Schedule so far?

[JMMUSA8]

I remember last years draft picks...I also remember them all getting cut at the end of the year



Sims and Brown got cut?

[wolfp10]

Our top MLS players are going to be quite worn down towards the end of the season and into the playoffs, with Copa America, Gold Cup, and now the All-Star Game.

[Chowda]

Our top MLS players are going to be quite worn down towards the end of the season and into the playoffs, with Copa America, Gold Cup, and now the All-Star Game.

Don't forget the mid-season friendlies.

[edlova]

Sims and Brown got cut?

Sims is the only player from last years draft on the roster, I will give you that. All the other "drafted" players are gone.




Remember when there was a shootout? That worked well too.

[edlova]

Don't forget the mid-season friendlies.

yeah because Celtic is not coming all the way over here again for one friendly...maybe we can have another showdown. then cut the guy who scores for us. just like last year...

[patfan1]

Sims and Brown got cut?
You're right, Brown got traded. But we have from last year's draft one second round pick who rarely ever sees the field. Can we officially title that draft a bust yet?

Oh wait ... I'm sorry, we still have that allocation to use!

[Chowda]

You're right, Brown got traded. But we have from last year's draft one second round pick who rarely ever sees the field. Can we officially title that draft a bust yet?

Oh wait ... I'm sorry, we still have that allocation to use!

People need to stop kidding themselves. Brown got cut. If he wasn't traded, he wouldn't have made the roster this year. We were just lucky enough to find a coach who drinks during drafts to take that albatross off our backs:

"I like that guy that was just picked. We should pick him next round. Who's that chick over there? Pass the pretzels. I love you man!"

[patfan1]

People need to stop kidding themselves. Brown got cut. If he wasn't traded, he wouldn't have made the roster this year. We were just lucky enough to find a coach who drinks during drafts to take that albatross off our backs:

"I like that guy that was just picked. We should pick him next round. Who's that chick over there? Pass the pretzels. I love you man!"
While I do agree, we did get something for him, so it's not a full cut, as we normally would define it.

[ToMhIlL]

At least they are a massive club:

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8751_1853087,00.html

(I fell over laughing reading the Blackburn quote. Again when I saw the source.)Brilliant!

OK, with that kind of company, why can't we also claim to be a "massive" club? (Is it too late to nominate one of those Rev-ized quotes as our forum tag-line?) I still say it's better than being a "Super Club," Alexi.

But back to the topic: Face the facts, Celtic ARE a grand old team, even if Ryan Latham did score against them. I have a video that opens with Bill Shankly saying that "Celtic arra most successful football club in the world, and no one can dispute that." (Most of you have likely heard me reference the bastardized Glaswegian version of that, but that's the original). Besides, Seamus' gran has a framed picture of the Lisbon Lions on the wall, right next to the Last Supper, so if that doesn't settle the argument once and for all, I don't know what does!

Anyway, All-Star games were a great idea when they started it in the 1930s in baseball, but it's a pretty useless idea in today's MLS. At least they have the sense to not waste a weekend date with it, and personally, I hope that only a few Revs are picked and they each only play a half at the most, since they surely will have a real game the following weekend.

But if it means the Sturgis, SD chapter of the Celtic Supporters Club get to take a fun road trip, what the hell, no harm done.

[RevsFanDan]

I think the problem is that I don't believe most of us are trying to take shots at Celtic. Most of us just really don't like the idea of an All-Star game, no matter who it's being played against (ie, I hated the idea of an All-Star game against Chelsea as well).

Is it really smart to play a "useless" game in the middle of a season..risking injury to important players?

I guess if you're the Fire or DC you certainly hope one of the Celts breaks TNT's leg or something.

Useless, Meaningless and Dangerous. Baseball does it because what's the worse that can happen..a splinter? a swallowed chew? a hurt ego?

we banished the shootout to the NHL...let's get rid of the ALL-Star game, once and for all..and leave the charity games & friendlies for the out of season months. But, wait..most of the teams are out of their season when MLS is in season...

Get the season to be Fall to Late spring and take a break during the deep winter...I'm not sure how. But as Alan Shore said on Boston Legal "I'm sure we can hire a smart person to solve the problem...what about one of the Steve's?"

Then we can leave the summer to the Gold Cup, World Cup, NorthAmerican Cup, and any other Cup we need to fill during the dog days of summer.

[JMMUSA8]

Get the season to be Fall to Late spring and take a break during the deep winter...I'm not sure how. But as Alan Shore said on Boston Legal "I'm sure we can hire a smart person to solve the problem...what about one of the Steve's?"

Then we can leave the summer to the Gold Cup, World Cup, NorthAmerican Cup, and any other Cup we need to fill during the dog days of summer.

Because if you do that now MLS will go under quicker then the NASL when the stars left.

[Chowda]

Because if you do that now MLS will go under quicker then the NASL when the stars left.

Why do you say that? Currently, the only important MLS games are played when all four sports are being played and during the MLB playoffs. Attendance and viewership are piss-poor during that stretch. That clearly hasn't worked out well.

Summer friendlies would take place outside of the season or at the beginning when games aren't as important and more players would have the opportunity to sign for a full season instead of signing over half way through and hoping they don't mess up the chemistry of their team.

A winter break would have to be 5-8 weeks long depending on how creative they can schedule. This would also spread the season out which would make it very easy to reschedule a game that was postponed due to an unseasonable blizzard in november or march. March and November games would have to be played during the afternoon. I still say this kind of game would outdraw your standard weeknight MLS game.

If they wanted to, they could get away with an actual split season like in mexico. A team would have never gotten away with being named Red Bull New York in any of the major sports in the US. An appletura/closerino would be the least of the worries for people concerned about the mainstream media slamming MLS.

Take a look at how the Germans schedules their season and how soon in the summer the French and Scottish leagues start. MLS wouldn't be unique in starting in the middle of July and taking 1-2 months off in the winter. Heck, they could even run an interliga for superliga qualification in january to keep the season going.

Personally, I think the positives outweigh the negatives in making this switch.

[JMMUSA8]

Why do you say that? Currently, the only important MLS games are played when all four sports are being played and during the MLB playoffs. Attendance and viewership are piss-poor during that stretch. That clearly hasn't worked out well.

Summer friendlies would take place outside of the season or at the beginning when games aren't as important and more players would have the opportunity to sign for a full season instead of signing over half way through and hoping they don't mess up the chemistry of their team.

A winter break would have to be 5-8 weeks long depending on how creative they can schedule. This would also spread the season out which would make it very easy to reschedule a game that was postponed due to an unseasonable blizzard in november or march. March and November games would have to be played during the afternoon. I still say this kind of game would outdraw your standard weeknight MLS game.

If they wanted to, they could get away with an actual split season like in mexico. A team would have never gotten away with being named Red Bull New York in any of the major sports in the US. An appletura/closerino would be the least of the worries for people concerned about the mainstream media slamming MLS.

Take a look at how the Germans schedules their season and how soon in the summer the French and Scottish leagues start. MLS wouldn't be unique in starting in the middle of July and taking 1-2 months off in the winter. Heck, they could even run an interliga for superliga qualification in january to keep the season going.

Personally, I think the positives outweigh the negatives in making this switch.

Because if MLS is struggling to get 16K in nice weather, what makes you think MLS will get anywhere close to that in bad weather. MLS doesn't have a strong fan base. Comparing it to German and French leagues doesn't mean anything, those leagues have history and strong fan bases.

Two years ago (if I recall correctly) NY played RSL in NY in April with winds of 30MPH+ and downpours, not to mention it was cold. There was about 500 people there.

The league would flop if they were to move it to the FIFA schedule anytime soon.

[ToMhIlL]

People like us consider ourselves the "serious" fans, the kind of people who actually would go to games in miserable weather, like late November or February. Just for laughs, let's pretend that there are a hell of a lot more people like us than the minivans full of kids we usually see at Revs games.

I went to an Eintracht Frankfurt game in the first week of March when it was around 30 degrees F. I froze my @ss off, even if I did have the Glauwein vendors to help me keep warm. Sure it was fun, and a nice novelty, but to do this week-in, week-out, well, I would do it, but I can see why others might not want to.

It would be suicide from an attendance point of view. The Pats can host a playoff game when its 4 degrees outside, but the Revs can not. End of story.

Usually it's the brain-dead left coasters who are the ones making this suggestion, just because to them, ice is only something you put in a drink. I expect that from those tools, but I expect Revs fans to have at least a couple more brain cells than some American Idol watching idiot from the sunbelt who hasn't grasped things like climate differences.

[Chowda]

It's often colder in April and October when the sun goes down than it is in March and November during the day. Just look at the difference in temperatures from the NY tailgate to the actual gametime last year.

Creative scheduling is all it would take.

And the nice weather didn't help us for wednesday night games last year or the game on 7/1 against NY.

[JMMUSA8]

It's often colder in April and October when the sun goes down than it is in March and November during the day. Just look at the difference in temperatures from the NY tailgate to the actual gametime last year.

Creative scheduling is all it would take.

And the nice weather didn't help us for wednesday night games last year or the game on 7/1 against NY.

Weekday games have always been that way.

Basically what I'm saying is if attendence is so fragile, why would you destroy it by putting it during the time of the year when everyone pretty much stays indoors.

[patfan1]

Weekday games have always been that way.

Basically what I'm saying is if attendence is so fragile, why would you destroy it by putting it during the time of the year when everyone pretty much stays indoors.
I'll agree with this.

On top of that, can you imagine the Revs schedule? We wouldn't have a home game from January till mid-April! We'd have to move to Bermuda to see our team play.

[KaptPowers]

Brilliant!
Besides, Seamus' gran has a framed picture of the Lisbon Lions on the wall, right next to the Last Supper, so if that doesn't settle the argument once and for all, I don't know what does!


Arguing with my gran will get you severly hurt and cursed at in a language you will not understand hahaha :)

I have to spread rep around before I can give to you again, Tom. I'll give you a beer.

[wolfp10]

Because if MLS is struggling to get 16K in nice weather, what makes you think MLS will get anywhere close to that in bad weather. MLS doesn't have a strong fan base. Comparing it to German and French leagues doesn't mean anything, those leagues have history and strong fan bases.

Two years ago (if I recall correctly) NY played RSL in NY in April with winds of 30MPH+ and downpours, not to mention it was cold. There was about 500 people there.

The league would flop if they were to move it to the FIFA schedule anytime soon.

the 9/20 roadtrip to Giant's Stadium didn't exactly draw a big crowd, and the weather was windy, but somewhat seasonable, and on a Wednesday...

http://thumb17.webshots.net/t/53/553/1/18/64/2433118640056796577eXWEYn_th.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2433118640056796577eXWEYn)

http://thumb17.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/53/64/2665253640056796577zzdAgG_th.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2665253640056796577zzdAgG)

[Chowda]

On top of that, can you imagine the Revs schedule? We wouldn't have a home game from January till mid-April! We'd have to move to Bermuda to see our team play.

I still contend that we can host afternoon games in march.

Lengthening the amount of time MLS is in season is important for the league to keep up with other leagues. If a team doesn't make the playoffs, they are off for five months.

The Mexican season is starting up again this weekend. I'm not saying we should be hosting games in january, but you have to wonder how we expect to become relevant when a lot of league's total offseason is half the length of our's.