Doping Scandal - Real involved ?

[redondo4me]

Dunno if A new thread was required !! but I found this shocking ...

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=185409

Barcelona, Real Madrid Linked With Spanish Doping Scandal

Barcelona and Real Madrid, along with Real Betis and Valencia have been linked with Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes, who is at the centre of Operation Puerto.

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Spaniard's -- any updates on this from Spain ?

[4x4s]

How can Valencia be linked with any Dr. at all when their injury problems are growing every week?

:confused:

[Naughty by Nature]

Maybe this is why we always player better in the 2nd half, Capello always juices the players up during halftime ;)

Our Response:

Real Madrid have no links with Eufemiano Fuentes and never have done, none of our players can go to another doctor without the permission of the club, and no one has asked permission to be treated by him


Barca's reponse:

Football Club Barcelona would like to issue a categorical denial of the information published in French daily Le Monde on Thursday in relation to the supposed, and completely non-existent, use of the services of doctor Eufemiano Fuentes by the club and deny that he had any involvement in the preparations for last season. Football Club Barcelona reserves the right to take legal action.

[Oscar]

How can Valencia be linked with any Dr. at all when their injury problems are growing every week?

In Valencia's case, I bet Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes is denying any links with THEM, as it would make him look bad. :D

Pretty bad dope they've been giving the team if this is even remotely true, not a prize in years, and crappy football to boot.

[Milliano]

Maybe this is why we always player better in the 2nd half, Capello always juices the players up during halftime ;)


Yes possibly. They don't need anything at halftime. All they need is an undetectable doping procedure done weeks beforehand to give them a boost in stamina. They can also be treated to recover quicker - making them more quickly recovered and fit after a match to play again or train.
The lack of evidence though, makes the question --- how credible is Le Monde? I was actually suprised that no real evidence has leaked out in this scandal against any footballers or football clubs. It has been the biggest doping scandal in sports history (which is saying a lot, because sports and doping have been tied very close for centuries).


In regards to Valencia... who knows if and who is doping their players. But yes, some doping procedure can make players more likely to be injured (why do you think Ronaldo ********ed up his knee many years ago...)

[nuff_said]

The official site released a statement debying everything. Real Madrid is threatening to use legal actions if necessary.

[Naughty by Nature]

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

1. Real Madrid CF firmly deny any direct or indirect link between the Medical Services of the Club and Dr. D. Eufemiano Fuentes.

2. Real Madrid have distinguished themselves over their 104 year history by an exemplary dedication to human values in sports and fair play. The Club has an immaculate background in the development of the work carried out by its medical services.

3. Real Madrid CF reserve the right to take any legal action that they may deem appropriate in the defense of their good name and the interest of their members and supporters.

Madrid, 7 December 2006.



Goood!

[Milliano]

Apparently now, Fuentes himself is saying he has worked with both clubs.
I wonder, why would he say this if he is lying? All he would be doing is asking for more legal trouble - civil and criminal.

[Naughty by Nature]

"These accusations are far too serious. Independent of whether clubs have denied it or not, I can deny it because there is nothing in it,"


When asked by Spanish state television if these documents were genuine Fuentes replied: "As far as I know, no."

"I have never given names, nor will I, of people or sporting clubs I have worked with,"


He is denying it.

[LosMerengues89]

There is no concrete evidence. We have nothing to worry about. Most newspapers aren't reporting it anyway, it's just Le Monde I think. They probably don't wanna get sued by the clubs for trying to destroy their image or something.

[Milliano]

He is denying it.

Yes sorry, I just caught it on TV and as usual, they mis-report this sort of thing.

[macaluca]

I know you're all very excited about the new sub-forum :p ...but how exactly is this NSR ? Shouldn't it be in the main forum?

[Legacy]

^^Technically it is medical related(also soccer as well) but posting here doesn't get this pulled into the soccer discussion IMO....thus we are here :)

[Milliano]

Manzano offers more testimony

By Antonio J. Salmerón
Jesús Manzano
Photo ©: AFP (Click for larger image)

After the information published in Le Monde last Friday, former Kelme rider Jesús Manzano has alleged on France 3 that one of the sportsmen he had seen while being treated by Eufeniano Fuentes belonged to Real Madrid. "Fuentes worked as an adviser to the club's official doctors," said Manzano. "The judge in charge of the Operación Puerto case has not called to me to testify, but if he does, I will explain everything I know, that there were soccer players among the clients of Fuentes".

However, Manzano believes it is unlikely that any charges will be brought as a result of the article. "In Spain, it is not possible to say anything about the Gods [football clubs]," he said.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/dec06/dec12news

Manzano is a cyclist who has recieved death threats for the detailed information he has given the press about doping practices.

[Legacy]

Atleast Real and Barca are together in this...even though if its just for once :p

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=395521&cc=5739

or

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6250960

[nuff_said]

Real Madrid sent this fax to le Monde. Basiclly saying their article is bullsh*t and demanding an apology

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/b8f796288faxlemondeg.jpg


Taking into account the falsehood of the information published by your journal, we invite you -actually, demand- to rectify all these false reports and that this rectification and subsequent apology be published in the same manner and layout format as the above mentioned original article with its false allegations.

In any event, we wish to inform you that Real Madrid (notwithstanding the legal actions that other incriminated parties may incur) will file the appropriate lawsuit against your newspaper and the person or persons directly or indirectly responsible for the fabrication and publication of said false and untrue reports.

Complete translation here- http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma35678.htm

[Naughty by Nature]

Let's sue those bastards ..

[Real j'can]

Apparently, we and Barcelona are going to take legal action against them.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldFootballNews&storyID=2006-12-12T191153Z_01_L1251825_RTRIDST_0_SOCCER-SPAIN-REAL-LE-MONDE.XML&WTmodLoc=World+Football-C1-Headline-1

[Eddie]

Apparently, we and Barcelona are going to take legal action against them.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldFootballNews&storyID=2006-12-12T191153Z_01_L1251825_RTRIDST_0_SOCCER-SPAIN-REAL-LE-MONDE.XML&WTmodLoc=World+Football-C1-Headline-1

Thats the right thing to do!

Spreading such bullshit these days can have very serious consequences.

[redondo4me]

Fuentes denies any links with Real Madrid
http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6288278,00.html

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma35790.htm

He has issued a statement denying that he has ever worked with Real ... he also said it about Betis last week ... no comment on Farca yet :D

Le Monde is about to apologise to us ...