Nike makes a bid to kit out the German National Team

[Jc18star]

According to this link http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6227148
Nike is tying to swipe the German's from Adidas. If this is the case, Nike is really taking a shot at Adidas since they are so firmly associated with the DBF, it says they have been kitting them out since 1954.

Often Nike will make bids like this in order to drive up the offer Adidas or some other rival company is making thus causing them(rival company) to outlay more money and resources but the fact that this made headlines makes me wonder how much the DBF is considering leaving their current deal with Adidas on the table.

I think Nike is taking aim at the heart of Adidas and they really want to crush them in thier "hometown" and the sport most assocaited with them. At this point as well Adidas is on the downswing. Their shoes like the Tunit and the quality level of the Preds are crap ATM and since the Predator they really have been lagging behind in terms of making products that dupe people into thinking they make them play better while Nike has launched the Vapor to "make you faster", the Total 90's to be able to "run forever and shoot with power" and even managed to make solid K-leather boots be better because they "provide touch". Obviously this is marketing in terms of the Preds impact on someones games as well as the Nike shoes but they have enough people buying into that it does matter in terms of selling boots.

Now what I am getting at here is that Nike is storming the castle while Adidas is still trying to figure out a way to defend the village. If they get Germany don't be shocked to see them go after the offical FIFA and UEFA contracts. I feel like the end is near for Adidas as the market leader and Nike is looking to put some distance between that gap once it opens up.

On a side note, the massive let down that I have had with every Adidas shoe I have owned in the past 3 years including the Copa's that lost their shape too fast (I am talking two games) makes me kind of wish this goes through. I also am a fan of agressive behavior in business and this to me defines that sort of win and win big outlook.

[Twenty26Six]

It is definitely a ball-sy move.

I've given up on adidas b.c the shape and feel of their shoes don't seem natural anymore. I've had nothing but good experiences with my Air Controls, Legends, and the new Fives.

[blackjack]

I've never worn Nike soccer shoes, but every pair of Nike track spikes I've had has worn out way too fast. I don't buy their products anymore.

[Devil500]

Sigh where is this world going to :o

Personally I like Nike, and all but I think they use too much synthetic I'd love to see a pair of k leather vapors... Thats why I'm in love with Puma :D

[Sky_]

Well, I like Nike just because they are synthetic. K-leather Vapors just don't look/feel right imo. I've owned a pair of Preds, and the craftsmanship is just poor, there are thread ends everywhere and i've heard from friends about the splitting from sole problem, so i sold it quickly. I've never been a big fan of k-leather, nor am I a big Puma fan (I think the V1 is too thin, impossible to clean and not very durable either), but the new Konstruct II's really are quite good.

All in all, Adidas need to regroup themselves because the Tunit concept is a flop, IMHO. I don't know many people who actually bought the "Premium" pack or collect tons of uppers, as a matter of fact most people I know just wear the +F30's.

[red & wite army]

Well Germany changing sponsorship from Adidas is a big thing, and I understand that it means alot to Adidas and their reputation, but to be honest I'm not sure where Adidas's boots quality come into the argument?

For the record, I think that Nike's boots aren't good for a number of reasons, and I actually think Adidas's boots are brilliant...
especially the F30 range - pure class imo!!!

[Old US Keeper]

I don't know many people who actually bought the "Premium" pack or collect tons of uppers, as a matter of fact most people I know just wear the +F30's.

How many lottery winners do you know? Just because you don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist. For every Nike lover out there there is a person who dislikes Nike just as much.

While I like a lot of Nike's products, I do not like their Wal-Mart like practices of trying to squash the competition out of existence. That makes me want to automatically side with their prey, out of spite.

[kaitster]

I've never worn Nike boots, so I am biased, but I like all my predators just fine. Yes, my absolutes did split this past week, but I had them replaced free of charge, and I still (reminder: biased opinion) think they are some of the comfiest boots around.

Lookswise, I like predators better than vapors, even though I've always wanted a pair of the white/gold vapors because they look sweet. And kitwise, I like Adidas better.

Just my (once again, very biased) $0.02.

[vanity_soccer13]

I agree that the craftmanship of adidas has taken a hit, and I don't think they've made a solid quality boot since the precisions were discontinued(I only mean that they didn't become unplayable after half a season). I've had 1 pair of the orginal azt90s, 3 of the azt90 II's, and one of the III's, and I have never had any manufacturing defects or any other problems with them. and my legends also are perfect still. in that time period I've had f50+ sg boots(holes in the toes), predator manias(sole separated), and copa mundials(tear in the instep of the leather).

it's hard not to be biased towards companies when quality is sacrificed.

but, as for the take over.. It'd be huuuge if Nike won this bid. It'd be about as crazy as a foreign coach taking over the USMNT position ;)

[Cassano]

I'm not a fan of Nike or Adidas boots. I like to wear the lesser known quality made boots like Mizuno and Asics.

[Dr.Phil]

Wont happen Germany will stick with Adidas

[Case]

Yeah like JC said this is mostly Nike ensuring that Adidas don't get a cheap deal becoz of their long-standing German roots, I doubt they have a serious intent to gain the contract but then once upon a phone call Sir Alex half jokingly enquired about the availability of some Frenchman when Leeds rang trying to buy Dennis Irwin, and we all know how that on ends....

[Jc18star]

Yeah like JC said this is mostly Nike ensuring that Adidas don't get a cheap deal becoz of their long-standing German roots, I doubt they have a serious intent to gain the contract but then once upon a phone call Sir Alex half jokingly enquired about the availability of some Frenchman when Leeds rang trying to buy Dennis Irwin, and we all know how that on ends....

it ended very well, i would say.

[FCBayern1613]

if nike were to get Germany i would cry, adidas is a German company and it is greatly associated with the DFB. if nike were to get Germany it is basically ruining tradition.

[Jc18star]

if nike were to get Germany i would cry, adidas is a German company and it is greatly associated with the DFB. if nike were to get Germany it is basically ruining tradition.

I understand your point here and can see where you are coming from but an appeal to tradition also know as ad antiquitatem, is a logical fallacy that can destroy an arguments validity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

Sorry for that but I found out over the past two days through a series of required debates through my argument and advocy class that my natural talent for arguments and winning them maybe be my ticket into law school or becoming a lobbyist, which changes my plans for owning a large staffing firm but may allow me to do something I really enjoy.

Either way not trying to rip on you but I am still in shark mode from this weekend.

* Yes I am aware that wikipedia has little validity even though I am talking about validity in argumentation due to its open fourm nature but it was the quickest definition I could find and matches my textbooks deffinition.

[Case]

Technically you only refuted his last point, the first two (German company associated with the fed) could be inferred as lending too a favourable partnership more beneficial than with Nike's pure money approach....

But anyways, if u distrust wiki so, may as well use http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Awesome

[thebigman]

please kit out the england team instead

[Jc18star]

Technically you only refuted his last point, the first two (German company associated with the fed) could be inferred as lending too a favourable partnership more beneficial than with Nike's pure money approach....

But anyways, if u distrust wiki so, may as well use http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Awesome

Yeah I was going to point that out as well, but a strong counter point could be Nike being in bed (so to speak) with US fed and how they pushed adidas out of the USSF for a favourable partnership. If Nike were to use that defense then they would be open to attack from Adidas claiming that they used the same tactic. which in a way really is another fallacy call tu quoque (two wrongs don’t make a right) but it could create reasonable doubt that Nike should be given the contract due using the same shady busniness methods they are now rallying agasint.

Its sort of saying well it's ok when we do it to someone else but not when it's done to us.

[Case]

Its sort of saying well it's ok when we do it to someone else but not when it's done to us.

...which is the most HUMAN sentiment I ever heard!

"Do unto others as you'd others do unto you, but do it first"!

[DICKO]

I'm not too sure about the claim that adidas have made the german kit since 1954 , if you check out the 1978 world cup kit this is definately not adidas , i'm not sure which brand it is but its definately NOT adidas.