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PKchoppa
12 Jan 2007, 10:32 PM
the spurs mangaer guy scares me:( , which club has a good history?

spur73
12 Jan 2007, 10:40 PM
Thats a good thing.
Go for spurs, you now it makes sense

Joedogsweetman
13 Jan 2007, 04:55 AM
Yes, because Arsenal and Celtic are random. :rolleyes:

Actually I became a Celtic fan due to Henrik Larrsson. Arsenal came about due to Henry and Ljunberg. That and they are my best friend's team. But in other sports I have randomly picked up on teams and have followed them. Case in point: The Oregon Ducks, Detroit Lions, Boston Red Sox, Seattle Seahawks, Utah Jazz & New York Knicks. All random in how I began following them.:D :confused:

Bashizzi
13 Jan 2007, 05:02 AM
Man Utd, they are the best team in the world...I suppose

PKchoppa
13 Jan 2007, 05:21 AM
MAN UTD my fren trialed for that club infact hes there right now... i dont like rooney :eek: he looks pretty angry in the WC and the game against West ham.... C RONALDO KICKS ASS IS MY FAV PLAYER:D

jddphd
13 Jan 2007, 08:13 AM
MAN UTD my fren trialed for that club infact hes there right now... i dont like rooney :eek: he looks pretty angry in the WC and the game against West ham.... C RONALDO KICKS ASS IS MY FAV PLAYER:D

OK there you go - two great reasons to support United. Your friend bollocks.

Tima
13 Jan 2007, 09:18 AM
Our mega rich chairman hardly supports us. So if he disappears it might help us improve the club.

When he took over you were in the 4th tier of English football and he spent huge amounts to get you to the top league. Marlet cost £11m which is a ridiculous amount to spend on a player for a club with such a small ground. He seems to have stopped putting money in now though but it's probably the best it's been at any point in Fulham's history.

MasterShake29
13 Jan 2007, 11:39 AM
When he took over you were in the 4th tier of English football and he spent huge amounts to get you to the top league. Marlet cost £11m which is a ridiculous amount to spend on a player for a club with such a small ground. He seems to have stopped putting money in now though but it's probably the best it's been at any point in Fulham's history.

He certainly spent to get us there, but what has he done lately? Clint Dempsey is probably our biggest signing in a while.

Tima
13 Jan 2007, 12:02 PM
He certainly spent to get us there, but what has he done lately? Clint Dempsey is probably our biggest signing in a while.

True but he is owed over £100m by Fulham FC! If he called in the loans Fulham would be extinct, he writes of over £5m of interest every year on these loans. Thats more personal money than most club owners put in a lifetime.

NebraskaAddick
13 Jan 2007, 12:21 PM
I'm an American, and I watched the EPL for years before deciding which club to follow.

Being that I believe loyalty is important, I had to pick my club for reasons not having to do with current player personnel. Players will come and go. They're like mercenaries. Picking a favorite club is very serious business for me, because if one is not loyal, one is not a fan, I sincerely believe, so if I pick the wrong one--too late!

So then I had to find more solid reasoning, that cannot be uprooted so easily. And those considerations are such as location, stadium, fans, history, and some kind of other intangible.

I chose Charlton, because of the fans' devotion to their home, and because of their history--their near demise, and then rebirth. I also chose them because of Maryon Park being nearby The Valley. This park was setting of important scenes in one of my favorite movies, Antonioni's "Blow-Up". That was the intangible that first led me to look at Charlton. What got me hooked was the Valley Party that got enough votes in an election so they could pressure the Greenwich Council to allow the club to move back to The Valley in 1992. They have a fascinating history full of drama. I read about Sam Bartram, and Jimmy Seed, and their 1947 FA Cup win. History is so important. It's what gives your club its persona. But you can't just look at the number of trophies, unless you're a somewhat superficial person. There has to be something else to it.

My choice of Charlton also fits my personality, too. That's another important aspect of it. I'm the kind of person who does not like to take the most common or easiest route. I like to be different, and I like the struggle. A win means more if you struggled more to get it. I don't just like football, I'm a baseball fan too, and I have been devoted to the Chicago Cubs for years. If any of you English people ever want to take a stab at following baseball, I recommend the Cubs. They have the greatest fans, the best stadium, the best neighborhood and city and the best traditions that go back to their first championship in 1876, the same year General Custer was getting massacred at Little Bighorn. And they have money to spend, though they haven't spent it well over the years. But the past doesn't always spell the future.

And I love what Charlton are doing off the pitch, their City Learning Centre, and their overseas academies, their attempts to reach out to the community to win fans back, and win new fans elsewhere (like me). They may get relegated this year, but that's something that happens in sport. You have to roll with the punches.

You never know, some day hydrogen fuel cells might replace fuel combustion engines, and oil prices will fall through the floor, and some rich oil guy may not have any more funds for new players. It's something that happens. So you can't base your decision on current fortunes on the pitch, because it's all temporary anyway.

I think long term. Do I want to always be with Charlton, win or lose? I thought long about it, and the answer is yes. As long as they exist, I'll be a Charlton supporter. I'm looking forward to one day being able to visit SE7, once I get my finances in order. Sure, I'll see the Tower of London, Buckingham Palace, and all that, but as soon as I get off the plane I'm making a beeline to The Valley, or a pub nearby.

monstermunch
13 Jan 2007, 02:18 PM
Charlton are a damn good club to support. Their football in the community stuff is great, there's a real family feel about the club, they lower ticket prices when games are on TV and they held the record for highest league attendence for years and years, during the 1930s they'd pull 75,000 people to the Valley. Incredible to think that now. And they're situated in a rather unglamourous area of South London.

I like Charlton, hope they can stay up this year. The Prem would seem wrong without them now.

pookspur
13 Jan 2007, 08:32 PM
agreed about charlton athletic. i'd often read about how they're a 'friendly club', and i really wasn't sure what that meant. but when i needed a ticket to man u at the valley last year (a 'members/season ticket-holders only' match), i found out. i won't go into details, but they were helpful well beyond what you would expect pursuant to the sale of one ticket.

the valley's nice, too.

shame about the football. :p ;)

Bashizzi
14 Jan 2007, 01:43 AM
I think long term. Do I want to always be with Charlton, win or lose? I thought long about it, and the answer is yes. As long as they exist, I'll be a Charlton supporter.



Neb-Addict :) I admire your optimism, I have supported ManU for most of my life and through the thick (Rooney) and thin (Chadwick), Ive always stood by them... but the fact remains that Charlton need to concentrate more on the pitch and get some quality in there if they want to stay afloat.

PKchoppa
14 Jan 2007, 03:45 AM
I'm an American, and I watched the EPL for years before deciding which club to follow.

Being that I believe loyalty is important, I had to pick my club for reasons not having to do with current player personnel. Players will come and go. They're like mercenaries. Picking a favorite club is very serious business for me, because if one is not loyal, one is not a fan, I sincerely believe, so if I pick the wrong one--too late!

So then I had to find more solid reasoning, that cannot be uprooted so easily. And those considerations are such as location, stadium, fans, history, and some kind of other intangible.

I chose Charlton, because of the fans' devotion to their home, and because of their history--their near demise, and then rebirth. I also chose them because of Maryon Park being nearby The Valley. This park was setting of important scenes in one of my favorite movies, Antonioni's "Blow-Up". That was the intangible that first led me to look at Charlton. What got me hooked was the Valley Party that got enough votes in an election so they could pressure the Greenwich Council to allow the club to move back to The Valley in 1992. They have a fascinating history full of drama. I read about Sam Bartram, and Jimmy Seed, and their 1947 FA Cup win. History is so important. It's what gives your club its persona. But you can't just look at the number of trophies, unless you're a somewhat superficial person. There has to be something else to it.

My choice of Charlton also fits my personality, too. That's another important aspect of it. I'm the kind of person who does not like to take the most common or easiest route. I like to be different, and I like the struggle. A win means more if you struggled more to get it. I don't just like football, I'm a baseball fan too, and I have been devoted to the Chicago Cubs for years. If any of you English people ever want to take a stab at following baseball, I recommend the Cubs. They have the greatest fans, the best stadium, the best neighborhood and city and the best traditions that go back to their first championship in 1876, the same year General Custer was getting massacred at Little Bighorn. And they have money to spend, though they haven't spent it well over the years. But the past doesn't always spell the future.

And I love what Charlton are doing off the pitch, their City Learning Centre, and their overseas academies, their attempts to reach out to the community to win fans back, and win new fans elsewhere (like me). They may get relegated this year, but that's something that happens in sport. You have to roll with the punches.

You never know, some day hydrogen fuel cells might replace fuel combustion engines, and oil prices will fall through the floor, and some rich oil guy may not have any more funds for new players. It's something that happens. So you can't base your decision on current fortunes on the pitch, because it's all temporary anyway.

I think long term. Do I want to always be with Charlton, win or lose? I thought long about it, and the answer is yes. As long as they exist, I'll be a Charlton supporter. I'm looking forward to one day being able to visit SE7, once I get my finances in order. Sure, I'll see the Tower of London, Buckingham Palace, and all that, but as soon as I get off the plane I'm making a beeline to The Valley, or a pub nearby.


holy cow how long did it take u to write tht... was insipring tho...

Bashizzi
14 Jan 2007, 04:17 AM
Yo! PK....u had to 'quote' the whole damn thing...:p

No offense Neb ..its a wonderful insight into Charlton. Loads of things I didn't know.

musicl
14 Jan 2007, 08:06 AM
Charton are nothing, never won anything, only got into the prem a while ago. You would be mad to support them.

[QUOTE=PKchoppa;10420805]which club has a good history?[QUOTE]

Spurs!! First British team to win a european trophey, first side to win the double. They have gone through about 15 years of underachievement. They are the great underachievers of the prem. But they will rise soon. Current team is very good, give Jol time and he will make them top 4.

Other clubs with good history, Arsenal, Man Utd, Leeds, AV.

NebraskaAddick
14 Jan 2007, 10:53 AM
Charton are nothing, never won anything, only got into the prem a while ago. You would be mad to support them.

[QUOTE=PKchoppa;10420805]which club has a good history?[QUOTE]

Spurs!! First British team to win a european trophey, first side to win the double. They have gone through about 15 years of underachievement. They are the great underachievers of the prem. But they will rise soon. Current team is very good, give Jol time and he will make them top 4.

Other clubs with good history, Arsenal, Man Utd, Leeds, AV.

Oh, so if I picked Leeds, I wouldn't be in a straightjacket by now? "Oh, they have a good history" will not alleviate much of the consternation a Leeds fan is experiencing now.

Charlton have a history. Just not one full of trophies. But they have a colorful history. And the best theme song, too.

But what matters also is the future, and I think Charlton are now doing things right, long term. Eventually they'll have a 40,000-plus capacity stadium, one way or another.

lanman
14 Jan 2007, 12:35 PM
Spurs!!......first side to win the double.

Third side to do that actually.

musicl
14 Jan 2007, 01:08 PM
Oh, so if I picked Leeds, I wouldn't be in a straightjacket by now? "Oh, they have a good history" will not alleviate much of the consternation a Leeds fan is experiencing now.

Charlton have a history. Just not one full of trophies. But they have a colorful history. And the best theme song, too.

But what matters also is the future, and I think Charlton are now doing things right, long term. Eventually they'll have a 40,000-plus capacity stadium, one way or another.Leeds are a bigger club than Charlton, always have been always will be.
Charlton colourful history, no, not compared to Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool etc.
Oh great, Charlton will become another club were a quarter of the seats are empty...
Charlton are a small club with few fans and will never win anything. End of story.

lanman talking about they were first in the modern era of football.

Bluebirds Boyo
14 Jan 2007, 06:27 PM
If he's American, I think you are technically encouraging him to support Swansea. Are you comfortable with this?
Plymouth and Torquay are closer Football League clubs to America.

And I was clearly talking about a Major League Soccer club.