Torneo Apertura 2007 Thread

[superfrantheman]

Since we lost with CF AMERICA 6-2 global score

now we would play CHURRETONES FC, are we ready yet?

[ROMERO879]

Like you would say fran,

"Of course we are ready."

[superfrantheman]

so this is my team

---------vegas--------
--prado--rebosio--soria
--soto------------ismodes
-------loba--cominges--
----chara-------orejuela

[ROMERO879]

Suicide.

Fassi should start.
http://www.peru.com/futbol/AutoNoticias/FutbolFotos/2007/01/31/ImagenNoticia110687.jpg

[superfrantheman]

i want fassi too, but i dont want to play with 3 centerbacks

only 2 SC has the right palyers for a 4-4-2 system or 4-3-1-2 with cominges as enganche

[ROMERO879]

Yeah ok, not going to happen. ;)

It's 12 30 here. Good night fran. Debate with cacho, if he's still here. :D

[superfrantheman]

no thanks ill go too, i have to do some homework, and takea shower, forgot we are out of libertadores, and no talikng with cacho cachado de los cachos

[AL#7]

thoughts after the america - cristal thread....

didnt see the match, according to media and radio

the good : _Fassi seems to be a decent back which can hold to a first team place, therefore not being an useless reinforcement,
_Villalta has good offensive skills and a worry to the other team when cristal has corners,
_Cominges still has the ability which he is sure to explote in the apertura, _Chara's speed could be an useful weapon to sampaoli.
_Ismodes continues to show good form and possible future gold-mine for cristal
_Orejuela apparently played well both legs, something i did not expect, same for Loba
_it could be interesting how garcia develops his futbol if given minutes instead of Bonnet
_cristal attacking football, which gurantees good football, and with more practice of 3-5-2 the spaces will be less visible

the bad: _the image of peruvian football in international context
_Delgado continues to prove he will be crap in 2007, his sub is also bad
_Villalta is very irregular, particularly when defending (most important duty), _Alvarez and Prado also irregular
_Rebosio seemed lack of football practice
_Mendoza and Hernandez have proved that they should not be in the starting lineup
_Bonnet is too old to be in the starting eleven.
_Cominges breaks easily proved again

not excuses, but also have in mind
_Cristal lack of football practice as a team, only 2 matches with San Martin and pretemporada just over and in contrast the interliga of Mexico(think 4 matches) and their league which has already started 2 weeks ago(2 more matches)
_absence of Soto(captain) in both legs, Torres(only 45 minutes), inability to play Ismodes due to fatigue of Sudamericano in the first leg, Cominges injury which deprived him of second leg, all key players
_many of the players just know each other and never played together before, in contrast to my understanding of the squad of America which is pretty much te same as last year.
_year just started, plenty of time to improve
_hopefully juvenal and Pelusso have an idea of how mexican teams play in attack and defense

[condor11]

so this is my team

---------vegas--------
--prado--rebosio--soria
--soto------------ismodes
-------loba--cominges--
----chara-------orejuela

I would go with

--------------Delgado
-----Fassi----Rebosio----Villalta
--Prado------Torres---------myself
-------Soto-----------Ismodes
-------------Cominges
--------Garcia/Chara/Orejuela

[Guti™]

I would go with

--------------Delgado
-----Fassi----Rebosio----Villalta
--Prado------Torres---------myself
-------Soto-----------Ismodes
-------------Cominges
--------Garcia/Chara/Orejuela

LMAO

[ROMERO879]

Last night, we didnt play with a LB, Hernandez stayed on the bench the whole night, and we did better than before. Only person I want on that spot is David Soria.

[ROMERO879]

thoughts after the america - cristal thread....

didnt see the match, according to media and radio

the good : _Fassi seems to be a decent back which can hold to a first team place, therefore not being an useless reinforcement,
_Villalta has good offensive skills and a worry to the other team when cristal has corners,
_Cominges still has the ability which he is sure to explote in the apertura, _Chara's speed could be an useful weapon to sampaoli.
_Ismodes continues to show good form and possible future gold-mine for cristal
_Orejuela apparently played well both legs, something i did not expect, same for Loba
_it could be interesting how garcia develops his futbol if given minutes instead of Bonnet
_cristal attacking football, which gurantees good football, and with more practice of 3-5-2 the spaces will be less visible

the bad: _the image of peruvian football in international context
_Delgado continues to prove he will be crap in 2007, his sub is also bad
_Villalta is very irregular, particularly when defending (most important duty), _Alvarez and Prado also irregular
_Rebosio seemed lack of football practice
_Mendoza and Hernandez have proved that they should not be in the starting lineup
_Bonnet is too old to be in the starting eleven.
_Cominges breaks easily proved again

not excuses, but also have in mind
_Cristal lack of football practice as a team, only 2 matches with San Martin and pretemporada just over and in contrast the interliga of Mexico(think 4 matches) and their league which has already started 2 weeks ago(2 more matches)
_absence of Soto(captain) in both legs, Torres(only 45 minutes), inability to play Ismodes due to fatigue of Sudamericano in the first leg, Cominges injury which deprived him of second leg, all key players
_many of the players just know each other and never played together before, in contrast to my understanding of the squad of America which is pretty much te same as last year.
_year just started, plenty of time to improve
_hopefully juvenal and Pelusso have an idea of how mexican teams play in attack and defense
Soto played last night too, when he and Rainer came on, the goals and chances came.
Pretty good list.

[condor11]

Last night, we didnt play with a LB, Hernandez stayed on the bench the whole night, and we did better than before. Only person I want on that spot is David Soria.

so who played on the left?

i thought we used a 3-5-2

[condor11]

Soto played last night too, when he and Rainer came on, the goals and chances came.
Pretty good list.


if we can get Soto, Rayner, Juanchi, Damian and Calavera on the pitch at the same time we have a good chance of taking the aperura

we just gotta sort out the defensive end

[ROMERO879]

so who played on the left?

i thought we used a 3-5-2
---Villalta---Fassi---Rebosio-----

The rest moved around and defended when necessary.
Like Ismodes and Lobaton always came back to defend.
Ismodes played on the left and so he came back.

[condor11]

---Villalta---Fassi---Rebosio-----

The rest moved around and defended when necessary.
Like Ismodes and Lobaton always came back to defend.
Ismodes played on the left and so he came back.

oh ok

that could be an interesting midfield

Prado------------Rayner-------Ismodes
--------Soto------------Cominges

full attack...just gotta hope the back 3 sort themselves out

so in a full strenght team..it looks like Alvarez is bench bound?

[ROMERO879]

Well, him or Rebosio, I think Sampaoli needs to choose between them 2.
Villalta and Fassi were good.

Now with Rainer back, Mendoza can stay on the bench, I hope. Sampaoli already relegated Pinza's ass to the bench.

[superfrantheman]

i got to watych the game, and i saw this,


fassi as a kind of left bakc, not running so much but staying in that position

i think we need to try a cominges-lobaton enganche dupla

[superfrantheman]

and about alvarez, prado,and soto, i would like to see a rotation between those three players

[MetroChile]

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Acento peruano en Viña

Técnico de Everton también dijo que otra de las alternativas para el mediocampo es Juan Cominges.

Preparar el partido del domingo contra Audax Italiano no ha sido la única tarea que ha debido resolver Juvenal Olmos. En los últimos días el técnico de Everton ha sondeado a varios candidatos para ocupar el puesto vacante de mediocampista creativo. Y el trabajo no ha sido sencillo.

Sin embargo, hay varios prospectos que le han ofrecido al estratega y los más llamativos son los peruanos Roberto Palacios y Juan Elías Cominges, ambos con pasos por la selección de la banda sangre.

"Nos hablaron del 'Chorrillano' Palacios y sería muy bueno contar con un jugador así, pero parece que hay algunos problemas que resolver antes", cuenta Olmos.

A lo que se refiere el entrenador es a la suspensión FIFA que recae sobre el mediocampista de 34 años debido a los violentos incidentes que protagonizó en su último club, Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito, en un clásico contra Barcelona de Guayaquil.

"Según su representante ese es un inconveniente que se puede solucionar, pero prefiero ser incrédulo ante esas cosas", agrega Juvenal. Lo cierto es que en Perú aseguran que Palacios podría llegar al Sporting Cristal, ya que el castigo por un año sólo le impediría jugar en el fútbol ecuatoriano.

EL OTRO CANDIDATO

Respecto de la posibilidad de contar con Cominges, Olmos comenta que "en su actual club firmó contrato por seis meses y para salir tendríamos que cancelar 200 mil dólares... lo otro sería esperarlo hasta junio, cuando queda libre, esas son cosas que tenemos que analizar con bastante calma, porque él es un jugador que incluso traté de llevar cuando dirigía a Newell's, antes de que fichara en Colón".

El espigado volante jugó en Argentina en Colón de Santa Fe y Estudiantes de La Plata, pero a comienzos del 2007 llegó para reforzar al Sporting Cristal en la Pre-Libertadores, que los celestes perdieron contra el América de México.

"No tengo problemas en esperar hasta mitad de año", admite el técnico oro y cielo, "lo que pasa es que no queremos equivocarnos o contar con alguien al que tendríamos que esperar para que se pusiera a punto".

Aunque no se desespera, el DT sabe que el tiempo del que dispone para resolver el puzzle no es mucho, ya que en la quinta fecha tienen que enfrentar a Universidad Católica, posiblemente en un partido que será pactado para el día viernes. "Eso significaría que tendremos hasta el próximo jueves a las 19 horas para fichar al refuerzo, antes del cierre del libro de pases", analizó el estratega viñamarino.

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Metro