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Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 07:30 PM
Our friend Steven Goff from the Washington Post is reporting that Developmental players will be getting a $1,200.00 pay raise this season and will now be earning a paltry $12,900.00!

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/

*Good news for those poverty-striken developmental players. Looks like their salaries will be $12,900 this season, a $1,200 increase

It's no wonder that more and more young kids are seeking opportunities in Europe! This a crying shame for MLS and something they should NOT be proud of!

aosthed
23 Jan 2007, 07:33 PM
Are you kidding? That's over a 10% raise!!!

They just need to be happy with that - it's nearly minimum wage. ;)

seven256
23 Jan 2007, 07:49 PM
simply makes more financial sense for kids in america w/o lucrative offers from europe to go the college route.. this is a damn shame (for the sake american soccer development), but until MLS becomes profitable, it is also going to be the reality of the situation for a long time to come..

Onionsack
23 Jan 2007, 07:53 PM
It's no wonder that more and more young kids are seeking opportunities in Europe! This a crying shame for MLS and something they should NOT be proud of!


I agree.

Not so much right now, because the vast majority of those making that dev contract right now dont have many other options elsewhere. But as the youth system grows and these players coming through the ranks see that they wont make crap promiting into the first team, will bolt if they can (Gabe Ferrari for example) before we even get the chance to see them.

They need to scrap the whole Dev contract thing and just set a minimum salary for all first team players and allow them to designate those under 24 or 25 as not senior roster ( to ensure every team is keeping places on the squad for young developing talent from their drafts and academy.

DoctorD
23 Jan 2007, 07:57 PM
I agree.

Not so much right now, because the vast majority of those making that dev contract right now dont have many other options elsewhere. But as the youth system grows and these players coming through the ranks see that they wont make crap promiting into the first team, will bolt if they can (Gabe Ferrari for example) before we even get the chance to see them.

They need to scrap the whole Dev contract thing and just set a minimum salary for all first team players and allow them to designate those under 24 or 25 as not senior roster ( to ensure every team is keeping places on the squad for young developing talent from their drafts and academy.MLS: hey mr union rep, here's the pot of money I have.

MLSPA: spend it on benefits and salary increases for the established players.

MLS: what about the rookies?

MLSPA: OK, a few grand then.

ritsoccer86
23 Jan 2007, 08:09 PM
Our friend Steven Goff from the Washington Post is reporting that Developmental players will be getting a $1,200.00 pay raise this season and will now be earning a paltry $12,900.00!

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/



It's no wonder that more and more young kids are seeking opportunities in Europe! This a crying shame for MLS and something they should NOT be proud of!

DUDE, shutup. MLB Farm teams and NBA Farm teams do the same crap. Those MLB players get paid squat *hit as well as those NBA wannabes.

Yeah its very very low but hey thats life right? I mean, its a route to the pros instead of going to college and gettin' drunk every weekend. I'd still choose the college route as I am in it right now.

You have to ask yourself though, Is this dream of yours worth it, of playing professional soccer? Not that many players in this country think so ONCE they are done with high school. But with this MLS Youth Academy stuff, it should help a little bit.

uclacarlos
23 Jan 2007, 08:27 PM
It's no wonder that more and more young kids are seeking opportunities in Europe!
Link?

Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 08:47 PM
DUDE, shutup. MLB Farm teams and NBA Farm teams do the same crap. Those MLB players get paid squat *hit as well as those NBA wannabes.


For MLB Farm teams...

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Minor-League-Baseball-2921/minor-league-baseball-salaries-1.htm

Answer
carl,

Minor League Baseball player contracts are handled by the Major League Baseball office. Here are the salary ranges:

First contract season: $1,100/month maximum. After that, open to negotiation
Alien Salary Rates: Different for aliens on visas--mandated by INS (Immigration).

Meal Money: $20 per day at all levels, while on the road

I would agree with your assesment of MINOR League baseball players, however we are talking about MAJOR League SOCCER. If you want to compare apples to apples, let's talk about the guys on the bottom of the totem pole in MAJOR League baseball... :rolleyes:

Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 08:51 PM
Link?

How many links do you really want? Over/Under 100? Have you not a clue how many young players we are losing?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=399682&cc=5901

AndyMead
23 Jan 2007, 08:54 PM
MLS: hey mr union rep, here's the pot of money I have.

MLSPA: spend it on benefits and salary increases for the established players.

MLS: what about the rookies?

MLSPA: OK, a few grand then.

Which just tells me that you didn't follow the signing of the original CBA where the majority of the increases and benefits were targetted at the low end of the scale.

AndyMead
23 Jan 2007, 08:55 PM
How many links do you really want? Over/Under 100? Have you not a clue how many young players we are losing?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=399682&cc=5901

The players we're "losing" wouldn't be 12.9k "DEV" players.

monster
23 Jan 2007, 09:01 PM
How many links do you really want? Over/Under 100? Have you not a clue how many young players we are losing?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=399682&cc=5901
According to Yanks-Abroad.com, there are 57 Americans playing overseas. I really doubt more than a handful are over there because thee salaries at the low end of the MLS ladder were not to their liking. On the contrary, guys like Preston Zimmerman, Benny Feilhaber, Lee Nguyen, Charlie Davies, Robbie Rogers, Oguchi Onyewu and other young studs were headed for higher numbers, but made a choice based on their own reasons.

So if you're worried that Ian Joy didn't like his salary while with the Crew and figures he can do better in the German Regionalliga, I think MLS can survive that kind of blow.

MLS and the union have done nothing but make improvements to salaries and benefits for players over the past three years. Is there more work to do? Of course, but it's a shame that some "fans" are more intent on bitching instead of taking a clear look at the situation.

Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 09:04 PM
DUDE, shutup. MLB Farm teams and NBA Farm teams do the same crap. Those MLB players get paid squat *hit as well as those NBA wannabes.


Let's take a look at the lowest team payroll in MLB for the '06 season, shall we? The Tampa Bay Devil Rays had the lowest payroll in the league with the bottom guy making $327,000!

http://sportsline.com/mlb/teams/roster/TB

No BULLPEN AGE B T HT WT DOB 2006 SALARY
59 Camp, Shawn 31 R R 6-1 200 11/18/1975 $335,000
66 Carvajal, Marcos 22 R R 6-4 175 08/19/1984 Not available
36 Jackson, Edwin 23 R R 6-3 190 09/09/1983 Not available
45 Lugo, Ruddy 26 R R 5-11 175 05/22/1980 $327,000

monster
23 Jan 2007, 09:06 PM
Let's take a look at the lowest team payroll in MLB for the '06 season, shall we? The Tampa Bay Devil Rays had the lowest payroll in the league with the bottom guy making $327,000!

http://sportsline.com/mlb/teams/roster/TB
Dude.

Seriously, dude.

Do you really want to go there. Do you really want to blindly compare salaries without looking at revenues?

Just stop. We all wish players made more. But you need to stop the moral indignation without looking at reality.

Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 09:10 PM
MLS and the union have done nothing but make improvements to salaries and benefits for players over the past three years. Is there more work to do? Of course, but it's a shame that some "fans" are more intent on bitching instead of taking a clear look at the situation.

If you take my posts as "bitching" then so be it, but the fact that young guys in MLS are below the poverty level is not acceptable! If you're satisfied that a kid can go work at McDonald's and make more than a "professional" soccer player then pass the rose colored glasses on over to me so I can have a "clear look".

monster
23 Jan 2007, 09:14 PM
the fact that young guys in MLS are below the poverty level is not acceptable!

Considering the union accepted a CBA with this language, I'd say it is acceptable. They accepted it. Life isn't fair. Not everyone gets to make the money they want.

I certainly hope you unleash your moral indignation on other industries that pay lesser educated people poorly and make them work more than four or five hours a day and don't give them all the perks of a professional athlete.

Yea, this is something MLS should improve. And they are. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by ritsoccer86
DUDE, shutup. MLB Farm teams and NBA Farm teams do the same crap. Those MLB players get paid squat *hit as well as those NBA wannabes.




Seriously, dude.

Do you really want to go there. Do you really want to blindly compare salaries without looking at revenues?



Gee, thanks for making my point Dude!

DoctorD
23 Jan 2007, 09:17 PM
Which just tells me that you didn't follow the signing of the original CBA where the majority of the increases and benefits were targetted at the low end of the scale.I was only making the point that the designated representatives of the players approved the salaries.

zt40391
23 Jan 2007, 09:19 PM
you guys need to understand that the owners have been losing money for 12 years now. Its isnt like they are making money. its is as basic as supply and demand as demand grows for major league soccer all players should expect to make money but not when owners are losing upto 3-5 million dollars a year. MLS has lost 350 million dollars since its establishment.

Keenan
23 Jan 2007, 09:23 PM
The players we're "losing" wouldn't be 12.9k "DEV" players.

We will never know about the players we are "losing" because how many kids COULD have played in MLS, but didn't like the idea of making peanuts and now instead are working in other industries throughout the country.