L' Election Présidentielle 2007 / French Presidential Election [R]

[Pierre-Henri]

Thanks for the rest. I find French politics fascinating.

http://www.rue-des-puzzles.com/prod/img2461.jpg

[Douai]

http://www.rue-des-puzzles.com/prod/img2461.jpg

Heh. Astérix :D .

[Douai]

Is it true that Roland Goguillot, one of the FN founders, was a collaborationist?

[guignol]

lutte ouvrière is a party i'm somewhat familiar with. The are very active on the grassroots level in the automobile industry and the feuile de chou they hand out in front of the factory where i work which is a superb miniature of LO itself. the front page is arlette's little speech, the back page consists of blurbs specific to life on our shop floor.

recto... arlette laguillère whom everyone knows. polite, charming... i remember seeing here years ago on a meet the press kind of show called l'heure de vérité, she was superb. if you are at all interested in social justice or feel any compunction about 98% of the world's wealth ending up in 2% of the world's pockets, her statements are concise, coherent and compelling. (btw, she's a bank employee, just as besancenot is a postman)

verso... no one knows who gets the inside poop from our workshops or writes it down. it's the same little man who hands it out every other tuesday and collects contributions 3 or 4 times a year (in a red flag) but beyond that?? for LO on a grand scale it's the same. who really runs the party? arlette is only the spokesperson. the founder (or re-founder, since the party was dissolved on degaulle's order after may '68) is the mysterious robert barcia but the real organization is more secret than al-qaida!

here are two links (in french)... you can see that the wiki article is protected, something rare enough to elicit questions in itself.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutte_ouvri%C3%A8re

http://politique.fluctuat.net/lutte-ouvriere.html

[Douai]

arlette is only the spokesperson. the founder (or re-founder, since the party was dissolved on degaulle's order after may '68) is the mysterious robert barcia but the real organization is more secret than al-qaida!


Any idea why it is so secretive?Is it because LO is far-left?

http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/politiques/elections2007/_files/file_242458_117867.jpg
PIC from REUTERS
"PARIS, 21 mars (Reuters) - Jacques Chirac a annoncé mercredi
qu'il apporterait son vote et son soutien à Nicolas Sarkozy,
candidat de l'UMP à l'élection présidentielle."
http://www.france24.com/france24Public/fr/nouvelles/monde/20070321-chirac-sarkozy.html

[Lensois]

Le Pen's program is completely incoherent. In many fields, he's proposing things that clearly contradict each others. Left, right, he mixes everything, no matter how meaningless it is.

Not really that uncommon, it's a version of Latin American populism.

[Douai]

"Les sénateurs PS livrent 48 pages d'arguments anti-Bayrou"
"PARIS (Reuters) - Le groupe "riposte" des sénateurs socialistes, animé par Jean-Luc Mélenchon, a adressé 48 pages d'argumentaire anti-Bayrou aux parlementaires et fédérations du PS."

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0,39-30236209@7-354,0.html

"M. Le Pen pas pressé de se retirer de la vie politique"
"Le candidat FN à la présidentielle Jean-Marie Le Pen a expliqué jeudi aux internautes participant à une discussion en ligne sur le site du Monde qu'il n'était pas pressé de se retirer de la vie politique, n'excluant pas d'être à nouveau candidat à la présidentielle 2012."

http://www.france24.com/france24Public/fr/administration/article-afp.html?id=070322184601.og2wdrp4&cat=france

[Anthony]

http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/politiques/elections2007/_files/file_242458_117867.jpg

That is a classic picture.

[Douai]

Sondage: Présidentielle 2007-1er Tour
Nicholas Sarkozy (UMP) 26%
Ségolène Royal (PS) 26%
François Bayrou (UDF) 21%
Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN) 13%

Second Tour
Nicholas Sarkozy (UMP) 50%
Ségolène Royal (PS) 50%

Source: Soir 3 (France 3) et http://elections.france3.fr/presidentielles/2007/actu/29380607-fr.php

[Anthony]

Sondage: Présidentielle 2007-1er Tour
Nicholas Sarkozy (UMP) 26%
Ségolène Royal (PS) 26%
François Bayrou (UDF) 21%
Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN) 13%

Second Tour
Nicholas Sarkozy (UMP) 50%
Ségolène Royal (PS) 50%


So I take it Chirac's endorsement has cost Sarkozy some votes.

[ilv2]

hah maybe. it's crazy i had a dream last night that Chirac actually reversed his decision and said he would be a candidate because he loves Niko so much...
scary.

Sego is playing the nationalism card: "I think that all french should have the tricolor flag in their home... It's necessary to reconquer these national symbols and at the same time carry a new regard towards the nation's values (talking about nationalism and the extreme right):
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-823448,36-887281@51-822961,0.html


Bayrou ripostes, "The overseas territories represent a chance for France... We must prevent this campaign from deteriorating into a debate over the themes of immigration and of the nation [i.e. a narrow focus only on France metropolitan]"
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0,39-30251454@7-37,0.html

[Douai]

"La polémique sur l'identité nationale enfle, entre M. Sarkozy, M. Bayrou et Mme Royal"

"Chaque citoyen doit "honorer son pays", mais "pas dans la névrose perpétuelle de l'identité", a déclaré François Bayrou samedi 24 mars, en réaction à la proposition de Ségolène Royal que les Français aient chez eux le drapeau tricolore et l'exposent aux fenêtres le jour de la fête nationale. Les trois candidats en tête des sondages sont à couteaux tirés sur la question de l'identité nationale."

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-823448,36-887334,0.html

[ilv2]

and most certainly related to the topic of nationalism raised above, is the question over what actions the government will do to comprehend and/or address the cites and banlieues

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-823448,36-887450@51-887539,0.html

[Douai]

"Bayrou tance Sarkozy et Royal sur "l'engrenage" nationaliste"
"PARIS (Reuters) - François Bayrou a dénoncé à nouveau dimanche la surenchère nationaliste de Nicolas Sarkozy et de Ségolène Royal, soulignant qu'aucun président de la Ve République n'a jamais mis le petit doigt dans cet engrenage."

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0,39-30264082@7-354,0.html

[Douai]

http://www.france24.com/france24Public/fr/nouvelles/france/20070326-Sarkozy-depart-ministere-de-l-Interieur/f24NewsHeaderParagraph/image/20070326-sarko-byebye_m.jpg
" Sarkozy : "me voilà libre d'aller vers les français"
"PARIS, 26 mars 2007 (AFP) - Nicolas Sarkozy, le ministre sortant de l'Intérieur, a quitté lundi la Place Beauvau en revendiquant désormais une pleine liberté de mouvement à la rencontre des Français, dans un discours très politique où il a invoqué "l'ordre", "les valeurs" et "la fermeté"."

http://www.france24.com/france24Public/fr/nouvelles/france/20070326-Sarkozy-depart-ministere-de-l-Interieur.html

[Douai]

Sondage: Présidentielle 2007-1er Tour (latest)
Nicholas Sarkozy (UMP) 27%
Ségolène Royal (PS) 27%
François Bayrou (UDF) 20%
Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN) 13%

Second Tour
Nicholas Sarkozy (UMP) 51%
Ségolène Royal (PS) 49%

Source: Soir 3 (France 3)
http://jt.france3.fr/soir3/

[Pierre-Henri]

One of those stupid quizzes.

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/vi/0,47-0@2-823448,54-885760,0.html

If you can read french, the whole of "Le Monde" site is pretty well done. Everything you wanted to know about Frédéric Nihous but were afraid to ask !

[Nanbawan]

Everything you wanted to know about Frédéric Nihous but were afraid to ask !

...but did not even wonder in the first place...:D

[Anthony]

...but did not even wonder in the first place...:D

Who is he?

[Douai]

Who is he?
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10997299&postcount=132




http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/politiques/elections2007/_files/file_243753_65637.jpg
"Le ministre de l’Emploi, Jean-Louis Borloo, a accordé mardi son soutien à Nicolas Sarkozy pour l’élection présidentielle du mois prochain."

http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/politiques/elections2007/243753.FR.php