Relegation in the MLS...!!!

[usscouse]

So, I know it will never happen but what if the last two teams in the MLS got relegated to A league. And the top two teams in AL went ‘up’ to MLS.
There might be something to fight for near the end of the season. You wouldn’t get the same teams year after year.
The sad sacks of MLS would really have to play harder rather than just say “Oh well we’ll just play out the season and do better next year”
Now we’ll have “If we don’t do better these last few games then ‘Vancouver’ will be here in our place.”…….:O

[Auriaprottu]

Promotion/relegation makes sense, and so does awarding the league championship to the team with the most regular season points. Keep the MLS Cup, but as a separate tourney with nothing to do with the league title. Minor issues, but there's always room for improvement. Why in the world did MLS want the league championship decided by a tournament anyhow? I've always felt that soccer is a sport that can decide its champion thru the regular season, regardless of how anyone else did it.

[Alan S]

Originally posted by Auriaprottu
...Why in the world did MLS want the league championship decided by a tournament anyhow? I've always felt that soccer is a sport that can decide its champion thru the regular season, regardless of how anyone else did it.

Because in America attendance will always rise during the playoffs, and people like to see a head-to-head competition to determine which team is best. I like it that way, and hope it stays.

I would like to see three trophies, in order of importance.

#1) MLS Cup (winning the MLS play-offs)
#2) Suppoters Shield (most points during the regular season)
#3) Open Cup (winning a competition of all pro & amature teams in US from all leauges).

Winning all three would be rare, but considered like having a perfect season in (American NFL) football. (I think in only happened once.) It would also make for great debates on the rivalry boards, and on sports talk shows.

[Dan Loney]

A lot of people ignore the thematic parallels between Jean-Paul Sartre's "No Exit" and "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" In both, there exists a hellish love triangle, between a calculating lesbian, a manipulative bisexual, and a shallow, pretentious man - all slaves to their own empty lusts.

But in "Scooby Doo," the awfulness of the existentialist world-view is thrown into even sharper relief. Rather than trapped inside a room, the protagonists in "Scooby Doo" are condemned to travel a world populated alternatively by gullible, sallow lumpenproletarians and the cynical plotters whose schemes lack even the banality of naked evil.

Even the addition of the characters of Shaggy and the eponymous protagonists do not alleviate the cul-de-sac of meaningless existence. The message that Shaggy represents is that he, the only truly happy character of either work, has thrown himself into gross sensual pleasures of gluttony to find contentment. Human contact fulfills none of his spiritual or intellectual desires, and to find true friendship, he must rely on a large, inarticulate dog - given a small vocabulary through the theatrical conventions of the form, an early instance of magical realism.

But Shaggy and Scooby's Falstaffian bumbling and cowardice do not mask their transcendent fear of the world, and nothing in their experience suggests that anyone would be wise to consider any alternative course. For Sartre, hell is other people. But for those in "Scooby Doo, Where Are You," hell is all around us.

[Alan S]

Originally posted by Dan Loney
A lot of people ignore the thematic parallels between Jean-Paul Sartre's "No Exit" and "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?"

Only someone from LA could percieve the hidden philosophical meaning to Scooby Doo.

What I want to know is:

The deeper meaning behind Willie Coyote & The Roadrunner based on Schopenhauer's (pain and suffering are unavoidable) philosophical viewpoint.

[flanoverseas]

Originally posted by Dan Loney
A lot of people ignore the thematic parallels between Jean-Paul Sartre's "No Exit" and "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" In both, there exists a hellish love triangle, between a calculating lesbian, a manipulative bisexual, and a shallow, pretentious man - all slaves to their own empty lusts.

But in "Scooby Doo," the awfulness of the existentialist world-view is thrown into even sharper relief. Rather than trapped inside a room, the protagonists in "Scooby Doo" are condemned to travel a world populated alternatively by gullible, sallow lumpenproletarians and the cynical plotters whose schemes lack even the banality of naked evil.

Even the addition of the characters of Shaggy and the eponymous protagonists do not alleviate the cul-de-sac of meaningless existence. The message that Shaggy represents is that he, the only truly happy character of either work, has thrown himself into gross sensual pleasures of gluttony to find contentment. Human contact fulfills none of his spiritual or intellectual desires, and to find true friendship, he must rely on a large, inarticulate dog - given a small vocabulary through the theatrical conventions of the form, an early instance of magical realism.

But Shaggy and Scooby's Falstaffian bumbling and cowardice do not mask their transcendent fear of the world, and nothing in their experience suggests that anyone would be wise to consider any alternative course. For Sartre, hell is other people. But for those in "Scooby Doo, Where Are You," hell is all around us. first of all it's called Scooby Doo

Secondly, a lot of people ignore it because it doesn't exist. There is no manipulative bisexual, Fred never showed any gay tendencies and Thelma was just ugly-not a lesbian.

Lastly, if you ever really watched the show, you would know that Scooby and Shaggy were never cowards. Seeing them trick a ghost/monster into getting a haircut was most certainly brave, running away was only acting on their fight or flight mechanism-hardly acts of spinelessness.

[Auriaprottu]

Originally posted by Alan S


Because in America attendance will always rise during the playoffs, and people like to see a head-to-head competition to determine which team is best. I like it that way, and hope it stays.



I see where you're coming from, but I'm worried about further erosion of the game here due to placating well-meaning but uneducated (soccerwise) fans. This is how that joke of a penalty shootout from the early MLS days came to be.

[Maczebus]

A worthy topic, but why is this still in the World Rivalries forum?

[usscouse]

Originally posted by Dan Loney
A lot of people ignore the thematic parallels between Jean-Paul Sartre's "No Exit" and "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" In both, there exists a hellish love triangle, between a calculating lesbian, a manipulative bisexual, and a shallow, pretentious man - all slaves to their own empty lusts.

But in "Scooby Doo," the awfulness of the existentialist world-view is thrown into even sharper relief. Rather than trapped inside a room, the protagonists in "Scooby Doo" are condemned to travel a world populated alternatively by gullible, sallow lumpenproletarians and the cynical plotters whose schemes lack even the banality of naked evil.

Even the addition of the characters of Shaggy and the eponymous protagonists do not alleviate the cul-de-sac of meaningless existence. The message that Shaggy represents is that he, the only truly happy character of either work, has thrown himself into gross sensual pleasures of gluttony to find contentment. Human contact fulfills none of his spiritual or intellectual desires, and to find true friendship, he must rely on a large, inarticulate dog - given a small vocabulary through the theatrical conventions of the form, an early instance of magical realism.

But Shaggy and Scooby's Falstaffian bumbling and cowardice do not mask their transcendent fear of the world, and nothing in their experience suggests that anyone would be wise to consider any alternative course. For Sartre, hell is other people. But for those in "Scooby Doo, Where Are You," hell is all around us.
Dan LOOney you are amazing..! I didn’t think it possible in BigSoccer that somebody could post their TOTAL football knowledge in ONE POST….
WELL DONE……!!!


You are who you pretend to be.
Kurt Vonegut Jnr.

[usscouse]

Originally posted by maczebus
A worthy topic, but why is this still in the World Rivalries forum?
Thank's, my mistake. And I let the children in....
Oh well...!

[Dan Loney]

Originally posted by usscouse
Am I God's original tool, or what?If you can't spell my name, pinhead, at least spell Vonnegut's correctly.

[SoFla Metro]

Originally posted by maczebus
A useless topic that's already been run into the ground, why is this still being brought up? Fixed your post

[chaski]

Originally posted by maczebus
A worthy topic, but why is this still in the World Rivalries forum? So Europeans can smack on MLS for not having relegation like a "real" football league.

[Various Styles]

Fred never showed any gay tendencies and Thelma was just ugly-not a lesbian.

Fred's Choice of Clothing is enough to know he was a fruitcake, no self respecting man wears a Scarf tied around his neck.

[Alan S]

Originally posted by Auriaprottu
I see where you're coming from, but I'm worried about further erosion of the game here due to placating well-meaning but uneducated (soccerwise) fans. This is how that joke of a penalty shootout from the early MLS days came to be.

Yes, and thank goodness that the shootout is gone. I don't put the lack of relegation for MLS in the same category however.

I think instead of relegation for teams that do poorly we should work more on reserve teams that play in the A-league or PDL leagues to develop players that are not quite ready for MLS. (MLS affiliate teams, or youth PDL teams). Rather then relegating/promoting teams, lets relegate/promote players. This will increase the depth of MLS rosters.

Regarding a single table point system to determine the champion instead of a play-offs. I'd like to see that as just one of three ways to crown a champion. Winning all three should be rare, but highly covetted. (The same as an NFL team having a perfect season.)

[Alan S]

Originally posted by Various Styles
[BFred's Choice of Clothing is enough to know he was a fruitcake, no self respecting man wears a Scarf tied around his neck. [/B]

VS glad to see you back.

Well it has been a while, but these guy got past White House security.

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/archive/photos/images/73-3609.jpg

Fred was either a boy scout that didn't grow up, or a victim of the 70s fashion disaster.

[superfrantheman]

i support relegation, they should make the USL league its second division by 2012 or 2013

[scarshins]

competing businesses

no go

[white riot]

What's occuring here?

[Moises]

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