"He whose name shall never be spoken" Is he vindicated?

[Levante]

Last night on Televisa, there was a Q&A session with Enrique Meza. He seems to be the toast of Mexican footie at the moment, and with good reason. As you all know, Pachuca became the first Mexican team to win a copa in a South American tournament.

It was a GREAT show. The guy fully showed his true character and what struck me the most, is that he not only accepted the wins, but he also accepted the losses. For example, a young boy asked him the question, "Algun dia quiere dirigir el equipo nacional."

And he answered, "Ya lo dirigi mijito, y me fue muy mal." He then went on to talk about how he got the position, on why he failed, and that he truly appreciated that Aguirre dedicated the World Cup classification to his family(Meza's family). His failure was that he was just not NT material. He was too nice to keep out his favorites (Victor Ruiz, Castro) and the players just didn't respond to him.
Nevertheless, what's done is done...and with Pachuca's latest title, are we the Bigsoccer Mexico forum community ready to vindicate him?


If you can catch this Q&A, watch the whole thing:
He even went on to quote Vince Lombardi on one of the quesitons.

[el mofles]

I always thought "the name who shall never be spoken" thing was somewhat harsh on the BigSoccer board who seemed to be the only ones that upset :). Though the "y me fue muy mal." quote maybe a bit of an understatement.


Certaintly on club level the whole "is he washed up?" controversy in Mexico has been put to rest, but on a worldwide scale I think the previous damage done far outweighs this Copa Sudamericana win. Aside from Mexican press I don't see the due credit coming from other places and his name being revindicated. The emphasis always kept coming back to how the players like Alvarez being better rather than the strategy that was effective to win on the road in a stadium 99.9% against you in horrible field conditions comparable to the T&T cricket field (granted that may have actually helped Pachuca in this case).

In his NT years he made the team look not bad, but horribly bad not just in the Americas but all across the globe. Two examples I specifically keep thinking about are those Confederations Cup losses and that humiliating friendly loss against England. Aside from the three countries of England, Mexico and U.S. I have a feeling this game (for the reason of 12 o'clock Pacific Time Zone kick off) was broadcast in countries in Asia who simply love the EPL and the English side and also nearby European countries, other U.K countries and Canada.

In both instances note that not only did the world get a wrong impression of the Mexican quality of play but of the whole Concacaf region as well. If this was the regions best then the whole CONCACAF was a joke, well it is but that's supposed to be an in house secret. :)

Sure it was a friendly and what the hell has England done recently, but really did their fans in the stadium and the press have to start giving each other oral not even 20 minutes before the game has ended calling the game a complete mismatch ?:D Hey it looked good on paper a year before when the contract was signed, but did anyone know come game time one of the worst coaches in the Mexican NT saga would be at the helm looking as docile as can be as his players sported a lost look on their face and kept getting knocked off their butts with the most sterile of challenges.

But the one thing that perhaps will always dog him and keep tainting his record (unless he gets another shot ) and make your blood rise a few degrees is how he let some of the more undisciplined NT player completely walk all over him. The stories coming out of his national team camps harkened back to the days of old when you hear of players waking up hungover as hell, smoking during halftime and hookers running amok in the hotel corridors. It also seemed like the players were almost more interested in taking those famous shopping trips than getting some training done.

[LMvCP]

I am have looking for that interfiew (foro) with Ojitos Meza. They never posted it on the Noticiero TD.

Does anyone know where I can get it? I would subscribe to Esmas TV since you can view every show from the previous 3 weeks... but I cant since I am based in the US.

[Levante]

I always thought "the name who shall never be spoken" thing was somewhat harsh on the BigSoccer board who seemed to be the only ones that upset :). Though the "y me fue muy mal." quote maybe a bit of an understatement.


Certaintly on club level the whole "is he washed up?" controversy in Mexico has been put to rest, but on a worldwide scale I think the previous damage done far outweighs this Copa Sudamericana win. Aside from Mexican press I don't see the due credit coming from other places and his name being revindicated. The emphasis always kept coming back to how the players like Alvarez being better rather than the strategy that was effective to win on the road in a stadium 99.9% against you in horrible field conditions comparable to the T&T cricket field (granted that may have actually helped Pachuca in this case).

In his NT years he made the team look not bad, but horribly bad not just in the Americas but all across the globe. Two examples I specifically keep thinking about are those Confederations Cup losses and that humiliating friendly loss against England. Aside from the three countries of England, Mexico and U.S. I have a feeling this game (for the reason of 12 o'clock Pacific Time Zone kick off) was broadcast in countries in Asia who simply love the EPL and the English side and also nearby European countries, other U.K countries and Canada.

In both instances note that not only did the world get a wrong impression of the Mexican quality of play but of the whole Concacaf region as well. If this was the regions best then the whole CONCACAF was a joke, well it is but that's supposed to be an in house secret. :)

Sure it was a friendly and what the hell has England done recently, but really did their fans in the stadium and the press have to start giving each other oral not even 20 minutes before the game has ended calling the game a complete mismatch ?:D Hey it looked good on paper a year before when the contract was signed, but did anyone know come game time one of the worst coaches in the Mexican NT saga would be at the helm looking as docile as can be as his players sported a lost look on their face and kept getting knocked off their butts with the most sterile of challenges.

But the one thing that perhaps will always dog him and keep tainting his record (unless he gets another shot ) and make your blood rise a few degrees is how he let some of the more undisciplined NT player completely walk all over him. The stories coming out of his national team camps harkened back to the days of old when you hear of players waking up hungover as hell, smoking during halftime and hookers running amok in the hotel corridors. It also seemed like the players were almost more interested in taking those famous shopping trips than getting some training done.

It's funny that you mention about the England friendly and how horrible we looked. In the interview, Meza spoke that he loved the Premier League. In fact, on his down time, he takes trips out to England to catch some live action.

I wonder if he loved the Premier before or after that raping?

[Levante]

I am have looking for that interfiew (foro) with Ojitos Meza. They never posted it on the Noticiero TD.

Does anyone know where I can get it? I would subscribe to Esmas TV since you can view every show from the previous 3 weeks... but I cant since I am based in the US.

Any luck?

[LMvCP]

Any luck?

no luck, I have not been able to view the interview?

if anybody has it, please do show