View Full Version : Who is Fergie best ever big game player?
Dark Savante
23 Jan 2007, 02:28 PM
Putting aside Sunday's game, who do you think has been Fergie's biggest big game player, ever?
The shortlist is there, voting there thankyouplease /Avid
For me, it comes down to a choice of only 3players. two of whom actually play(ed) better in the big games than they did/do in the lesser games of a campaign.
Struggling to pick from the three. Let's see were voting takes us... would be nice to get some reasoning as well!?!
johno
23 Jan 2007, 03:06 PM
For me it came down to
Peter, Rio and Dwight and I'm not even considering Eric or Roy - they are just on another level and everyone else, perhaps save Peter is a mere mortal.
I think its still very early to include Ronaldo and Rooney.
benni...
23 Jan 2007, 03:09 PM
One name that stands out that shouldnt be there IMO... yet is Rooney.
holytoledo
23 Jan 2007, 03:56 PM
It was a toss up for me between Keano and Ole. I went with Ole.
sdotsom
23 Jan 2007, 03:57 PM
Ole.
The Guv'nor
23 Jan 2007, 04:06 PM
For me the player that always stood out on the great European adventures was Ryan Giggs. He always seemed to just be electric, particularly his performances against Juventus. Going up a gear I think was the phrased commonly used.
Of more recent years, its definately Ronaldo for me. Man of the match in the FA cup final in his first season, a foreigner here & 18/19 years old, was also impressive against Liverpool at home. Next season he did well against Liverpool again at home, as well as Arsenal at home, and his goals at Highbury drew us level & put us ahead respectively. Man of the match in the cup final as well. Our best and only really threatening player against Milan in the CL, that fantastic run from near the edge of our pen area (I think) right into theirs which Quinny almost scored from stands out, he really took the game to them. Ridiculously subbed at the end of the first leg though:confused: This season I think the stand out one has been the Benfica game away.
Case for Schmeichel etc as well, so undecided at the moment.
Interesting enough, if you look at the big games Fletcher has played in, he's been outstanding in quite a few (namely against his bitch Paddy Vieira :D )
Fandando
23 Jan 2007, 04:12 PM
Hughes was always the go to guy on the big occasion; his goalscoring record in semi finals, finals and showpiece events was unparalleled.
SirManchester
23 Jan 2007, 04:34 PM
I'll go with Cantona - It's hard not to. He always provided something in important games, late goals, late equalizers, rallying the team to equalize or win, in important league games, and cup games and even cup finals.
Some more I'd include are Keane, Ole, and Schmeichel.
bestbecks
23 Jan 2007, 04:54 PM
I chose Ole, but only just. Cantona and Schmeichel were both very close to getting my vote. I guess it's just for me that Ole has proven time and time again he can score big goals in big games for us, and he doesn't even need to have played in a full game to have a major impact on it as proven in the 1999 season for example. He always comes out of the dark and wins it for us.
Republic of Mancunia
23 Jan 2007, 05:07 PM
Sparky immediately sprang to mind and that's who I'm sticking with. :cool:
Dark Savante
23 Jan 2007, 05:09 PM
I'll go with Cantona - It's hard not to. He always provided something in important games, late goals, late equalizers, rallying the team to equalize or win, in important league games, and cup games and even cup finals.
http://www.compasstours-travel.com/Map_of_Europe_800.jpg .......?
johno
23 Jan 2007, 05:15 PM
I guess its easy to confuse being a clutch player with being a big game player. When the situation was dire, Eric was immense.
SirManchester
23 Jan 2007, 06:31 PM
http://www.compasstours-travel.com/Map_of_Europe_800.jpg .......?
ugh...I'm so sorry but I don't get it.
Fandando
23 Jan 2007, 08:02 PM
ugh...I'm so sorry but I don't get it.
Another clue...
http://www.goedfout.be/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/europe.jpg
listen_up_fergie
23 Jan 2007, 08:34 PM
ugh...I'm so sorry but I don't get it.
Europe.
Republic of Mancunia
23 Jan 2007, 09:00 PM
Europe.
Ah, I know it's cheesy but I don't care, t'was one of the first records (showing me age) I bought and still love it. Time to spaz out to the anthem that is......
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and the 'b' side...
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Now back on topic, Fergie at least at one point said it was Hughes.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7B847FFC5F-947A-470D-A13B-E757FD63C2A8%7D&bioid=92114§ion=&page=2
Hughes’ new partnership with Eric Cantona lit the touchpaper for United’s title charge and later Sparky was moved to say, “I know the Frenchman changed my footballing life.” And while Cantona grabbed the headlines, it was Hughes’ 100th league goal against Crystal Palace that helped clinch the first ever Premiership crown.
Sir Alex once said: “Hughes was the best big game player I have known,”, never more so than in the 1994 FA Cup semi-final against Oldham when his injury time volley saved United from a shock Wembley defeat. The Reds beat Oldham in the replay and went on to trounce Chelsea 4-0 in the final – Hughes scoring the third to land the club’s first ever Double.
Stud83
23 Jan 2007, 09:13 PM
I don't buy for a second this European argument against Cantona. If not for Cantona, we may have never got to Champions League at all. We went 26 years without a title before him, ffs. And back then you actually had to win it in order to participate in CL.
It's not like we've had a lot of success in Europe besides 1999 season. And, in fact, I think Cantona is one of the main reasons why we were able to win in the late 90s, after he retired. Just ask Beckham/Scholes/Giggs. And btw, Beckham was our MVP in 1999 - if the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney are included, surely he needs to be in the list. :confused:
The difference between Eric and everyone else that was after him (I am talking players, not SAF obviously) is that Eric created the winning team. Eric made Manchester United the biggest club in the world.
Voting for him.
Stud83
23 Jan 2007, 09:20 PM
ROM, as far as Europe - you should've shown their concert version of the countdown - it's much better than the video :)
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Father Ted
23 Jan 2007, 10:11 PM
Regarding Cantona, I had a look back at his goals (thanks to rsssf.com).
He was the only United scorer in 17 games, 12 of which were wins (just league games, excluding cups). In 95/96 alone, he was the only scorer in 5 of United wins(remember the stretch of his 1-0 wins?) and also the only United scorer in 3 other games that ended up as draws.
listen_up_fergie
23 Jan 2007, 10:13 PM
The difference between Eric and everyone else that was after him (I am talking players, not SAF obviously) is that Eric created the winning team. Eric made Manchester United the biggest club in the world.
Voting for him.
I think that's irrelevant to our question here. No doubt, Cantona's contribution to this club was immense. But the fact that he never really replicated his domestic form in Europe (and at the international stage) makes him less of a "big game" player IMO.
Hughes always seemed to pop up with goals when it mattered, and Robson was a big game player for us even before Fergie took over at the helm.