Borowski a pivotal player in the future?

[kontrol-ball-Germany]

In the future i see Borowski as a pivotal player for Germany he has many good aspects to his game like good passing, vision and def touches and an all round awareness of the game.

What do you guys think of him? What are his good and bad points? How can he serve Germany best with regards to playing style and contribution?

Where does he fit in Germany's future?

[squidward123]

he is going to be a big part of it.

I'd like to see him in the starting XI permanently soon (yeah I know no one to get rid of for him but still making my point)

[kontrol-ball-Germany]

he is going to be a big part of it.

I'd like to see him in the starting XI permanently soon (yeah I know no one to get rid of for him but still making my point)

We are very fortunate in this respect that even if he cannot come on in the starting line up, we still have a player who can come on late in the game even in extra time fresh and full of energy where he can add a lot of creativity. He appears relaxed and composed with short or long range passing and does not give the ball away too often either.

[squidward123]

We are very fortunate in this respect that even if he cannot come on in the starting line up, we still have a player who can come on late in the game even in extra time fresh and full of energy where he can add a lot of creativity. He appears relaxed and composed with short or long range passing and does not give the ball away too often either.


exactly, he is a gem.


why aren't more people commenting on this???

[Snakeater]

IMO, Germany needs one or two creative wizards, like a Thomas Haessler, to win a tournament. Schweinsteiger was supposed to be that guy, but he couldn't raise the his level of play against Argentina and Italy. If Germany had more dangerous offensive players on the wing, it would go a long way in making Borowski a more effective player in the middle of the pitch.

I was impressed with his performance against Costa Rica, in which he saw the field very well, spreading the ball out through short and long range passes. He initiated most of Germany's forays into the Costa Rican half. Germany's offense ran the Costa Ricans raggard as they had a lot trouble with our players on the flanks, Lahm, Schwiensteiger, and Schneider.

Borowski was somewhat ineffective against the Italians though who had a much stronger defense.

For a guy like Borowski to be truly effective, Germany's needs more dangerous players on the flanks who draw extra coverage from the opposing team's defenders. Schwieni (ineffective) and Schneider (now too slow) didn't put much fear into the Argentines nor the Italians, which allowed our opposition to clog up the middle of the park, giving Borowski less time and space, and, hence, less options, which is probably why he was so ineffective against the Italians. He's not a Diego type who can take defenders on on his own; he needs support.

While he's an important player, Germany needs more creative, dangerous types on the wings who spread the field out a bit. In that scenario, I can see Borowski being more effective playmaker in the middle of the pitch.

[squidward123]

snakeater, maybe given the chance borowski will react accordingly to the game (and not need so and so to do such and such for him)

I think he's good enough to do that.

he played on the left and did really well against italy. Clean crisp touches and passes and some very nice footwork when needed.

As well as the linking up with lahm.

But in that game nobody outshone anybody did they? It was a perfect game which was the best technically I've seen for a long long time.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Question is how does he fit if he plays with a full German squad.

Who do you drop? Ballack? No one drops Ballack. Frings? If they ever dropped Frings many of us would revolt. Schneider? Too good form right now. Schweinsteiger? He can change the game in an instant even though he is not consistent.

I think Borowski has to be content with his role right now. Luckily for him, Schneider is fairly old. He can then move to DM and have Frings play his role in WB at RM, or switch. Its nice to have such versatile players in the NT. Borowski does have a pivotal part in the NT for many years to come. Class player as well.

[footyfan1]

I think Borowski's problem has been mentioned. While he is a very good player in his own right, he's not quite good enough to unseat Frings or Ballack and I don't think he's quite offensive enough to play Schneider's position.

To be honest, I think Borowski's development is being stifled at Bremen since Frings returned.

I believe Borowski and Frings are too much alike. They are strong personalities who need to get out and lead.

And what sucks is that I do believe they need to play the same position.

I believe the longer Borowski stays with Frings, the more he'll be held back. Not purposely, but I think that is what's happening with him.

I think Borowski needs to join a team where he can play a leadership role in midfield.

Bremen will be in good hands with the kid they have loaned out to Mainz, Andreasen.

[Bastifantasti]

he is far better than the mediocre,but i doubt he will ever become really good or outstanding. Schweinsteiger has more talent.

[Dr.Phil]

I agree there is just no place for him right now

[squidward123]

germany played some very nice looking attacking stuff a la the world cup for the majority of the 2nd half after borowski came on for ballack.

[LebenslangGruenWeiss]

I agree there is just no place for him right now

I think there is. Especially right now with the way Schweinsteiger plays. Schweinsteiger doesn't have more talent his play is just more "exciting". Many people mix that up.

[squidward123]

I think there is. Especially right now with the way Schweinsteiger plays. Schweinsteiger doesn't have more talent his play is just more "exciting". Many people mix that up.

Yeah i agree. People need to define what the hell "talent" means.

Right now I'd have borowski in at LM for schweinsteiger. As much as I like schweinsteiger, I think borowski would be even better. He did a brillaint job against italy.

Or borowski for ballack as in the 2nd half of the swiss game, or the first game of the world cup. But that's unlikely to happen. But we always play more attractively with borowski in instead of ballack.

[Psychosis hsv]

I agree with the original poster
BOROWSKI is great

nice crosses , nice tackling
but poor dribbling skills

He's the present and the future king of German mid

[footyfan1]

I think there is. Especially right now with the way Schweinsteiger plays. Schweinsteiger doesn't have more talent his play is just more "exciting". Many people mix that up.


Right on man. I definitely agree. Schweinsteiger is definitely the more offensively exciting player to watch.

I believe Borowski is the better and more complete player. By far.

If I was told I had to choose between the two of them to start a team, I'd definitely take Borowski.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Yea, but the way Borowski fits in the team though...do you want to have a slower Borowski, taking on men? We already have a slow winger in Schneider, and Schweinsteiger has the skills that most German players don't have, i.e. the ability to take on their men, the ability to cut inside well, plus he's our best set piece taker (although you can argue that with Frings and Schneider as well). Borowski to me is too similar to Frings and Ballack. Sometimes showy is good for a team, Germany does not have too many of these flair players; Klose is not really a flair player, neither is Podolski. Ballack and Frings are bulldogs, built like a tank, but not very fast. Schneider is a wily vet. Schweinsteiger is a totally different player, and that works well in our national team. His international record speaks for itself. The thing is, where he plays his club football, Bayern are such a static team that Schweinsteiger is basically wasted, as is Lahm.

[footyfan1]

Yea, but the way Borowski fits in the team though...do you want to have a slower Borowski, taking on men? We already have a slow winger in Schneider, and Schweinsteiger has the skills that most German players don't have, i.e. the ability to take on their men, the ability to cut inside well, plus he's our best set piece taker (although you can argue that with Frings and Schneider as well). Borowski to me is too similar to Frings and Ballack. Sometimes showy is good for a team, Germany does not have too many of these flair players; Klose is not really a flair player, neither is Podolski. Ballack and Frings are bulldogs, built like a tank, but not very fast. Schneider is a wily vet. Schweinsteiger is a totally different player, and that works well in our national team. His international record speaks for itself. The thing is, where he plays his club football, Bayern are such a static team that Schweinsteiger is basically wasted, as is Lahm.


I'll answer for myself. I wasn't talking about how Borowski fits into the German team. I addressed that with my first response on this thread.

I was talking about who is the better overall player. And I'll take Borowski on my team before Schweinsteiger any day.

I can find five players to do what Schweinsteiger does. There aren't that many who can do what Borowski, Ballack and Frings do.

It's just a shame for Germany that they're here at the same time.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

I'll answer for myself. I wasn't talking about how Borowski fits into the German team. I addressed that with my first response on this thread.

I was talking about who is the better overall player. And I'll take Borowski on my team before Schweinsteiger any day.

I can find five players to do what Schweinsteiger does. There aren't that many who can do what Borowski, Ballack and Frings do.

It's just a shame for Germany that they're here at the same time.

Well I answered the question originally posted. Didn't know we had gone off on a bit of tangent, but anyways can you tell me some German players who do what Schweinsteiger does? There are not a lot of dribble "koenigs" in Germany right now

[footyfan1]

Well I answered the question originally posted. Didn't know we had gone off on a bit of tangent, but anyways can you tell me some German players who do what Schweinsteiger does? There are not a lot of dribble "koenigs" in Germany right now


Schweinsteiger isn't that great himself. You take him off that Bayern team and put him somewhere like maybe Dortmund, Bochum, Mainz or Cottbus and you tell me you'll get the same output??

Hell no. He benefits from being on that Bayern team. You see this season when defenses can focus more on him, he isn't doing shit.

Schweinsteiger is not a player I look at and say, "You can put him anywhere and he'd be successful."

Hell no. Podolski is that type of player, so is van Bommel, but I don't think Schweinsteiger is.

He's a product of FC Bayern Muenchen. Take him away from there and I don't think he does nearly as well.

Watch his game closer. He's pretty freakin' good, but he's not a "great". Not yet.

So many of you seem to think he is "great" already. I don't think so.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

I never said that anyways. I'm just saying he offers a different weapon to the National Team that no one else in Germany can do.