about street football ,

[Lacavic]

with more and more cars emering in the street , few kids play football in the stree now , i dont know its common in the whole world , but its widely said that street football is largely a thing of yesterday , do you think so , are there still some street football in your country ? (i know street football is still alive in s.american , i mean it out of s.american)

[johan neeskens]

with more and more cars emering in the street , few kids play football in the stree now , i dont know its common in the whole world , but its widely said that street football is largely a thing of yesterday , do you think so , are there still some street football in your country ? (i know street football is still alive in s.american , i mean it out of s.american)

Street football's very popular in Holland at the moment!

Cruyff is stimulating its popularity with his Cruyff Courts initiative, he develops enclosed areas where kids can play football outside yet in a secure environment. Also very popular on the streets is panna knock-out football, which is two a side football targeted not primarily at scoring goals but at nutmegging your opponent (panna = surinamese slang for nutmegging). When you nutmeg your opponent, the game's over.

So no, it's definitely not a thing of yesterday. It's in fact a very fashionable thing to do amongs Dutch kids these days.

[AFCA]

Street football's very popular in Holland at the moment!

Cruyff is stimulating its popularity with his Cruyff Courts initiative, he develops enclosed areas where kids can play football outside yet in a secure environment. Also very popular on the streets is panna knock-out football, which is two a side football targeted not primarily at scoring goals but at nutmegging your opponent (panna = surinamese slang for nutmegging). When you nutmeg your opponent, the game's over.

So no, it's definitely not a thing of yesterday. It's in fact a very fashionable thing to do amongs Dutch kids these days.


But not in the way it was maybe 15 years ago. All I did was play football in the street. The neighbours wanted us dead, because their doorway was our goal (and their windows our posts :D).

It's definitely not dead. But once upon a time, streetfootball was probably the youth's nr pastime. And that wasn't even that long ago.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Compared to what it was, it's dead. Even worse is the fact that school playing fields and other forms of public space are all being sold off for housing as well. That and if any kids gather together to get something arranged then Betty and friends call the police and ASBOs are issued. There's little wonder the kids of today are left with playing WE/PES or laughing at FIFA to get their daily football fix. It's a disgrace.

[RichardL]

Compared to what it was, it's dead. Even worse is the fact that school playing fields and other forms of public space are all being sold off for housing as well..
loads of schools in England don't play football, or at best make it secondary to rugby. Some schools ban football completely, even during break times. It's not a safety issue, it's too many damn rugger buggers in positions of power trying to make kids play their game instead, despite widespread apathy for the sport.

[Lacavic]

cruyff is great . he isnt like some other persons just care about own money making football become pure industry . he is making football a joyfull game . while street football in other country is dead , it is still alive in holland . maybe in the future football itself will dead , i think cruyff is the person who deserve president of uefa . football is for you and me not for the f***ing industry.

[Lacavic]

i also think holland deserve a WORLD CUP ! holland is not a big country but produce so many super star . we should thanks to cruyff , not to guy like abrasimovich who is destroying the beautiful game . we should respect club like ajax not the club like chelsea who just make the game losing beauty day by day .

[johan neeskens]

But not in the way it was maybe 15 years ago. All I did was play football in the street. The neighbours wanted us dead, because their doorway was our goal (and their windows our posts :D).

It's definitely not dead. But once upon a time, streetfootball was probably the youth's nr pastime. And that wasn't even that long ago.

The street football of our generation is dead, I agree. But the game's reinvented itself through the Cruyff courts and games like panna knock-out. Street football has been formalised, if you will.

[johan neeskens]

i also think holland deserve a WORLD CUP ! holland is not a big country but produce so many super star . we should thanks to cruyff , not to guy like abrasimovich who is destroying the beautiful game . we should respect club like ajax not the club like chelsea who just make the game losing beauty day by day .

Thanks for your support of Dutch football! I can only hope that you haven't seen our national team play of late, that might smash your romantic ideas I'm afraid.

[Lacavic]

Thanks for your support of Dutch football! I can only hope that you haven't seen our national team play of late, that might smash your romantic ideas I'm afraid.
nothing is impossible , who would think out greece win the euro cup before 2004 ? if holland cant win wc , football is surely to dead , if all country win wc like team brasil 2002 , who will like to watch it ? at least i am bored with brasil 2002 , portuese 2006 and greece 2004 and chelsea all the time , its so boring .

[Lacavic]

chelsea cant even shoot one time per twenty minutes , i dont like to watch them killing the whole talents with 11 super extremely strong man . its not football .

[Antonio81]

The worst thing that could ever happen to football is the street game getting taken out of it. Back in the 50s-70s European team's skill levels were not hugely different from South Americas. Once the street element started to dissapear(particularly in Germany) the teams ability stayed the same but the skill gap widened.

In South America, Africa, the Carribean, Middle East, France and Portugal its still alive and well though. Zidane used to throw down shopping carts in the street and use them for goals.

[johan neeskens]

Edgar Davids travelled around the world with a group of Dutch street footballers this past summer, there was a series of programmes made of the tour. Interestingly, they remained unbeaten even on the beaches and in the ghettos of Brazil, even though they did get into a massive fight in Brazil once and nearly ended up in prison. Here's some video material of the tour for those of you who are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFJhOJ9kYJg

[johan neeskens]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krZa-zbGLrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2FBAlB3Q_I

More footage. Just do a search for Edgar Davids Street Legends.

[Lacavic]

holland street football is very famous thanks to cruyff court.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

The worst thing that could ever happen to football is the street game getting taken out of it. Back in the 50s-70s European team's skill levels were not hugely different from South Americas. Once the street element started to dissapear(particularly in Germany) the teams ability stayed the same but the skill gap widened.

The main reason for that is style of coaching. In Europe kids are traditionally taught to get the ball and look for the best pass. If no pass is available then do something yourself. In South America it is the reverse.

[Bertje]

There shouldn't be any real coaching for the youth. Let them find out for themselves. That helps them get more creative (which is at a rather low level these days) and increases their personality.

Do you really think shouting at an eight-year old that he has to pass the ball instead of dribble is going to make him better? Thank god atleast Robben played at a small club for years where they don't do things like the above. Otherwise Holland wouldn't have one decent winger.

Van Persie is a typical street player, where have the rest gone? I will never forgive my primary school teachers for not letting me play football during the breaks. Arses.

[johan neeskens]

The main reason for that is style of coaching. In Europe kids are traditionally taught to get the ball and look for the best pass. If no pass is available then do something yourself. In South America it is the reverse.

You're generalising as if there's such a thing as a homogenous European football school. I can assure you that Dutch kids are taught the game in a completely different manner than Italian kids and English kids etc. In Holland the emphasis in teaching kids is on having fun and on teaching basic technical skills (in the Wiel Coerver school). Kids are encouraged to be as creative as possible and to try and get past defenders even when they fail. I can dig up a Robben video for you to prove my point; he was rubbish as a youngster as he dribbled and dribbled and dribbled yet failed to make an impression. Not a single coach told him to stop dribbling and pass the ball though.

[johan neeskens]

There shouldn't be any real coaching for the youth. Let them find out for themselves. That helps them get more creative (which is at a rather low level these days) and increases their personality.

Do you really think shouting at an eight-year old that he has to pass the ball instead of dribble is going to make him better? Thank god atleast Robben played at a small club for years where they don't do things like the above. Otherwise Holland wouldn't have one decent winger.

Van Persie is a typical street player, where have the rest gone?

There's plenty of those in Holland, they just don't play for Ajax at the moment.

[Bertje]

There's plenty of those in Holland, they just don't play for Ajax at the moment.

I prefer to have them at a high level, johan. ;)

We have some, sure, but they aren't good enough.

Though the position of winger is given too often to that fast player who can cover large distances instead of the really creative player. The really creative players all want to play as a 'number 10' these days.