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kopiteinkc
26 Apr 2003, 06:08 PM
Wildman

During our Michael Owen debate you set a target for Michael Owen this season.

I can't remember exactly what the target was now, but I believe it was surpassed today.

Care to grovel on here and ask for forgiveness and beg for mercy or at least acknowledge Owen's brilliance :)

Yours in Red,

Lots of Kopites

Wildman262
26 Apr 2003, 11:49 PM
Kopiteinkc, I was saying that I'd like to see Owen score at least 20 Premiership goals (he has 19 league goals now).

I've always acknowledged Owen is a terrific and brilliantly skilled player. But, I wanted to see it in the number goals he is scoring. (he was always around 15-16 goals a year, which seemed like a number that many strikers were achieving) You have to admit, when I was first harping, he was in a slump.

I'd like nothing better for him to be the top scorer in the Premiership some day. Right now he is on a tear. I don't care if he scored 4 against already relegated West Brom, every other striker in the league has had the same chances to score 4 goals against the weaker teams.

kopiteinkc
27 Apr 2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Wildman262
Kopiteinkc, I was saying that I'd like to see Owen score at least 20 Premiership goals (he has 19 league goals now).



1 more goal it is then :)

Lanky134
27 Apr 2003, 03:16 PM
He can take pride in the fact that he inspired Owen to pick up his game.

skipshady
27 Apr 2003, 04:04 PM
Yawn. Michael Owen is no Kyle Rote Jr.

Lanky134
27 Apr 2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
Yawn. Michael Owen is no Kyle Rote Jr.
That's right. He never won Superstars twice in a row...

Wildman262
27 Apr 2003, 07:18 PM
Owen is now scoring at a pace that is befitting, if you are considered a top striker in the league. He was in a slump earlier in the year and he has roared back with a vengence.

kopiteinkc
27 Apr 2003, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Wildman262
Owen is now scoring at a pace that is befitting, if you are considered a top striker in the league. He was in a slump earlier in the year and he has roared back with a vengence.

You're missing the point, you judge someone over a whole season, not a few weeks when they don't score.

Lanky134
27 Apr 2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
You're missing the point, you judge someone over a whole season, not a few weeks when they don't score.
Exactly. RVN and Owen are the only two players to have had two hat tricks in the EPL this season. RVN has 20 goals and Owen has 19. And 7 of RVN's have been PKs, while Owen has had 2. Yet one has been considered past his prime (albeit by idiots), while the other is not.

LiverpoolFanatic
27 Apr 2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Lanky134
Exactly. RVN and Owen are the only two players to have had two hat tricks in the EPL this season. RVN has 20 goals and Owen has 19. And 7 of RVN's have been PKs, while Owen has had 2. Yet one has been considered past his prime (albeit by idiots), while the other is not.


Take note Wildman. This is an excellent post that states facts. You should try it sometime.

Lanky134
27 Apr 2003, 11:06 PM
{blushing}

Wildman262
28 Apr 2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by LiverpoolFanatic
Take note Wildman. This is an excellent post that states facts. You should try it sometime.

I only post facts. I once posted that penalties really should not count toward a players totals. Most of the time the preceeding foul would not have resulted in a goal, OR the player taking the kick is not the player that drew the foul in the first place. If it were up to me, I would not count the penalties on a players totals. I could also convert 75% of Pk's and so could many here.

Owen does not have many PK goals because he misses most of his PKs!! :) hows that for knowledge!

I did not notice that Ruud had that many PK's. What do the scoring charts look like if you subtract out all the PK's scored? I want to see who the scorers are in open play, not gifted PK's that pad a players scoring numbers.

Matt Clark
28 Apr 2003, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Wildman262
I only post facts.


Laugh? I just gave birth.

Lanky134
28 Apr 2003, 09:26 AM
Owen Lashes Out Against Wildman

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=265543&cc=5739

Michael Owen believes he is in the finest shape of his career and feels the facts prove he has had an excellent season.

Owen, whose early career was blighted by hamstring problems, has only missed two games this season because of them.

And his four goals against West Brom on Saturday took his tally for the season to 28, equalling his best ever haul.

`I am feeling fitter and stronger at this stage of the season than I ever have before,' Owen told the club's website.

`At last, it's all coming right for me again, which is the reward for all the hard work I have put in.

`To be honest, I was ready to write off the whole of this season after setting myself physical targets which had to be attained before anything else could happen. So I'm ahead of schedule.

`People claim it's been a poor season for Michael Owen due to injury. Well, I should like to point out that I've missed only two matches through the hamstring trouble, and that was some while ago.

`I've now equalled my best haul of Premiership goals in one campaign for Liverpool, with two games still to go. I'm on an overall total of 28, and that also equals my highest for the club.'

The 23-year-old added: `Everything is on the up and up. And when you mix in the fact that last summer I was at the World Cup Finals, which severely restricted any holiday, then I believe there is every reason to feel optimistic.

`Despite a couple of England fixtures in early June, I reckon I can pinch at least one month's rest this summer which should stand me in extremely good stead.'

Meanwhile, Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann has pulled out of the Germany squad for Wednesday's friendly international against Serbia and Montenegro after sustaining an ankle injury in the 6-0 win at West Brom.

kopiteinkc
28 Apr 2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Lanky134
Owen Lashes Out Against Wildman



LOL :)

liverbird
28 Apr 2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
LOL :) Double LOFL

Wildman262
28 Apr 2003, 11:45 AM
It was good to see that Owen had an injury free season.

Flying Weasel
28 Apr 2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Lanky134
Owen Lashes Out Against Wildman

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=265543&cc=5739 I wonder if Mikey lurks on these boards? ;)

Lanky134
28 Apr 2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Flying Weasel
I wonder if Mikey lurks on these boards? ;)
I wonder if Wildman is his sockpuppet and he just has a wicked sense of humor.

LiverpoolFanatic
28 Apr 2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Wildman262
I only post facts.

Strictly speaking I suppose that is true because a fact is something that can be proved or disproved. Unfortunately for us and ultimately yourself, your facts almost exclusively fall into the disproven category.