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bocatuna
17 Apr 2003, 06:04 PM
First off there's no reason behind this thread, I really don't care if nobody reads, or if fails to spark any discussion at all. I just have to do it ,partly after the following post by Matt:

"And then there's Barnes. World Class - easily better than Giggs or Pires are now. In fact, he was an almost perfect amalgam of the two - Gigg's speed and balance, Pires' close control."

And partly after a discussion I had with my dad after watching one of those "fans meet their favourite pop star" shows on MTV. I was taking the piss out of these loony fans who have posters all over their wall and who start hyperventalating at the very mention of their idol. I claimed that I had never been that obessive about anything, ever, when my dad turned around and said " What about John Barnes"

Suddenly it all starting flooding back to me. The time at primary school when I hit my best friend and got sent to stand at the wall during playtime because he said that Barnes was rubbish. The time at the barbers when I asked to have a hair cut like Barnes, only for the barber to turn around and say I couldn't because I wasn't black. The times I cursed God for not making me left footed.The time I cried when saw him in the black and white of Newcastle.

I was pretty much obessed by the man ever since I saw him steal the ball on the halfway line and waltz through the QPR defence in his first season. I was lucky, I got see watch Barnes in the flesh in the late 80's and early 90's when he, IMO, was the best player in the world.

Van Basten ? Guillt ? Maradona ? bollocks , they had nothing on Barnes. I've never seen Van basten score a goal like Barnes's chip vs Millwall. I never seen Gullit score a header like Barnes's vs Everton. Maradona never produced a moment of wizadry that could match Barnes's back heel for McMahon vs Everton. As for the those curling shots from the corner of the area , like one he scored against Villa, not even Pele in his prime could produce such skill.

Of course after '91 Barnes suffered injuries which robbed us of his talent, though there were still moments of magic. The backheel v Crewe, the overkick v Blackburn, the 'la bullet canon' v Spurs. Some of fondest memories were watching Barnes playing a hold position in his latter years, controlling play, constantly probing , using his vision and experience.

Barnes was, and always will be, my favourite player of all time, and a personal hero. Here ends my tribute to one of the greatest English players ever.

Obessive? Just a tad.

655321
17 Apr 2003, 06:36 PM
I've only seen video of him, but noone, bar Fowler sometimes, can make the hair on my arms stand up as much as him.

Samarkand
18 Apr 2003, 12:11 AM
Then there is the story, probably apocryphal, that AC Milan heard about Barnes and sent their English scout to check him out with the understanding that if he [Barnes] was available, he [the scout] should sign the "fabulous black forward" who played for Watford asap.

So the scout goes along to a Watford game and that "fabulous black forward" had a barnstormer, scoring a hat trick, being the fulcrum of all things creative on the night. So Milan signed the "fabulous black forward" as soon as possible.

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how Luther Blisset went to Milan and Johnny Barnes became a Scouser.
Probably apocryphal, but funny nevertheless. :)

skipshady
18 Apr 2003, 12:29 AM
That is a great story, whether it's true or not.

I too worshipped Barnes as a 10 year old boy and he will always be my favorite. It's a dame shame English clubs were banned from Europe because outside of Britain, the world never got to see Barnes at his best.

He was bad. Kinda reminded me of Magic Johnson. I'm from LA and dig the Lakers, especially when Magic was there, and Barnes was like him, in that he made the ball talk. The cat was cool. - Dr. Dre on John Barnes :)

bocatuna
18 Apr 2003, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by skipshady

He was bad. Kinda reminded me of Magic Johnson. I'm from LA and dig the Lakers, especially when Magic was there, and Barnes was like him, in that he made the ball talk. The cat was cool. - Dr. Dre on John Barnes :)

World In Motion 2003 ( Thugz Life remix) is probably the greatest hip hop song never made.

Matt Clark
22 Apr 2003, 07:09 AM
Digger was awesome in his prime. As I said in the other thread, there is no one playing in Britain today who matches what John Barnes was in the years 1986 - 1991.

melloyello
22 Apr 2003, 10:34 AM
too bad he couldn't do that for england

Matt Clark
22 Apr 2003, 10:36 AM
Indeed. One of the great mysteries of our time. Of course, he was never playing with as good a side when he was with England.