Cruz Azul Rebuilding Thread

[roro10]

It's pretty safe to say everyone is dissapointed at the management and players for the lack of desire to win a title these past few years. We can't complain we haven't had the talent to win, so it comes down to the players being unmotivated and the management not having the balls to pull some plugs.

However, we can't say we are in a crisis.We were superlideres this year. wooohooo:rolleyes: that is really not something to be proud of. 30 points is pathetic for a league leader. The point is we need to clean house. We have some good young players (Chavez, Dominguez, Villaluz:confused: 0 but its clear mizrahi has to go as well as some players who haven't been up to par. Pereyra, verne, conejo, have to go. It hurts me a lot to say this but chelito doesn't same to be motivated anymore. Maybe he needs to go:(

Feel free to add potential players and coaches we could go after, looking for a fresh and young cruz azul, that can play creative football that has been lacking.

[Memento]

1. Take the team away from Billy. He can be the financial manager,president,whatever, let the people who know choose.

2. Fire inexperienced coach Mizrahi.

3. Fire the core of our foreign players, except maybe for Delgado and Nuñez.

4. Fire the core of mexican players (exceot for the very young players_), this includes specially to have a new GK. Corona anyone?

Now, start rebuilding.

[metalmaster]

1. Take the team away from Billy. He can be the financial manager,president,whatever, let the people who know choose.

2. Fire inexperienced coach Mizrahi.

3. Fire the core of our foreign players, except maybe for Delgado and Nuñez.

4. Fire the core of mexican players (exceot for the very young players_), this includes specially to have a new GK. Corona anyone?

Now, start rebuilding.

Just slap the Azul Jersey on most the Atlas players and get El Loco Bielsa as the coach

[Various Styles]

Cruz Azul has allways been one my favourite clubs, you know the club you adopt once your club is out of the running. So, I have kept up with the Blue Machine throught the years and can say that is quite sad to see such a good team not amount to much.

The problems with Cruz Azul have been present for quite a while. We can trace them back to after the Copa Libertadores run, when there was a fall out in the locker room and all the foreigners were axed.

If memory serves me right then came Meza and brought back a new batch of foreigners, and many of the Mexican players that started the locker room turmoil were still in the team, chief among them is Conejo Perez, whom I know is part of the ongoing problem.

I remember most of this because it is how Palencia joined Chivas. And he decided not to talk about the problems with Cruz Azul, but one of the veteran defeners, i forget his name, he went on to play one season with Galatassaray (Tur) and even played Champions League games, well he said many of the foreigners were unjustly blamed and used as escape goats and as a sign of solidarity for his teammates decided to leave the club.

My Solution for Cruz Azul is for Billy to get a General Manager, someone that keeps tabs on the coach and player and makes sure the Machine is running on all cylinders. Then, they need renovate the squad. Conejo will be the first out the door, then Melvin Brown. And start giving their youth players more trust. Look at what Cacho is doing at Pachuca!

Anyways, someone forward my post to Billy :D

[Various Styles]

Todays edition of Ovaciones claims that el Pelado Diaz, best remembered for his sucesfull run with River Plate, will be the next manager!

He is a very good coach, his only weakness is not knowing MFL in depth, but if he follows in the tradition of his collegues Tolo and Passarela then we can be quite cofident that Diaz can change Cruz Azuls fortunes.

[Monkeyboy2000]

There was talk of actually getting a sports director for the club. I'll post some info on this later but as I recall, they were supposed to make an announcement back in October.

[Chelito Fan]

i don't think the problem is with the coaches at all. i don't even think it is with the players either. i thought the team was exciting to watch this year. that's what's most important to me. not that they win every game or win the championship every time. if that happened, i'd start watching another league with more parity. i like the ups and downs.

that being said, they played a good game saturday. they had numerous chances that didn't go in. but the fact that they got those chances is a positive in all of this. every team has off days. but it does seem that Cruz Azul has their off days during very important games.

sabah had several chances. he missed. that's life and that's part of the game. i don't hate the guy. i don't want to see him fired or benched either. he was pretty exciting to watch this year and i'm not going to ignore that based on one game lost.

there are many nuances that go into every game that the spectator will never be made privy to. it is never straight forward cut and dry.

this season is over for cruz azul. i'm not bitter though. i anxiously await next season and will root for them just as hard as i always do.

[Desert_Eagle]

i don't think the problem is with the coaches at all. i don't even think it is with the players either. i thought the team was exciting to watch this year. that's what's most important to me. not that they win every game or win the championship every time. if that happened, i'd start watching another league with more parity. i like the ups and downs.

i dont think anybody expects cruz azul to win every single title, but the thing is we havent won anything since 97 and supposively we are a big team. i say we are a big fake.

who i would like to see gone from cruz azul:
pereyra
nunez
adrian sanchez
hector lopez
conejo perez
salvador carmona
miguel sabah
campora
danilo

players who i would like to see come in to cruz azul:
vicente sanchez
sinha
esquivel
jesus corona
valenzuela

any of this players would be a step forward. i dont want to see cruz azul hire anymore crappy players who dont want to win championships.

[Memento]

Having El Pelado Diaz as head coach would be excellent news. He would provide experience and character to the team. It would be the first step toward rebuilding.

Next: ChANGE SOME PLAYERS. Except for Nunez and Delgado, I think the rest have not proben any merit to remain on the team.

[changoguapo]

i don't think the problem is with the coaches at all. i don't even think it is with the players either. i thought the team was exciting to watch this year. that's what's most important to me. not that they win every game or win the championship every time. if that happened, i'd start watching another league with more parity. i like the ups and downs.

that being said, they played a good game saturday. they had numerous chances that didn't go in. but the fact that they got those chances is a positive in all of this. every team has off days. but it does seem that Cruz Azul has their off days during very important games.

sabah had several chances. he missed. that's life and that's part of the game. i don't hate the guy. i don't want to see him fired or benched either. he was pretty exciting to watch this year and i'm not going to ignore that based on one game lost.

there are many nuances that go into every game that the spectator will never be made privy to. it is never straight forward cut and dry.

this season is over for cruz azul. i'm not bitter though. i anxiously await next season and will root for them just as hard as i always do.

I agree, were 3rd as far as the percentage is concerned. meaning every year is solid for us. The problem, and i hate to blame one person or 2, but Billy Alvarez (1 title in 25 years) and Conejo Perez. Look at Guadalajara, how a solid keeper can make a difference!! i am pissed and jealous of Guadalajara for having such an awesome keeper, and i look at America with Ochoa, Salcido, and Navarrette. Monterrey had 2 young guys playing interliga last year and they did good. And we cant produce 1 freaking keeper!!!!!!
I dont konw if this is true or not, but when i was talking to a waiter friend i know at the bar where i usually watch the games, he said that the reason Conejo is still there is becuase he is a compadre to the Alvarez family or something and thats why they wont touch him. I dont know if its true.
I really believe a new keeper will change everything. Sure we can add and drop people but the keeper position is in a badly need of a change. And remember youre as strong as your weakest link!!!!!

[metalmaster]

So much for the rebuilding. Mizrahi is still the coach. Preapare for more of the same
http://www.oem.com.mx/esto/notas/n93059.htm

[soccer krazy]

Danilo and Campora out of Cruz azul and Pereyra could leave.
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=509741&s=mex&type=story

[soccer krazy]

Gabriel Pereyra says he will stay with cruz azul
http://mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=30294

Cruz azul are after omar bravo
http://mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=30300

[soccer krazy]

Campora and Danilo let go by cruz azul and they bring chile defender caceres from cruz azul hidalgo.
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=510782&s=mex&type=story

Chiquis garcia and alberto rodriguez also let go by Cruz azul
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=510789&s=mex&type=story

[chris2787]

players who i would like to see come in to cruz azul:
vicente sanchez
sinha
esquivel
jesus corona
valenzuela

any of this players would be a step forward. i dont want to see cruz azul hire anymore crappy players who dont want to win championships.

SO basically you want Toluca players wearing blue?

First Chiquis Garcia then Salvador Carmona then Israel Lopez...
MAn, you guys always take our players. :D

[Desert_Eagle]

SO basically you want Toluca players wearing blue?

First Chiquis Garcia then Salvador Carmona then Israel Lopez...
MAn, you guys always take our players. :D

they could belong to queretaro for all i care they are players that make a difference, btw chiquis and israel lopez arent welcomed by me i think they arent good enough.

[soccer krazy]

Sabah doesn't want to return to chivas
http://mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=30517

[Desert_Eagle]

Sabah doesn't want to return to chivas
http://mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=30517

does anybody that goes for cruz azul want him to stay??? i dont.

[changoguapo]

does anybody that goes for cruz azul want him to stay??? i dont.

I would like Sabah to stay, he had a bad game but he had an excellent season. I want to find to find out if it was fluke season or hes actually that good. Weve given others more chances with less and this guy was our scoring leader.

[Capra27]

Do the cruz azulinos know if chelito is staying? What do you guys think about Mizrahi staying?