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luvdagame
21 Dec 2006, 02:26 PM
twellman hasn't recovered sufficiently from hernia surgery, so eddie gets a shot (undeserved, i feel). but he has the goods to make good on his umpteenth chance - i'm hoping!!

http://www.soccernewengland.com/articles/view_article.php?id=2317

CommonSense
21 Dec 2006, 02:34 PM
IMHO Eddie looked solid his very few minutes played in the WC.

While his club form has been atrocious, his NT form has usually been quite solid when healthy.

It would be very nice to find Eddie back in form 2010.

Scotty
21 Dec 2006, 04:29 PM
IMHO Eddie looked solid his very few minutes played in the WC.



Solid? Even that might be an exaggeration.

He provided a bit of a spark against the Czechs, but I still don't remembering him getting anything on target. And against Ghana he looked about as threatening as a butterfly.

Oh well, it's not like we have an embarassment of riches to choose from up top. Let's just hope he doesn't wreck the camp atmosphere.

garbaggio
21 Dec 2006, 04:51 PM
It would be very nice to find Eddie back in form 2010.


Or earlier.

Indoor Recess
21 Dec 2006, 04:57 PM
Danny Califf and Todd Dunivant have also been called into camp.

http://www.yanks-abroad.com/content.php?mode=news&id=2557

ugaaccountant
21 Dec 2006, 05:01 PM
So my interpretation given this new knowledge is that Bradley is thinking of the following depth chart:

Donovan - listed as a forward on the release
Ching - Bradley singled him out as someone he wanted to see
Twellman - called in even with potential injury slowdown
Rolfe, Cooper, Jaqua, Alecko - Other original call ins
Johnson - first replacement
Cunningham and Razov - appear to be too old in his opinion as their production last year was above most of this group objectively (goals/assists)and very competitive subjectively imo.

m vann
21 Dec 2006, 05:41 PM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here so please don't flame me. This is just a hypothetical. What if Bradley knew Twellman was gonna be unavailable and named him away. But all along Bradley had the intention of bringing Eddie in, he just didn't officially name him. Thus, he was making as statement to Eddie, no one's place is safe and you must work for it. Motivation via reverse psychology, if you will. I know, I know this is crazy thinking and its probably not true, I just threw it out! :D Nonetheless, I hope not being named orginally does provide a spark to Eddie and his focus is there. He's too good of a talent to let slip.

GalaxyOne
21 Dec 2006, 06:31 PM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here so please don't flame me. This is just a hypothetical. What if Bradley knew Twellman was gonna be unavailable and named him away. But all along Bradley had the intention of bringing Eddie in, he just didn't officially name him. Thus, he was making as statement to Eddie, no one's place is safe and you must work for it. Motivation via reverse psychology, if you will. I know, I know this is crazy thinking and its probably not true, I just threw it out! :D Nonetheless, I hope not being named orginally does provide a spark to Eddie and his focus is there. He's too good of a talent to let slip.

I don't think that's crazy at all. I don't know Bradley enough to know whether he would do something like that, but I think it's a fine idea. That's the kind of tactic of a sharp coach, I think.

tab5g
21 Dec 2006, 06:37 PM
Johnson is now "eddie", per this thread title.

so long Pope, Lewis, Gaven?

either way, i don't know if not being named orginally does provide a spark for GAM, but it seems like a silly ploy (if it was one) and probably won't have noticeable results.

EJ is what he is as a player. he's an athlete who likely has a much brighter future with the USMNT than the other two recent additons to camp, Danny Califf and Todd Dunivant.

TimB4Last
21 Dec 2006, 07:20 PM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here so please don't flame me. This is just a hypothetical. What if Bradley knew Twellman was gonna be unavailable and named him away. But all along Bradley had the intention of bringing Eddie in, he just didn't officially name him. Thus, he was making as statement to Eddie, no one's place is safe and you must work for it. Motivation via reverse psychology, if you will. I know, I know this is crazy thinking and its probably not true, I just threw it out! :D Nonetheless, I hope not being named orginally does provide a spark to Eddie and his focus is there. He's too good of a talent to let slip.

We kicked this idea around for quite a while today on the camp roster thread, starting here:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=452545&page=33

AndyMead
21 Dec 2006, 08:33 PM
Uh. It's a "get to know each other - show me what you got" camp.

I wouldn't try to read any "depth chart" out of it at all.

Seriously. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

So my interpretation given this new knowledge is that Bradley is thinking of the following depth chart:

Donovan - listed as a forward on the release
Ching - Bradley singled him out as someone he wanted to see
Twellman - called in even with potential injury slowdown
Rolfe, Cooper, Jaqua, Alecko - Other original call ins
Johnson - first replacement
Cunningham and Razov - appear to be too old in his opinion as their production last year was above most of this group objectively (goals/assists)and very competitive subjectively imo.

DaPrince84
21 Dec 2006, 08:39 PM
He provided a bit of a spark against the Czechs, but I still don't remembering him getting anything on target. And against Ghana he looked about as threatening as a butterfly.

he had the only shot on goal in the match...

Galaxian
21 Dec 2006, 09:09 PM
he had the only shot on goal in the match...

And it was a great shot , but he also missed a tap in from a cross right after that .

I remember we were chanting his name for him to get subbed in against Ghana , he came in , and the first thing he did was fall on his a**. Simply stunning. :)

Silva 5
21 Dec 2006, 11:15 PM
congratulation to EJ on getting called up...I really hope he gets a starting job for the Denmark game and then we go from there.

sidefootsitter
22 Dec 2006, 03:33 AM
So, what an over and under on the number of days that it'll take Peter Nowak to get into Eddie's face and subsequently send him home?

FirstStar
22 Dec 2006, 08:27 AM
So, what an over and under on the number of days that it'll take Peter Nowak to get into Eddie's face and subsequently send him home?

Ha ha.

Until someone with more talent comes along- we need to keep trying to get production out of eddie. I keep waiting for the day.

dcole
22 Dec 2006, 10:18 AM
So my interpretation given this new knowledge is that Bradley is thinking of the following depth chart:

Donovan - listed as a forward on the release
Ching - Bradley singled him out as someone he wanted to see
Twellman - called in even with potential injury slowdown
Rolfe, Cooper, Jaqua, Alecko - Other original call ins
Johnson - first replacement

This would be a logical conclusion for Eddie to draw. Somehow, I doubt that Bradley really puts Eddie behind Jaqua and Eskandrian, but maybe. I also kind of doubt that Donovan is being considered a forward. But, of course, the list above is a depth chart of the available players only. There are also guys in Europe and/or on the U-20 team that might be above EJ in the pecking order. I would posit that Altidore is a better candidate for 2010 RIGHT NOW than EJ is. Johann Smith and Charlie Davies are, at the very least, nipping at his heels as well. My sincere hope is that all of this bad news for EJ motivates him to dig in and fight. Both for a spot on the USMNT and for a ticket to Europe.

irish56
22 Dec 2006, 11:42 AM
EJ for Copa America MVP

DaPrince84
22 Dec 2006, 12:11 PM
So, what an over and under on the number of days that it'll take Peter Nowak to get into Eddie's face and subsequently send him home?
*wonders when this has happend to EJ in the USMNT in hte past*

DaMa
22 Dec 2006, 01:38 PM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here so please don't flame me. This is just a hypothetical. What if Bradley knew Twellman was gonna be unavailable and named him away. But all along Bradley had the intention of bringing Eddie in, he just didn't officially name him. Thus, he was making as statement to Eddie, no one's place is safe and you must work for it. Motivation via reverse psychology, if you will. I know, I know this is crazy thinking and its probably not true, I just threw it out! :D Nonetheless, I hope not being named orginally does provide a spark to Eddie and his focus is there. He's too good of a talent to let slip.

My exact thoughts. There is no way anything Eddie did leading right up to the WC or after the WC (other than his quick cup of coffee actually playing where he looked fast and did not score) would earn him a right to be called in. Basically its a matter of this guy just has such great physical skills that we keep giving him chances. Hopefully this last instance of, if it werent for injuries your chances would be done will serve to wake him up. If not, it may be time to officially turn our eyes to Josy.