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beineke
02 Aug 2002, 12:44 PM
Saw this on the Quakes board:
http://www.bayer04.de/en/1407.htm

According to Bayer's site, LD returns to Leverkusen on November 1st. Also, Hejduk is available "if someone tables a good offer."

BuffloSoldier
02 Aug 2002, 12:46 PM
That's from July 14th. Old news, really.

Hejduk doesn't have any buyers.

Donovan still is putting up the "staying here" sign, but things could get going officially since MLS, Bayer and Motkzin meet up this weekend.

pething101
02 Aug 2002, 12:57 PM
In this transfer market, one has to wonder if anyone is going anywhere. Would love to see Frankie get some pt but that looks like a pipe dream at the moment.

TravisMinor_23
02 Aug 2002, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by beineke
Also, Hejduk is available "if someone tables a good offer."

Earlier this year Bayer had stated that Hejduk, along with a few other players were avalible for free transfer, I doubt anything has changed....the "tables a good offer" thing is interesting. Bottom line is Bayer wants out of Hejduk's contract and I don't think at this stage in his career Hejduk would move for a significantly lower salary even if it came with playing time.

kasai
02 Aug 2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by TravisMinor_23


Earlier this year Bayer had stated that Hejduk, along with a few other players were avalible for free transfer, I doubt anything has changed....the "tables a good offer" thing is interesting. Bottom line is Bayer wants out of Hejduk's contract and I don't think at this stage in his career Hejduk would move for a significantly lower salary even if it came with playing time.

I agree, Frankie wants to make his money now, so he won't take a big paycut to go somewhere else. I think he should stick it out another year at Bayer and then look for a transfer. He will have made enough in Germany to hold him off for many years to come.

Eisern Union
03 Aug 2002, 10:27 AM
Interesting article in the Berliner Zeitung on Thursday (they run a story on LD about once a week). More or less said that he hates Germany, not just Leverkusen (he was quoted as saying 'Germany isn't the friendliest place in the world').

Goose was also quoted saying that the agent he found him a deal in Germany was 'no longer his friend' and that he didn't like 'fighting every day for a spot on the team'.

Sannah relayed a story about a friend of his who came to Hertha practice in the middle of winter on a frozen pitch and therefore eased up on his tackles (not wanting to hurt someone when he's only a geust). The Hertha coach asked Sannah later if 'his friend is a sissy.'

Lalas also quoted (and named America's first soccer star) saying that Europe was good for him, but it isn't right for a lot of Americans.

The gist of the story was that German soccer is hard work, and a lot of Americans who have come to Germany have not liked having to work that hard (Agoos held up as exhibit number one). It was not explicitely stated, but the connotation is clearly that LD doesn't have to work ethic for German soccer and that his 'quality of life' and 'team environment' arguments are a reflection of this.

I don't really agree with the story. There may be an element of working very hard combined with not getting anywhere that is weighing on LD. It was an interesting analysis nonetheless.

Ringo
03 Aug 2002, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Eisern Union
Interesting article in the Berliner Zeitung on Thursday (they run a story on LD about once a week). More or less said that he hates Germany, not just Leverkusen (he was quoted as saying 'Germany isn't the friendliest place in the world').

Do you have a link?

Eisern Union
04 Aug 2002, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by Ringo1725


Do you have a link?

Well, the paper's sitting on my kitchen counter. I can look for a link, but no promises.

Dandal
04 Aug 2002, 07:44 AM
I found the article at http://www.berlinonline.de/suche/.bin/mark.cgi/aktuelles/berliner_zeitung/sport/.html/164048.html?keywords=donovan%20landon. But if your german is less than perfect, I think Eisern Union's summary gives you all you need to know.

By the way, is Union Berlin the second division eastern team that played the cup final last year? How are they doing?

Lab Mouse
04 Aug 2002, 08:33 AM
"Wenn sie mich wollen, muessen sie mich schon holen." (If they want me, they are going to have to come and get me. [loose translation])

That's a telltale quote.

Very interesting article--gave me a chance to exercise my newspaper German, which doesn't happen often these days.

It's not like there will be a deal announced much before the end of the MLS season, either. I'm not exactly waiting with baited breath here. He's got a season to finish and he's eager to see it through.

olafgb
04 Aug 2002, 11:14 AM
Today on www.bundesliga.de:

LEVERKUSEN IS FIGHTING FOR DONOVAN

The return of US national player Landon Donovan to Bayer Leverkusen remains uncertain.
Donovan, who scored one goal at the WC, is on loan to US champion San Jose Earthquakes since one year. In negotiations Bayer GM Reiner Calmund could not come to terms with Donvoan agent Richard Motzkin.
"There are serious tries to find a solution, but it's a process that still requires some time", said Motzkin. The 20 year old doesn't want to return to Germany where he didn't have a game in the pro team yet. The offence player, who also got offers by other European clubs, prefers to stay in the USA. "It's a good time for soccer players in the US. You can help that this sports grows and this is an important factor for me", says Donovan.

Rowdie
04 Aug 2002, 11:19 AM
He's 20, and he refuses to leave so adamantly. My take is that he's got a girlfriend that he doesnt want to leave behind.

That's the way it seems to me anyway.

Lab Mouse
04 Aug 2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by olafgb
Today on www.bundesliga.de:

LEVERKUSEN IS FIGHTING FOR DONOVAN

The return of US national player Landon Donovan to Bayer Leverkusen remains uncertain.
Donovan, who scored one goal at the WC, is on loan to US champion San Jose Earthquakes since one year. In negotiations Bayer GM Reiner Calmund could not come to terms with Donvoan agent Richard Motzkin.
"There are serious tries to find a solution, but it's a process that still requires some time", said Motzkin. The 20 year old doesn't want to return to Germany where he didn't have a game in the pro team yet. The offence player, who also got offers by other European clubs, prefers to stay in the USA. "It's a good time for soccer players in the US. You can help that this sports grows and this is an important factor for me", says Donovan.

I thought they were negotiating with Ilja Kaezig (sp?) since Calmund has been moved out of that original position he was in. That's according to ESPN Soccernet anyhow.

todda74
04 Aug 2002, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Rowdie
He's 20, and he refuses to leave so adamantly. My take is that he's got a girlfriend that he doesnt want to leave behind.

That's the way it seems to me anyway.

I think Britney has enough money to buy her own house in Germany so they won't be apart.

MarioKempes
05 Aug 2002, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Eisern Union

Sannah relayed a story about a friend of his who came to Hertha practice in the middle of winter on a frozen pitch and therefore eased up on his tackles (not wanting to hurt someone when he's only a geust). The Hertha coach asked Sannah later if 'his friend is a sissy.'


Tony should be very happy he's not at Hertha.
The coach is a genius. ;)

olafgb
05 Aug 2002, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by MarioKempes


Tony should be very happy he's not at Hertha.
The coach is a genius. ;)

Hertha got a different coach meanwhile, but Tony should be happy nonetheless as he wouldn't see playing time in Berlin.


Regarding Donovan kicker today just mentions that the negotiations were stopped without any result.

olafgb
05 Aug 2002, 06:13 AM
Another Donovan/Bayer article on www.transfermarkt.de. Excerpt:


Donovan agent Richard Motzkin is negotiating with Bayer's GMs Ilja Kaenzig and Reiner Calmund. Kaenzig: "We want the best solution for everyone. We can't exclude that Donovan stays in the USA a bit longer. The player still shall develop. Everything is possible".

Eisern Union
05 Aug 2002, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by olafgb
Another Donovan/Bayer article on www.transfermarkt.de. Excerpt:


Donovan agent Richard Motzkin is negotiating with Bayer's GMs Ilja Kaenzig and Reiner Calmund. Kaenzig: "We want the best solution for everyone. We can't exclude that Donovan stays in the USA a bit longer. The player still shall develop. Everything is possible".

Interesting, looks like the first indication thus far of anyone giving any ground. Complete speculation: with other MLS players begging to get to Europe and Donovan begging to stay, wouldn't some sort of swap deal make a whole lot of sense?

Dandal: Union did make the DFB Cup final two years ago, losing to Schalke. They look poised for a mid table finish in the second division this year. Decent team, but a nobody who can score.

GersMan
05 Aug 2002, 03:31 PM
If he went to Leverkeusen now it's hard to imagine him playing very much.

whirlwind
05 Aug 2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by olafgb
Today on www.bundesliga.de:

LEVERKUSEN IS FIGHTING FOR DONOVAN

Donovan, who scored one goal at the WC,

Officially, he scored two. Realistically, he scored three (Poland.) Optimistically, he scored four (off the Portuguese defender's head.)