New Fusion Investor ?

[chichi]

I posted this on the Non-MLS cities area but I figured more people read this section.

New Fusion Investor ?

We can only hope, here is the situation...

His name is Jorge Vergara, Mexican, owner of Chivas Rayadas de Guadalajara and Saprissa of Costa Rica.

He is currently looking to buy Emelec of Guayaquil Ecuador http://www.cre.com.ec/futbolnac/det...as.asp?ID=38943 and is intrested in buying Comunicaciones of Guatemala, Atlético Nacional of Colombia and Santos of Brazil.

He is the owner of a company called Omnilife http://200.76.177.21/

Jorge Vergara Madrigal
http://www.geocities.com/chivaschin...iculo21202.html
Oficinas Generales: (01 33) 3540-6664 en Guadalajara, Jal., México

Since he's into buying Soccer teams and since Miami is the Gateway to Latin America, it would make sense for him to invest here.

Think of the off season Cups, all his teams could play here in Miami!

I'm looking for his email and I'll post it if I can find it.
It would be great to contact him and see what he thinks

[soccer4sFlorida]

WE NEED A TEAM HERE

ready! to do my part :)

[chichi]

For further discussion go here:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=44354

[chichi]

Ok People, I got his email and that of a few of his people. I need for you guys to help me out and write him something, so he can see we actually want a team!!!

CEO Jorge Vergara: jvergara@omnilife.com.mx
Public Relations Director: btenorio@omnilife.com.mx
Adminitrive Coordinator: jarredondo@omnilife.com.mx

I wrote the email to Jorge Vergara and copied in the others. Hopefully one of our emails will get through.

I stated why I think he should come to MLS and to Miami specificly. If you guys want I'll post my email.

Thanks for your help!!!

[SABuffalo786]

MLS coming back to South Florida(in the near future i.e. the next 5-10 years) is about as likely as the Redwings repeating. A valiant, respectable effort, but really guys, give it up.

[Mike T]

Originally posted by SABuffalo786
MLS coming back to South Florida(in the near future i.e. the next 5-10 years) is about as likely as the Redwings repeating. A valiant, respectable effort, but really guys, give it up.

Sorry Buffalo, thanks for the nice talk but their is no point behind the patronizing drab then you just blow it down with outright negativity. Chichi's insight is quite remarkable and this is probably the lone city in the US that it applies to. There is no point in giving up when there is such an interesting senario. Its inovative ideas like this that make the world go round and its definitly "worth the shot" what have we S.F. soccer fans have got to lose... absolutely nothing! What have we got to win just about everything futbolistically. This guy Jorge Vergara is obviously a successful businessman and futbol afissinado(hopefullly an affusionado as well) thats willing to take risk and let them bloossom into riches. He can very well become an interested party and for good reasons.


Chichi, I will add my 2 cents worth probably tommorro or Saturday... I want to send them a quality letter... you know what I mean. Something real good, and back it up with real stats and Miami demographic figures(in other words.. gota do some research). THIS MIGHT JUST WORK keep up the good work Chichi.

Later.

[SABuffalo786]

Originally posted by Mike T
Sorry Buffalo, thanks for the nice talk but their is no point behind the patronizing drab then you just blow it down with outright negativity. Chichi's insight is quite remarkable and this is probably the lone city in the US that it applies to. There is no point in giving up when there is such an interesting senario. Its inovative ideas like this that make the world go round and its definitly "worth the shot" what have we S.F. soccer fans have got to lose... absolutely nothing! What have we got to win just about everything futbolistically. This guy Jorge Vergara is obviously a successful businessman and futbol afissinado(hopefullly an affusionado as well) thats willing to take risk and let them bloossom into riches. He can very well become an interested party and for good reasons.


Chichi, I will add my 2 cents worth probably tommorro or Saturday... I want to send them a quality letter... you know what I mean. Something real good, and back it up with real stats and Miami demographic figures(in other words.. gota do some research). THIS MIGHT JUST WORK keep up the good work Chichi.

Later.

It isn't negativity. It's the truth.

[Mike T]

No buff,

This is the Truth...

"... we S.F. soccer fans have got(nothing) to lose... absolutely nothing! What have we got to win just about everything futbolistically."

so there is nothing lost doing something and everything to lose by doing nothing. If you rather be an nay-er rather than a do-er thats your perogative but not mine or should I say our's(SF futbol fans).

You've got to buy at least one lottery ticket to win the lotto jackpot. You don't buy one and your odds of winning is absolutely zero, but you save yourself some cash. In this senario, the odds of changing destiny is much more likely than an lotto jackpot and it cost much less... NOTHING, but some honest effort(less than this rebutle), period.

Later buddy, by the way how's the weather up there in Buffalo. I'm thinkin of hitting the backyard pool tommorrow after a workout. Ciao :)

[SABuffalo786]

Originally posted by Mike T


Later buddy, by the way how's the weather up there in Buffalo. I'm thinkin of hitting the backyard pool tommorrow after a workout. Ciao :)

Just fine. You Florida ************** couldn't deal with it. :D

[soccer4sFlorida]

Originally posted by SABuffalo786
Just fine. You Florida ************** couldn't deal with it. :D

Frozen brain !
naive, novice, ingnorant wanna be, non-pro, never will :)

but i like your style

[MetroAndAGuinessPlz]

It is not going to happen. People (most people) in the South and in Florida never support their teams enough.

[Mike T]

Originally posted by MetroAndAGuinessPlz
It is not going to happen. People (most people) in the South and in Florida never support their teams enough.

With the exception of the "Lockhart" Fusion of 2001.(The most entertaining team in MLS history yet the Lockhart average that year didn't even reach 10k- an embarresing 9938.) I otherwise disagree entirely. The recent lower turnouts for Florida teams would be no different elsewhere given the gutter performances by several of its teams throughout the most recent years. Lightning and Panthers in the cellar of their division consistently. The Heat nearly the worst team in the league this year and among the worst last year. Not to mention the humiliating stint of the Florida Marlins since the were demolished by then owner Wayne Hizingua after winning the 1997 World Series.

So that statement is simply a cheap shot considering all the bad teams we have had in Florida with the exception of Gridiron Football. There the franshises and college teams have been rather prosperous.

[Profi]

Unfortunately soccer in south florida...................
died with the Strikers, and was buried with the Fusion.

[chichi]

Originally posted by Mike T

Chichi, I will add my 2 cents worth probably tommorro or Saturday... I want to send them a quality letter... you know what I mean. Something real good, and back it up with real stats and Miami demographic figures(in other words.. gota do some research). THIS MIGHT JUST WORK keep up the good work Chichi.

Later.

Thats cool Mike!

My email was a little plain and straight to the point. Statistics would help our cause.

I'll post my email at the strikers website tonight just so you have an idea.

As far as the rhetoric we get from all these bozo's... I don't know what we ever did to make the rest of the League hate us so much?!
We out drew 2 if not 3 other teams, we were more profitable then most teams and we had the best team record in 2001. Yet we get disrespected by Soccer fans and MLS brass alike.

It wasn't the fans that made our team go away, it was the lack of vision and soccer know how, it was Garber and Horowitz who did this. Horowitz didn't want to keep losing money thats what it all comes down to.

[Paul Schmidt]

Chichi,

2-3 posters have been relentless in badmouthing MLS while, at the same time, supposedly campaigning for MLS to return. Most of us are annoyed with the scene by now.

Well, I'm just naturally jaded. I'm trying to see, based on an above statement, where owning Chivas and Saprissa represents risk-taking. I do wish you luck, but I just don't give you good odds.

I also made mention in another thread of what I think "a" problem is in several places, including Miami and San Jose. It's one thing to show support for soccer (Mexican teams get the occasional 20K + crowds in Spartan Stadium), but the game here is to support American soccer, and a lot of these places turn out to lack that support when the chips are down.

[Mike T]

Originally posted by Paul Schmidt

2-3 posters have been relentless in badmouthing MLS while, at the same time, supposedly campaigning for MLS to return. Most of us are annoyed with the scene by now.

Well, I'm just naturally jaded. I'm trying to see, based on an above statement, where owning Chivas and Saprissa represents risk-taking. I do wish you luck, but I just don't give you good odds.

I also made mention in another thread of what I think "a" problem is in several places, including Miami and San Jose. It's one thing to show support for soccer (Mexican teams get the occasional 20K + crowds in Spartan Stadium), but the game here is to support American soccer, and a lot of these places turn out to lack that support when the chips are down. Paul,
I hope you and others realize how unjustly you are generalizing Miami/SF fans based on the irrational rhetoric of a few "2 or 3" fellow SF soccer fans(of which I have also had some heavy disaggrements for reasons you have already mentioned). Let me tell you, we Fusion fans hurt just as much as any Mutiny fan if not more for the fact that they clipped our wings at our team's pinnacle. Maybe thats why it so painful to accept.

Also regarding the worthyness of such a risk. I think you picked the two least significant teams of the pot chichi mentioned, Saprisa and Chivas. There are relativley few Costa Ricans(Saprisa) in S.F. and even less Mexicans(Chivas). The key connections are National de Medellin(Colombia), Emelec of Equador, Communicaciones of Guatemala and to a lesser though additional effect even Saprisa. Chivas of Mexico does nothing to help in the Miami area. I believe Mexican must be among the least represented hispanic groups in Miami, interestingly and quite the opposite to the rest of the nation.

Which leads to the answer to your last paragraph. Though to the less informed anglo, or can I say "gringo", there seems to be little difference between Florida hispanics and California hispanics, however, that generalization is rather off the mark. The grand majority of California hispanics(or as they rather be called "latinos") are of primarily homogeonous nationality that is Mexican or Mexican-American. Miami on the other hand is extremely multinational, mixing large numbers of hispanic(as well as many Brazilians) nationalities which are UNITED by the American flag. To many Mexicans or Calimexicans the American flag means the opposite. It means resentment in multiple ways, socially, culturally and historically. If you ever attendend a US vs Mex game in California and compared it to a US vs "blank" game in Miami you would realize a significant difference. In Miami thought the fans may be wearing different colors and seamingly rooting for some "other" team they also cheer for the US... and if their national team is not playing they will probably cheer particularly for the USA. In California, you do that as a fellow latino or other and you are tagged as a "Tio Taco"(equivalent to an Uncle Tom) and get piss thrown at you to say the least.

Many of California hispanics regard US soccer and anything associated with it (MLS) as hugely inferior and any improvement as a challange to their historical domination of the Concacaf region. Miami hispanics while they also retain some connections to their old teams/nations they also appreciate good soccer no matter where its from and have no intrisic negative bias for any US game whether on the national team level or club level(MLS). MLS' just has to show them the fun and quality and believe me they WILL come. All the anglos from Miami, Ft.Lauderdale, and Palm Beach as well as Colombians, Hondurans, Ecuadorans, Brazilians, Argentines, Peruvians, Guatemalans, Salvadorans, Uruguayans, Venezuelans, Hatians, Jamaicans, some Cubans and maybe a few Mexicans.

Comprende Pablito? :)

[soccer4sFlorida]

:)
Jamaica will play Haiti on May 18 at Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale as part of its preparation for the CONCACAF Gold Cup. In another Gold Cup prep, new MetroStars signee Amado Guevera was named to Honduras' roster for the April 30 friendly against Colombia at the Orange Bowl. ...

did the MLS season start yet ?

[Paul Schmidt]

Mike,

I'm not sure your point matters.

It's been almost 14 years since I've been a resident of Portland. If MLS were to arrive in Boise tomorrow, I'd primarily remain a Portland fan... and I'd be laughing at MLS over Boise.

There are many shades of the situation in the Bay Area, ranging from multi-generation residents whose ancestors never bought the Mexican Cession, to the people who ran through yesterday. The American scene has never held steady enough to grow long-term relationships between team and fan, and Mexican teams (and others) are always going north for hard cash. I don't see many easy converts to attendance in San Jose, where it desperately matters.

The numbers in Lockhart didn't lie, either. The connections you mention (and I've been guessing a strong Colombian community for some time), I believe, are just as strong. Moreover, we're talking about communities that get out and support each other, meaning they'll make sure there's a bar showing games from "home".

Same with many of the Euro fans, of course. The numbers happen to be more pronounced in California and Florida. I can't blame any of them for sticking with their teams, much the way I do mine.

[art]

Originally posted by Mike T
[B"... we S.F. soccer fans have got(nothing) to lose... absolutely nothing! What have we got to win just about everything futbolistically."
[/B]

I agree 100%. Go for it, and good luck to you.

[chichi]

Has anyone received a response?

If we want a team in South Florida in our lifetime, then let's do something about it!

I urge those who haven't written to please do so.

CEO Jorge Vergara: jvergara@omnilife.com.mx
Public Relations Director: btenorio@omnilife.com.mx
Adminitrive Coordinator: jarredondo@omnilife.com.mx