New BVB players

[HeyaBVB]

if the club want to be in top 3, they should spent some money.
tinga the brazilian player is not what i am looking for in bvb, he is good at the moment , but i am looking for bright future.



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frei is french league best scorer in 2004-05, and also valdez was one of the best bundesliga striker in the league with bremen,,
there are good strikers, i am sure you know the problem in middlefield and how you want from a striker to score without help from the middlefield, bvb dont has henry in the squad>
all strikers miss some easy scoring chances but how many scoring chances in bvb matches<< few.
bayern has got van bommel, basti and they have problem in middlefield. they looking forward to buy middlefield player in winterbreak.
shcalke have slomka who knows how to use the players in most useful way.(they have good players)
and i dont know too much about Stuttgart and Hertha Berlin. (sorry)

i hope, after kehl return back with new coach, bvb will be in top 6>


at the end,, thanks for this discusing


Good that we don't care what YOU want from BVB ....

[footyfan1]

Good that we don't care what YOU want from BVB ....


Again, what a f#cking a$$hole response from you. What the hell is wrong with you today?

That guy only expressed his hope. A hope that is actually pretty realistic.

Do you really see this team getting that much better just because Kehl is coming back in Juergen Roeber took BvM's place??

I see them winning a few more matches, but not much else.

I'll be happy as hell if they do more than that as I'm sure this other guy will be too.

I don't know what kind of f#cking mood you are in today, but it looks like you need to stop taking it out on the people here.

Who the f#ck died and appointed you "Chief BVB Fan?" :mad:

BvB916, I apologize for these bullshit remarks to your concerns. I know I didn't give them, but I still apologize to you as another BVB fan.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with this guy today.......

[footyfan1]

1. Who' s the most useful player Dortmund bought this year?
Kringe and Amedick

Dortmund didn't buy Kringe this year. And until that Leverkusen match, Kringe had been utterly useless for over a month.

I agree on Amedick 100%

2. Who dissapointed you the most so fare?
Old Players : KRINGE
New Players : Pienaar

Frei and Valdez at least fight their asses off


For me, it would be

Old Players: Kringe

New Players: Valdez. We didn't pay 4.5M to Bremen for Valdez to "fight his ass off". We had that in Smolarek already. We paid that money for him to score goals.

[HeyaBVB]

Again, what a f#cking a$$hole response from you. What the hell is wrong with you today?

That guy only expressed his hope. A hope that is actually pretty realistic.

Do you really see this team getting that much better just because Kehl is coming back in Juergen Roeber took BvM's place??

I see them winning a few more matches, but not much else.

I'll be happy as hell if they do more than that as I'm sure this other guy will be too.

I don't know what kind of f#cking mood you are in today, but it looks like you need to stop taking it out on the people here.

Who the f#ck died and appointed you "Chief BVB Fan?" :mad:

BvB916, I apologize for these bullshit remarks to your concerns. I know I didn't give them, but I still apologize to you as another BVB fan.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with this guy today.......

He just is no real BVB Fan thats wrong with me ... I hoped we lost this Amorosolings with Dr God .... those who only care for success and not the ********ing team itself ...

[HeyaBVB]

Dortmund didn't buy Kringe this year. And until that Leverkusen match, Kringe had been utterly useless for over a month.

I agree on Amedick 100%




For me, it would be

Old Players: Kringe

New Players: Valdez. We didn't pay 4.5M to Bremen for Valdez to "fight his ass off". We had that in Smolarek already. We paid that money for him to score goals.

I mean TINGA not Kringe at the best new players .. my typo

[footyfan1]

I don't care. I'm going for this again....

Book me if you have to......




Pienaar, I definitely agree with, but what the heck has been "disappointing" about Tinga??

Tinga has been one of the best players in this first round for us. I'd f#cking hate to see where we would be without him.

Frei missed too many sitters. He should be pushing Klose and Pantelic for the league lead in goals.


i agree that tinga played better than pienaar andn some other players but what i was saying is ::: the quality of bvb players is less than it should>

amoroso said once : i am scoring because rosicky playing.
so, there arent midillfield player who can provide the ball for frei as it should be. in my view , frei will be pushing kolse only when he have a middlefiled player same quality as diego.



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Lol You are ... a hell of a BVB fan .... YOU ONLY CARE FOR PLAYERS WHO RUIN THE CLUB ..... (and I don't mean sportslike)

Tinga is what a true BVB Fan wants to see ... A GUY WHO ********ING FIGHTS HIS ASS OFF ... and not a ********ing whining diva!!


And what the f#ck is your problem today Wandi?!

You're railing at this guy like he said he prefers Amoroso to Tinga or something!!

HE SAID NO SUCH THING!!!


All he did was use a comment from Amoroso to illustrate his f#cking opinion that we need a great playmaker in midfield!!!

That's all he was f#cking saying, but here you go again whining and crying like a little bitch whenever anyone mentions the name "Amoroso"!!!

Take your f#cking crybaby bullshit somewhere else!!

I know I, for one, am just sick and tired of your whining and crying about how someone isn't a good BVB fan if they even mention the name "Amoroso"!!

Again, WHO THE F#CK DIED AND MADE YOU CHIEF BVB FAN??!!!

I know I am just sick and f#cking tired of your whining and crying like a little bitch anytime anyone brings up Amoroso! I know I'm not the only one either!!

Get the f#ck over it already!!

BvB916, once again, I apologize to you. There was nothing wrong with your comments.

"HeyaBVB" just can't get over the bullshit Amoroso pulled when he deserted the club.

[footyfan1]

He just is no real BVB Fan thats wrong with me ... I hoped we lost this Amorosolings with Dr God .... those who only care for success and not the ********ing team itself ...


You need to read his comments more closely!

He wasn't being any f#cking "Amorosoling"!

He only used a comment Amoroso made to back up his opinion that we need a better playmaking midfielder!!

I THINK YOU OWE THE GUY AN APOLOGY!!!!!

[HeyaBVB]

You need to read his comments more closely!

He wasn't being any f#cking "Amorosoling"!

He only used a comment Amoroso made to back up his opinion that we need a better playmaking midfielder!!

I THINK YOU OWE THE GUY AN APOLOGY!!!!!

I read his comments closely he is JUST one of those who ********ing didn't realized that we were nearly BANKRUPTCY and we can't JUST afford ********ING NEW EXPENSIVE PLAYERS ... so he can tell everyone he is a fan of the successfull BVB ...

I don't say sorry to someon who has no sense in tradition and courage ...

That "we won't superb players" is a virus the new fans of BVB got infected with ... Tell them about Paul Lambert and they ask "Who?"

Tell them how we loved Susi .. and they ask "Who" ....

Those are the fans I don't like .. those who don't realize that before Rosicky ... BVB was so successful because of HARDWORKING PLAYERS ...

Even "Schwalbe" Möller fought his ass off .... and thats what we are missing today .... not "Maestros" in the midfield ... we need players who kick our opponents butts ... nice guys we had enough over the years ....

[footyfan1]

I read his comments closely he is JUST one of those who ********ing didn't realized that we were nearly BANKRUPTCY and we can't JUST afford ********ING NEW EXPENSIVE PLAYERS ... so he can tell everyone he is a fan of the successfull BVB ...

I don't say sorry to someon who has no sense in tradition and courage ...

That "we won't superb players" is a virus the new fans of BVB got infected with ... Tell them about Paul Lambert and they ask "Who?"

Tell them how we loved Susi .. and they ask "Who" ....

Those are the fans I don't like .. those who don't realize that before Rosicky ... BVB was so successful because of HARDWORKING PLAYERS ...

Even "Schwalbe" Möller fought his ass off .... and thats what we are missing today .... not "Maestros" in the midfield ... we need players who kick our opponents butts ... nice guys we had enough over the years ....


Dude, now not only are you being an a§§hole, you're being a lying a$$hole.

Here are your comments to BvB916. Nowhere did you mention the club not having money to buy star players.

Lol You are ... a hell of a BVB fan .... YOU ONLY CARE FOR PLAYERS WHO RUIN THE CLUB ..... (and I don't mean sportslike)

Tinga is what a true BVB Fan wants to see ... A GUY WHO ********ING FIGHTS HIS ASS OFF ... and not a ********ing whining diva!!


You took shots at his opinion of Tinga and his mentioning of Amoroso. Nothing else! It is all right there!!

As far as accusing him of just being a fan of the "successful BVB", look, some fans just are not as goddamned informed as you or me! And when they come to places like this to get informed, they don't need to abused with such a$$hole comments as the ones you made to him!!!

Also, just because someone wants his favorite club to have success, it does NOT make them a "success fan". I think a "success fan" is a fan who doesn't even post about the team during bad times. You only see messages from them when the team is winning.

We have a few of those on our list!! I don't know one fan of the club who would not rather be winning right now. I don't care what you think, there's no f#cking nobility in cheering for a losing club. There isn't one fan of a perennial losing club who wouldn't sell his soul for his club to win just once.

You know, you always get mad when we tease you because you have never set foot in the Westfalenstadion.

I know quite a few people who consider themselves the "true BVB fans" in the Südtribune who would call you less than a true BVB fan for that!

What am I getting at? This.

It is not your f#cking place to come on these forums and accuse anyone of being anything less than a true fan! Especially when that fan is showing GENUINE CONCERN for the club, but just is not well-informed enough to know what the club actually can and cannot do.

And as a matter of fact, that guy did not call for anyone the club cannot buy or call for the club to do anything the club actually cannot do! He is here getting information and when he is trying to get that information, even if he posts an uninformed opinion, it is not our right to blast him out of the water just because he is not informed.

Yes, I know I do that and have done it, but not to people I know to be either misinformed or uninformed. I go off on them once I let them know they are misinformed or uninformed and they still try to tell me I don't know what I am talking about.

In this case, it seems you didn't even bother to continue reading further conversations between him and me. If you had, you would have seen that he was happy to get the information he got here. Even about Tinga!!

By the way......

As far as money goes, the club DOES have the means right now to go out and find a better central midfielder.

Makes you wonder why the f#ck they are wasting their time with Schlaudraff, doesn't it??

I will give you my little theory on that one. I think Watzke is truly reigning in all the power at the club. I think he wants to eliminate any player who has "BvM" written all over him.

We have two players like that. Amoah, who I think will be history at BVB after this season unless he starts scoring in a hurry and Smolarek, who has publicly stated that with BvM's firing and the club going after Schlaudraff, he is concerned for his future in Dortmund.

And I think he should be.

What pisses me off is this. Ebi Smolarek has proved himself to be a useful player and for part of last season, our only real goal-scoring threat, we may lose him simply because we have a managing director who doesn't want the previous manager to be eligible for praise when this club starts heading upward again.

I think Watzke is one of those guys who wants all the credit for himself.

And right now, I don't really care if Smolarek is in the starting lineup, but I also think he has more than proven that he deserves a place at this club.

As I keep saying on the list and as I've said a few times here, I really worry about all this power Watzke seems to be gaining.

It pisses me off even more that it is plainly obvious to anyone who knows the game that the place we most need help is central/offensive midfield.

And who are the two players we are most hotly linked with??

Heiko Westermann and Jan Schlaudraff.

A defender and a f#cking striker. Yeah. Way to go Herr Watzke....... :rolleyes:

BTW Wandi, I still think you owe BvB916 an apology for the way you went off on him.

He did not deserve that.......

[MetroChile]

I would say Amedick, but we have to credit Tinga for a number of reasons (for the title of "most useful signing"): the guy speaks NO german, works his ass off nonetheless, has chipped with a number of goals, almost kind of plays out of position....a dream foreign signing. If only we could instill his passion in Haedo-Valdez.

Metro

[footyfan1]

I would say Amedick, but we have to credit Tinga for a number of reasons (for the title of "most useful signing"): the guy speaks NO german, works his ass off nonetheless, has chipped with a number of goals, almost kind of plays out of position....a dream foreign signing. If only we could instill his passion in Haedo-Valdez.

Metro



Dude, you obviously have not seen Valdez play. If there is anything he does have it is passion. He just hasn't been able to turn that passion into goals.

BTW, Kicker has started their annual mid-season rating of Bundesliga players starting with goal-keepers and central defenders.

Kicker rates the players as "World Class", "International Class", "Just Behind International Class" and what is basically the best of the good.

Many players don't get listed. For us, Weidenfeller was rated "International Class" and Amedick among the best of the good.

Amedick has to be a surprise for someone who before the season was not expected to play any type of major role on this team. As well as he's played for us, I'll bet Braunschweig misses the hell out of him.

[MetroChile]

Dude, you obviously have not seen Valdez play. If there is anything he does have it is passion. He just hasn't been able to turn that passion into goals.


Sorry, I forgot that I needed your permission to post here. :o
I meant to type Pienaar instead of Haedo-Valdez. My apologoies, Mr. Footyfan.

Metro

[footyfan1]

Sorry, I forgot that I needed your permission to post here. :o
I meant to type Pienaar instead of Haedo-Valdez. My apologoies, Mr. Footyfan.

Metro


Oh come on. Nobody said a damned thing about your posting here.

I told you you were mistaken. In my way, but where exactly was I wrong or even "mean?"

I responded to what you typed, not what you "meant". There are no mind-readers here.

Had you typed "Pienaar", I would have agreed with you 100%.

I suggest you get over the sensitivity. You act like I told you to go f#ck your dog or something.

There are others around here who would have been a lot more condesending with that type of statement because it was so obviously incorrect.

All I did was correct you. If my words offended you, I'm sorry, but it was so obviously incorrect, it did lead me to assume you've never seen Valdez play.

How could I know you made a typing error? Again, there are no mind-readers here.

[MetroChile]

Oh come on. Nobody said a damned thing about your posting here.

I told you you were mistaken. In my way, but where exactly was I wrong or even "mean?"

I responded to what you typed, not what you "meant". There are no mind-readers here.

Had you typed "Pienaar", I would have agreed with you 100%.

I suggest you get over the sensitivity. You act like I told you to go f#ck your dog or something.

There are others around here who would have been a lot more condesending with that type of statement because it was so obviously incorrect.

All I did was correct you. If my words offended you, I'm sorry, but it was so obviously incorrect, it did lead me to assume you've never seen Valdez play.

How could I know you made a typing error? Again, there are no mind-readers here.

All this because I erroneously typed Haedo-Valdez instead of Pienaar (for which I already apologized).

Metro

[footyfan1]

All this because I erroneously typed Haedo-Valdez instead of Pienaar (for which I already apologized).

Metro


1) You didn't need to apologize to begin with for a mis-typing.

2) What brought everything else on was your response to my reply. Again, I responded to what I read, not what you might have meant. Read your reply again, pretend it's from me to you and tell me that didn't come across as sensitive and sarcastic.

There's an old saying that works in most parts of life.

"Say what you mean, mean what you say........"

Do that and all will be fine with me. Again, I'm no mind-reader.

[Cris 09]

All this because I erroneously typed Haedo-Valdez instead of Pienaar (for which I already apologized).

Metro

http://solastyear.com/backontopic.jpg


PS - please ignore the "Chelsea" Avatar...just making a point to a Chelsea fan...should have it on for 24 hrs.

Am I trolling over there? Nah!!!

[footyfan1]

Top 5 BVB Players Of The First Half of the Season As Rated by "Kicker" Magazine



1 Roman Weidenfeller 2.74

2 Martin Amedick 3.50

3 Christian Woerns 3.57

4 Alexander Frei 3.63

5 Dede 3.65

[Cris 09]

your thoughts??


Top 5 BVB Players Of The First Half of the Season As Rated by "Kicker" Magazine



1 Roman Weidenfeller 2.74

2 Martin Amedick 3.50

3 Christian Woerns 3.57

4 Alexander Frei 3.63

5 Dede 3.65

[The Old Lady Hertha]

3.5 isn't even that great....

Frei shouldn't even be that high, he's had more than enough penalty kicks to bump that stat up.

That being said, I think Dede and Tinga have been underrated, I think they are better. I'd rather have Amedick than Simunic, so I think his rating should be lower too. I hope Pienaar is in the "4s" range, because thats where he belongs, as does Degen. Smolarek hasn't been that bad either I suppose.

[footyfan1]

3.5 isn't even that great....

Actually, 3.5 is right at "average". Which in Germany, is not a bad thing.


Frei shouldn't even be that high, he's had more than enough penalty kicks to bump that stat up.

I disagree. I don't think his quote is all about goal stats. Frei played well in most matches he played in. He was just mostly ineffective in front of net.


That being said, I think Dede and Tinga have been underrated, I think they are better.

Agree on Tinga, disagree on Dede. Dede has not played anywhere near his ability level this season. I think he was dragged down by the rest.


I'd rather have Amedick than Simunic, so I think his rating should be lower too.

I think Amedick was dragged down a bit by how much he had to cover Woerns, Degen and Kruska's asses so far this season.......

I think his ratings will go up with Kehl back in the lineup.


I hope Pienaar is in the "4s" range, because thats where he belongs, as does Degen. Smolarek hasn't been that bad either I suppose.


Pienaar, I'd have in the high 4's. Even though he did have some decent performance at the start of the season.

Degen, I'd have at the same level.

Smolarek came through when the club needed him this time. The thing is, hardly anyone is helping him.

And it's not like last season where he had tons of chances and threw them away. This time, so far, the rest of the team has just failed as far as I see it........