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keeppah
09 Apr 2003, 02:11 PM
With your defensive problems, I'm just curious if
1) you'd consider trading Convey
2) who would you be willing to give up for:
Heaps
Kante
Pierce
Llamosa
Joseph
Franchino

What about a Heaps or Kante, plus Kamler? Who could the Revs get for that? I just want to see if there's any trades that both Revs and DC fans see as reasonable.

RMDad
09 Apr 2003, 02:15 PM
None

keeppah
09 Apr 2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by RMDad
None

Well, enjoy another year of watching Rimando flop around trying to make 20 saves a game then. Seriously, I would not give up Convey for pretty much anything if I was DC either. But I'm sure you can pick a few names off that roster that would be a fair trade for one of the Revs defenders.

shawn12011
09 Apr 2003, 02:26 PM
Possible Trade Bait:
Chino Alegria
Devin Barclay
Ali Curtis
Eliseo Quintanilla
Dema Kovalenko

Possible Targets:
Leo Cullen
Jay Heaps
Daniel Hernandez
Rusty Pierce


Kante is a SI and United has no room.

terp fan
09 Apr 2003, 02:27 PM
David Stokes is a natural man marker who can certainly cover the defensive responibilities as well as Reyes did. He won't provide as much going forward but rule one for a defender is defend. Ray has had nothing but praise for Stokes so way not put him out there? He can't become another Pope from the bench.

keeppah
09 Apr 2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by shawn12011
Possible Trade Bait:
Chino Alegria
Devin Barclay
Ali Curtis
Eliseo Quintanilla
Dema Kovalenko

Possible Targets:
Leo Cullen
Jay Heaps
Daniel Hernandez
Rusty Pierce


Kante is a SI and United has no room.

I didn't think of the SI implications. Who would it take to get Kovalenko?

grafh
09 Apr 2003, 02:39 PM
Kovalenko isn't going anywhere, other then that Shawn has that list perfect no one other then those few will be offered for a trade. I would have added Prideux and Namoff, but right now we need to keep any defender we have.

GoDC
09 Apr 2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by terp fan
David Stokes is a natural man marker who can certainly cover the defensive responibilities as well as Reyes did. He won't provide as much going forward but rule one for a defender is defend. Ray has had nothing but praise for Stokes so way not put him out there? He can't become another Pope from the bench.

I agree. Many young defenders have done well in MLS and those guys available in Columbus and NE are not super stars. He has two guys with some experience around him.

1True1
09 Apr 2003, 03:09 PM
quote:
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Originally posted by shawn12011
Possible Trade Bait:
Chino Alegria
Devin Barclay
Ali Curtis
Eliseo Quintanilla
Dema Kovalenko

Possible Targets:
Leo Cullen
Jay Heaps
Daniel Hernandez
Rusty Pierce


Kante is a SI and United has no room.
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I seriously doubt that Devin will be traded because A. he's injured and B. he hasn't proven himself valuable to DCU.

Eliseo might have proven himself too valuable as a scorer and a midfield strength with his improvement.

Chino and Ali are much more logical as trades - but who can we get for them? 2 for the price of 1??

Grasscutter
09 Apr 2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by keeppah
What about a Heaps or Kante, plus Kamler? Who could the Revs get for that? I just want to see if there's any trades that both Revs and DC fans see as reasonable.

Hmmmn. Kamler would be a good short-term fix, and he might not mind coming back to DC--he played for us in the Nov. friendly against Q2's old Salva team.

Kante is untouchable given his Revs' status and DCU history, and yes, you Revs fans should be gloating over that. And I, for one, could never forgive Pierce for the dive in the '01 U.S. Open.

David Stokes is a natural man marker who can certainly cover the defensive responibilities as well as Reyes did.

Rookie defenders have a bad track record in MLS, from Steve "Psychedelic" Shak on down. I feel good enough about Stokes and Namoff that I wouldn't consider jettisoning anyone above the Chino-bar for short-term help, but a Kamler or Oughton would help w/ depth.

The Magpie
09 Apr 2003, 03:23 PM
I'd be very surprised if the Revolution gave up anybody to help a conference rival.

The Magpie

GoDC
09 Apr 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Grasscutter


Rookie defenders have a bad track record in MLS, from Steve "Psychedelic" Shak on down. I feel good enough about Stokes and Namoff that I wouldn't consider jettisoning anyone above the Chino-bar for short-term help, but a Kamler or Oughton would help w/ depth.

Garcia, Bocanegra, Suarez.

johnaldo9
09 Apr 2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by GoDC
Garcia, Bocanegra, Suarez.

Thats what I was going to say, but I think Nelsen and Oughton held there own as well when they played in the back line as rookies

Th4119
09 Apr 2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by johnaldo9
Thats what I was going to say, but I think Nelsen and Oughton held there own as well when they played in the back line as rookies

Nelsen played D-mid most of his rookie season, and didn't do well at all.

The Kamlers have moved to NE full time now. I don't believe they kept any residence in this area and might be skeptical about coming and playing under RH, who could trade him for a 3rd time.

Lanky134
09 Apr 2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by The Magpie
I'd be very surprised if the Revolution gave up anybody to help a conference rival.

The Magpie
Well, there was that 6-player deal with a conference rival last year that worked out pretty good for you guys.

Sandon Mibut
09 Apr 2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by GoDC
Garcia, Bocanegra, Suarez. Thank you.

Toss in Rusty Pierce (29 starts as a rook), Dan Califf (16 starts, missed a lot of time for the Olympics), Jeff Stewart (20 starts last year), our own Mike Petke (25 starts in 98), Jim Curtin (12 starts in 2000) and Kelly Gray (Rookie-of-the-Year runner-up last year splitting time between back and MF.)

I think there's more than enough precedent to suggest that Stokes could do OK. Does that mean he's ready? No, that depends on how he's handling the adjustment to the pros. But, others have certainly done it and there's no reason Stokes couldn't do it if given the chance.

stopper4
09 Apr 2003, 04:46 PM
Certainly.

Starting Stokes might cost you short term (re: Gbandi vs. Kline growing pains), but if he's got the goods it will only help you out in the long term.