see that he sucks. His only hopes that he finally gets a good coach who learns him to be more versatile. Like Wenger

Might as well call all young players overrated by your standard.

Learn to read

And how does injury make a player overrated? Think again.

He can´t handle pro soccer

So because a player never replicated his form with his previous team he becomes overrated? Hmm...ok then how bout Ronaldo and numerous other players? Don't make ME laugh and why don't you list some facts to back you up for a change?

Ronaldo for 98 was the best player in the world and after that he was overrated



Paul

[ForeverRed]

Babel is still young, why don't you wait a little before you cast judgement on him?

I have seen enough to see that he sucks. His only hopes that he finally gets a good coach who learns him to be more versatile. Like Wenger

Might as well call all young players overrated by your standard.

Learn to read

And how does injury make a player overrated? Think again.

He can´t handle pro soccer

So because a player never replicated his form with his previous team he becomes overrated? Hmm...ok then how bout Ronaldo and numerous other players? Don't make ME laugh and why don't you list some facts to back you up for a change?

Ronaldo for 98 was the best player in the world and after that he was overrated



Paul

Oh you've seen enough, I guess you are the be all end all of judging players.

And you can stop with that whole injury prone players being overrated crap, it can happen to any player...has nothing to do with being able to handle pro soccer or not.

[Paul_NL]

Oh you've seen enough, I guess you are the be all end all of judging players.

And you can stop with that whole injury prone players being overrated crap, it can happen to any player...has nothing to do with being able to handle pro soccer or not.

No those players I see atleast 10-15 times a season play some a lot more though.

Van der Vaart´s body can´t handle pro soccer at the highest level. End of story.

[Paul_NL]

Wanne bet Kun does nothing worthwhile against Valencia?