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Casper1377
12 Aug 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by TravisMinor_23
Well, judging keepers is highly subjective. I honestly don't know what your purpose of posting stats were but my point was to tell other people they mean nothing. I've seen a number of Fire games this year, just the Colorado one stuck out in my head. If you want to use yesterday thats fine too. The first goal shouldn't have gone in...period. Say what you will about deflections but the ball was postmarked for the same side of the goal it went to despite the deflection. I played keeper for a number of years and still do (obviously not at a level like Thorton :D) and deflections are always tough, but that one should have been had pretty easily for a man with the type of reach Zach has. Its hard to argue with the second goal, really not much you can do when your defenders decide to leave Kries wide open...


okay.... you STILL don't understand about the stats...go back to my last post before yours and READ CAREFULLY AND SLOWLY the first paragraph. Then read it again, sounding out each word. I swear it's in there. You should be able to find the answer. Reading comprehension...please.

anyway...yeah, he had a bad game.And that first goal WAS dispicable. No argument there whatsoever. Horrible, terrible, stinking, rotten, awful, disgraceful performance. A bad, bad game from a naughty, naughty goalkeeper. Shame!
It seems like other 'keepers have those from time to time too. I'm sure Oliver Kahn, Peter Shmeichel, Gordon Banks and even YOU :D in your experience have had a bad game or two or let a bad goal in that you wish you could have back. Maybe not...

in any regard, Thornton sucks and we should run his ass out of town. As soon as he gets back from Dallas angry villagers with torches and pitchforks are going to his house.
SO it looks like Tim Howard will be the only option for goal next World Cup. I just hope he can find time to come down off the cross to make the game. If he can't I'm sure you'll be available!

cheers!

passtheblizz
12 Aug 2002, 04:04 PM
Obviously Brad Freidel, barring injury, will be back in the nets for us in 2006. If history has shown anything, it is that a keeper will play far longer for a national team than most other players. Also given the fact that he is arguably our best player, I am doubting that he won't be in Germany. I could say the same for Keller. Howard deserves the third spot, and by that time may well be the best keeper that we have got, if he isn't right now.

The only reason Tony went to Korea was to talk to the press. Also, in the unlikely event that Casey and Brad both were injured, Tony would have come in with a lot of experience. I don't think that anyone, including Bruce Arena, would take Meola over Howard as a starting keep, but the Cup is different, and different rules apply.

Of course, Howard may not play in the WC for another eight years. You can say that a keeper gets better with age, but when you take into account that Howard's best ability is his agility, you would have to think that HE will be at his prime in four years, not in eight. Regardless, he should get the bulk of the play in internationals for the next few years.

BenReilly
22 Aug 2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by flanoverseas

[b]True, but guess what Bill Buckner, Roberto Baggio, Scott Norwood are going to be remembered for despite exceptional careers?

Only by the total morons of the world. Baggio remembered mostly for the PK? I don't think so. I honestly believe that most people will remember his 1994 WC in a positive light.

Knowledgeable baseball fans will not remember Buckner just for the one bad play that happened after the Red Sox blew a seemlingly insurmountable lead. You might have a point about Norwood, though if I recall correctly it was a 50-50 kick to begin with.

Melloblkmon
26 Aug 2002, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by geordienation
By 2006 he will have eaten all the pies, so it's possible.

:D

That's cold!!! Fat Tony is still getting it done in MLS and who knows if Bruce will even be the coach then???