August Edition of Ursuline 100

[MLSNHTOWN]

Defenders (30)
1. Gooch Onyewu
2. Steve Cherundolo
3. Carlos Bocanegra
4. N. Subotic
5. Heath Pearce
6. Jay Demerit
7. Jonathan Spector
8. Michael Parkhurst
9. Jim Conrad
10. Chad Marshall
11. Frankie Hedjuk
12. Marvell Wynne
13. Danny Califf
14. Corey Gibbs
15. Frankie Simek
16. Mike Orozco
17. Clarence Goodson
18. Jonathan Bornstein
19. Drew Moor
20. Michael Harrington
21. Bobby Boswell
22. Eddie Robinson
23.Chris Albright
24. Nat Borchers
25. Hunter Freeman
26. Marc Burch
27. Jason Hernandez
28. Nate Sturgis
29. Nick Garcia
30. Sean Franklin

[schrutebuck]

Wow Clint Dempsey came out of nowhere to impress in 2006.

[MLSNHTOWN]

Ursuline distinuished between attacking midfielders and wingers and central holding and defensive midfielders......Since we have Bradley, I think it should just be the bucket midfielders and the outside midfielders.

The outside Midfielders/Wingers
1. Landon Donovan (this is where Bob plays him, so this is where he goes on the depth chart)
2. Damarcus Beasley
3. Eddie Lewis
4. Sacha Kljestan (again where I think Bob plays him)
5. Bobby Convey
6. Robbie Rogers
7. Brad Davis
8. Stuart Holden(again where I think Bob plays him)
9. Colin Clark
10. Justin Mapp
11. Eddie Gaven
12. Jose Francisco Torres
13. Jeremiah White
14. Santino Quaranta
15. Arturo Alvarez


The Bucket Midfielders (15)
1. Maurice Edu
2. Mike Bradley
3. Ricardo Clark
4. Benny Feilhaber
5. Pablo Mastroeni
6. Kyle Beckerman
7. Danny Szetela
8. Jeff Larentowicz
9. Brain Carroll
10. Dax McCarty
11. Ramiro Corrales
12. Ben Olsen
13. Clyde Simms
14. Bryan Arguez
15. Jesse Marsch?

[sidefootsitter]

Zavagnin is retiring after this season..

You may strike him from that list.

[MLSNHTOWN]

Strikers (20)
1. Jozy Altidore
2. Clint Dempsey
3. Freddy Adu
4. Brian Ching
5. Kenny Cooper
6. Eddie Johnson
7. Taylor Twellman
8. Edson Buddle
9. Conor Casey
10. Chris Rolfe
11. Nate Jaqua
12. Robbie Findlay
13. Chad Barrett
14. Charlie Davies
15. Pat Noonan
16. Josh Wolff
17. Davy Arnaud
18. Ante Razov
19. Jeff Cunningham
20. Mike Magee

Retired: McBride (int'l)

10 Wildcards (in no order)
1. Geoff Cameron
2. Steve Ralston (doesn't really fit BB MF types)
3. Sal Zizzo
4. Adam Cristman
5. Lee Nguyen
6. Sammy Ochoa
7. Justin Braun
8. Kamani Hill
9. Brad Evans
10. Gabe Ferrari

[MLSNHTOWN]

Zavagnin is retiring after this season..

You may strike him from that list.

True.....I forgot to take out people that are going to retire this year....I put Marsch in his place....any other thoughts on who I might throw in their?

[sidefootsitter]

True.....I forgot to take out people that are going to retire this year....I put Marsch in his place....any other thoughts on who I might throw in their?
The bottom half of the Top 100 list is usually filled with long-shots, so one might leave a few spots for the recent U-17's and the U-20's - guys like Ellis McGloughlin at Hertha Berlin and Jared Jeffrey at Club Brugge.

PS. A general comment - back in 2002 (and I guess the Top 100 idea had been operational for longer than that), you had a few top guys but little depth, so a lot of players could have emerged from the MLS and the youth ranks to be valuable contributors later on.

The candidate list now is far more stretched with the top players legitimately being with some quality Euro clubs and others soon to join them.

That makes the long shots much ... longer.

There'd have to be a meteoric rise similar to Altidore's for some of the lower rated players to make a jump to the Top 30-35 and be in play for the 2014, let alone 2,010.

[MLSNHTOWN]

The bottom half of the Top 100 list is usually filled with long-shots, so one might leave a few spots for the recent U-17's and the U-20's - guys like Ellis McGloughlin at Hertha Berlin and Jared Jeffrey at Club Brugge.

PS. A general comment - back in 2002 (and I guess the Top 100 idea had been operational for longer than that), you had a few top guys but little depth, so a lot of players could have emerged from the MLS and the youth ranks to be valuable contributors later on.

The candidate list now is far more stretched with the top players legitimately being with some quality Euro clubs and others soon to join them.

That makes the long shots much ... longer.

There'd have to be a meteoric rise similar to Altidore's for some of the lower rated players to make a jump to the Top 30-35 and be in play for the 2014, let alone 2,010.


Looking back over the list, I agree regarding the difference between 2002 and the current list. Though I have to say that might be a little bit due to my ignorance of the really, really talented youth coming in. In other words, I am probably better taking off a player like Razov or Wolff and putting on some super talented young player in his place that has a ridiculous long shot chance at blowing up (like the PDL kid in Texas or Renken or the kid whose name begins with a G that I am forgetting).

[Lloyd Heilbrunn]

Davies is about 5 spots too low....at the very least he needs to be ranked higher than the guys he beat out for U23 spots.

[cpwilson80]

There'd have to be a meteoric rise similar to Altidore's for some of the lower rated players to make a jump to the Top 30-35 and be in play for the 2014, let alone 2,010.

Edu also pulled off an out-of-nowhere rise:

not called in for any youth US teams
becomes #1 pick in MLS draft
earns Rookie of the year
gets capped in the off- season
gets capped in a Qualifier this year
heads over one of the most famous clubs around
is now no lower than 3rd on our center mid depth chart (I agree with the #1 ranking here)


Thank you college ball for keeping Edu in the system!

[cpwilson80]

Looking back over the list, I agree regarding the difference between 2002 and the current list. Though I have to say that might be a little bit due to my ignorance of the really, really talented youth coming in. In other words, I am probably better taking off a player like Razov or Wolff and putting on some super talented young player in his place that has a ridiculous long shot chance at blowing up (like the PDL kid in Texas or Renken or the kid whose name begins with a G that I am forgetting).

And, as evidenced by the track record at Bradenton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMG_Soccer_Academy#Notable_graduates), it's a bit of a crapshoot anyway.

Nice work on the list!

[MLSNHTOWN]

Strikers (20)
1. Jozy Altidore
2. Clint Dempsey
3. Freddy Adu
4. Brian Ching
5. Kenny Cooper
6. Eddie Johnson
7. Taylor Twellman
8. Edson Buddle
9. Conor Casey
10. Chris Rolfe
11. Nate Jaqua
12. Charlie Davies
13. Robbie Findlay
14. Chad Barrett
15. Pat Noonan
16. Josh Wolff
17. Davy Arnaud
18. Ante Razov
19. Jeff Cunningham
20. Mike Magee

Retired: McBride (int'l)

10 Wildcards (in no order)
1. Geoff Cameron
2. Steve Ralston (doesn't really fit BB MF types)
3. Sal Zizzo
4. Adam Cristman
5. Lee Nguyen
6. Sammy Ochoa
7. Justin Braun
8. Kamani Hill
9. Brad Evans
10. Gabe Ferrari

Fixed the Davies point. I had ranked Findley higher because of his ability to play MF, but I agree that he should be higher than Barrett.

[GRUNT]

Edu also pulled off an out-of-nowhere rise:

not called in for any youth US teams
becomes #1 pick in MLS draft
earns Rookie of the year
gets capped in the off- season
gets capped in a Qualifier this year
heads over one of the most famous clubs around
is now no lower than 3rd on our center mid depth chart (I agree with the #1 ranking here)


Thank you college ball for keeping Edu in the system!

These are all things I knew, but never considered all together like this. Quite the fast track from relative nowhere. Impressive.

For better or worse, college in the US still helps fills the void that is occupied by true club systems in more mature footballing countries.

[sidefootsitter]

Edu also pulled off an out-of-nowhere rise ... Yes and it's not like it can't happen. It's just that it's harder to predict and arrange by a list.

I mean, a club like Ajax can pick up Marcus Tracy over the winter and spend the next 18 months polishing his skills to the point where he may become a viable candidate for the 2010 roster.

After all, it took Charlie Davies about the same time with Hammarby to really get going in the Swedish league.