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kopiteinkc
11 Apr 2003, 12:24 PM
While there is a link to the petition on our business thread at:
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=5116&perpage=15&pagenumber=6

I wanted to create this thread for us to be able to commemorate the 14th anniversary of the Hillsborough tragedy on April 15, 1989.

As long time posters know I was unfortunate enough to be there that day, but fortunate enough to survive.

I do feel very grateful for that and like many others also feel guilty for actually surviving. Odd how our human pysche works.

Anyway, post your thoughts, your links, whatever. No trolls please, I'll demand red cards for any sort of out of line comment.

My thoughts go out to the families who are most affected by this and to other survivors who still see those images and sounds very sharply in their memories.

My thoughts are with the teenager I swapped tickets with right outside the ground and wonder if he made it out ok. Never knew his name, dunno what happened to him.

Lanky134
11 Apr 2003, 12:42 PM
I first heard about Hillsborough shortly after I started following Liverpool in 1997. I guess I had heard the news when it happened - soccer riots, even though this wasn't one of them, tend to get reported overseas - but I didn't make any sort of connection at the time.

I just hope that one day, the truth does become a matter of public record and those responsible are properly penalized.

Motterman
11 Apr 2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
Anyway, post your thoughts, your links, whatever.

A terrible tragedy all around. Thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, thoughts of pain and much suffering to the responsible parties...

USsupport
11 Apr 2003, 01:24 PM
I remember watching it live on TV and at the time nobody, except those there, quite knew how bad it was. very sad.

Lanky134
14 Apr 2003, 03:24 PM
From the Echo:

THOUSANDS of people will stand on the Kop tomorrow to pay their respects to the 96 Hillsborough victims.

The Anfield service will include a minute's silence at 3.06pm, the time when Liverpool's ill-fated 1989 FA Cup semi final was halted when officials realised fans were being crushed on the terraces.

This year's service, the 14th, is again open to the public and will also be attended by up to 500 members of the victims' families as well as representatives of Liverpool Football Club and a choir from St Francis Xavier school.

It follows a minute's silence held on Saturday at Liverpool's home match against Fulham.

The inter-denominational service starts at 2.45pm. Doors open at 2pm and people are asked to take their seats by 2.20pm.

The service will be led by Father Desmond Power, the Rev Kelvin Bolton and the Rev Derek Bibb.

The first reading will be conducted by Royle Family star and lifelong Liverpudlian Sue Johnston.

Each victim's name will then be read out and a candle will be lit in their memory. A spokeswoman for Liverpool Football Club said: "As in previous years it is expected the service will be well attended and we would request people take their seats no later than 2.20pm.

"No tickets are required and an open invitation is extended to all for this annual act of remembrance."

In keeping with tradition the service will end with the singing of club anthem You'll Never Walk Alone.

The service is organised each year by the Hillsborough Family Support Group.

Chairman Trevor Hicks said: "It is important for us all to come together to remember our loved ones and to recall what we went through at Hillsborough and in the aftermath.

"As usual, everyone is welcome and the service will not deviate from tradition so anyone who has been before knows what to expect."

kopiteinkc
14 Apr 2003, 11:46 PM
Take a moment today to remember the 96.

Dave, your story of leaving your SE scarf at the Hillsboro' memorial was very moving.

Football fans united like never before after this tragedy. I gained a great deal of respect for real Man U and Everton fans after April 15, 1989.

"Walk On" and don't forget ....

Matt Clark
15 Apr 2003, 04:46 AM
In Rememberance

John Alfred Anderson (62)
Colin Mark Ashcroft (19)
James Gary Aspinall (18)
Kester Roger Marcus Ball (16)
Gerard Bernard Patrick Baron (67)
Simon Bell (17)
Barry Sidney Bennett (26)
David John Benson (22)
David William Birtle (22)
Tony Bland (22)
Paul David Brady (21)
Andrew Mark Brookes (26)
Carl Brown (18)
David Steven Brown (25)
Henry Thomas Burke (47)
Peter Andrew Burkett (24)
Paul William Carlile (19)
Raymond Thomas Chapman (50)
Gary Christopher Church (19)
Joseph Clark (29)
Paul Clark (18)
Gary Collins (22)
Stephen Paul Copoc (20)
Tracey Elizabeth Cox (23) James Philip Delaney (19)
Christopher Barry Devonside (18)
Christopher Edwards (29)
Vincent Michael Fitzsimmons (34)
Thomas Steven Fox (21)
Jon-Paul Gilhooley (10)
Barry Glover (27)
Ian Thomas Glover (20)
Derrick George Godwin (24)
Roy Harry Hamilton (34)
Philip Hammond (14)
Eric Hankin (33)
Gary Harrison (27)
Stephen Francis Harrison (31)
Peter Andrew Harrison (15)
David Hawley (39)
James Robert Hennessy (29)
Paul Anthony Hewitson (26)
Carl Darren Hewitt (17)
Nicholas Michael Hewitt (16)
Sarah Louise Hicks (19)
Victoria Jane Hicks (15)
Gordon Rodney Horn (20)
Arthur Horrocks (41) Thomas Howard (39)
Thomas Anthony Howard (14)
Eric George Hughes (42)
Alan Johnston (29)
Christine Anne Jones (27)
Gary Philip Jones (18)
Richard Jones (25)
Nicholas Peter Joynes (27)
Anthony Peter Kelly (29)
Michael David Kelly (38)
Carl David Lewis (18)
David William Mather (19)
Brian Christopher Mathews (38)
Francis Joseph McAllister (27)
John McBrien (18)
Marion Hazel McCabe (21)
Joseph Daniel McCarthy (21)
Peter McDonnell (21)
Alan McGlone (28)
Keith McGrath (17)
Paul Brian Murray (14)
Lee Nicol (14)
Stephen Francis O'Neill (17)
Jonathon Owens (18) William Roy Pemberton (23)
Carl William Rimmer (21)
David George Rimmer (38)
Graham John Roberts (24)
Steven Joseph Robinson (17)
Henry Charles Rogers (17)
Colin Andrew Hugh William Sefton (23)
Inger Shah (38)
Paula Ann Smith (26)
Adam Edward Spearritt (14)
Philip John Steele (15)
David Leonard Thomas (23)
Patrik John Thompson (35)
Peter Reuben Thompson (30)
Stuart Paul William Thompson (17)
Peter Francis Tootle (21)
Christopher James Traynor (26)
Martin Kevin Traynor (16)
Kevin Tyrrell (15)
Colin Wafer (19)
Ian David Whelan (19)
Martin Kenneth Wild (29)
Kevin Daniel Williams (15)
Graham John Wright (17)

Matt Clark
15 Apr 2003, 05:47 AM
Peter Hooton in the Guardian (http://www.football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,935567,00.html)

Lanky134
15 Apr 2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
Take a moment today to remember the 96.

Dave, your story of leaving your SE scarf at the Hillsboro' memorial was very moving.

Thanks, Mark. That was the most difficult part of the trip to write about - trying to capture the emotion of the moment.

liverbird
15 Apr 2003, 09:45 AM
When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high,
And don't be afraid of the dark.
At the end of a storm,
There's a golden sky,
And the sweet silver song of a lark.
Walk on through the wind, Walk on through the rain,
Though your dreams be tossed and blown...
Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone... You'll never walk alone.
Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone...
You'll never walk alone.

May they rest in Peace.

liverbird
15 Apr 2003, 09:55 AM
Steve Hunter at the officail site:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N139843030415-0858.htm

Lanky134
15 Apr 2003, 10:00 AM
http://www.chairboys.ndirect.co.uk/justice/mem_big.jpg

http://www.jazzarenas.com/images/memsitucent.jpg

liverbird
15 Apr 2003, 10:12 AM
From the Guardian, article on the Hillsborough Justice Campaign

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,936294,00.html

Poems:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,935529,00.html

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,936116,00.html

liverbird
15 Apr 2003, 10:29 AM
One final article from the Guardian:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,935611,00.html

LiverpoolFanatic
15 Apr 2003, 02:08 PM
May the pain in their hearts recede enough that they can find joy in the remainder of their lives. May those who are culpable for this tragedy be brought to final, complete, even-handed justice. May the memories of those who died that day never, ever fade from the minds and hearts who hold them so very dear.

Amen

Samarkand
18 Apr 2003, 10:58 PM
I still get irrationally angry when I remember that ********ing Australian arsehole of an editor at FHM trying to justify the desecration in his magazine last year.

Damon_D.
18 Apr 2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
Take a moment today to remember the 96.

Dave, your story of leaving your SE scarf at the Hillsboro' memorial was very moving.


can I read that somewhere?

Lanky134
18 Apr 2003, 11:21 PM
Here it is. I'm breaking it up into a few posts to because of the restrictions on post size:

Before the over-commercialization of sport made it possible to purchase just about anything with your club’s logo on it, the only way to show off your loyalty was the scarf. Not only did it keep your throat warm for singing and shouting obscenities at the referee, but you could hold it over your head with pride during the high points, and bury your face in it when you lost. There’s a story that, after Liverpool clinched the League Championship in 1973, Bill Shankly walked over to the Kop to acknowledge their support. Somehow a scarf came free from its owner and wound up under the boot of a policeman. According to the legend, Shanks chided the policeman by saying, “That scarf is someone’s life.” He then picked it up and tied it around his own neck. It was the ultimate gesture for a manager: “I am a Liverpool fan. I am no different from you,” it seemed to say. In the days following Hillsborough, soccer fans from all over the world sent scarves to the club in a show of support. At the memorial services, Liverpool and Everton supporters tied their scarves together form a chain around the Anfield pitch.

Lanky134
18 Apr 2003, 11:22 PM
If you look at the picture of us with the four trophies (http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/dslifton/vwp?.dir=/Pilgrimage+To+Macca&.src=ph&.dnm=Us+With+4+Trophies+From+2001.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/dslifton/lst%3f%26.dir=/Pilgrimage%2bTo%2bMacca%26.src=ph%26.view=t) , you might note that, although the scarf I am wearing is red, it is not a Liverpool scarf, but my Screaming Eagles one. I brought it with me with the intention of leaving it at the Hillsborough Memorial. As we got closer to the Shankly Gates, I realized that parting with it was going to be more difficult than I had thought. I got it on March 21, 1998 – DC United’s home opener, about an hour before I met Kim. That scarf has been with me all over America, and I hadn’t realized how much it meant to me until that very moment. Then I thought about the families and friends of the 96 who died, and how they lost something far more irreplaceable than a small piece of fabric. I removed it from my neck, gave it a final squeeze, and carefully placed it on the ledge next to some flowers. Just as I did, a young man who could pass for Danny Murphy (many guys in Liverpool look like Danny Murphy) walked by with two of his friends and crossed himself as he passed by. I took a few pictures, said goodbye, and walked across Anfield Road to Paul.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/dslifton/vwp?.dir=/Pilgrimage+To+Macca&.src=ph&.dnm=Hillsborough+Memorial.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/dslifton/lst%3f%26.dir=/Pilgrimage%2bTo%2bMacca%26.src=ph%26.view=t

Damon_D.
19 Apr 2003, 12:39 AM
thanks, very touching