Whats Wenger going to do?

[433tom]

FIFA proposes the 6/5 rule. Six homegrown... Probably never happen in the EU.

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1653112,00.html

[Jabinho]

This is a Sepp Blatter idea so I don't think Wenger or anyone else will ever actually have to worry about it..;)

[433tom]

Ah, they would just go to the local pub and hire 6 locals, pay them a couple of quid to sit on the bench and watch the matches. :)

[Jabinho]

Ah, they would just go to the local pub and hire 6 locals, pay them a couple of quid to sit on the bench and watch the matches. :)
6+5=11.. I think Sepp has in mind that at any given time you must have 6 locals on the pitch...
That would sure change the balance in European football.. In what way, it's hard to say but it would make for an interesting debate..:)

[Achtung]

The G14 will fight it tooth and nail. This would potentially affect a number of their clubs, and I don't see them accepting this without at least protesting to the EU.

[Republic of Mancunia]

Suppose it comes down to what constitutes home-grown. I think similar proposals in the past have included players who have been at the club from a certain age or certain length of times. Some of the proposals also included players that had been in the country but at another team from a certain age.

i.e. players like Senderos, Diaby, Fabregas, Clichy etc. might still be classed as homegrown if they were to go along those lines again.

Anyone got the definitive definition for this latest propsal?

Don't Scotland already effectively implement something similar? I think they have something along the lines of 2 or 3 players having to be under 21 in the matchday squad which pretty much means they are home-grown talents on the most part.

[Charleysurf]

Yeah, somegrown does not have to mean English. Probably Rossi and Pique would be considered homegrown by us, even though we got them from the Barca youth system. Arsenal players like Cesc would be the same.
Chelsea would suffer more.

[RealMadGunner]

^Maybe they'll just buy more Englishmen ..

[holytoledo]

Suppose it comes down to what constitutes home-grown. I think similar proposals in the past have included players who have been at the club from a certain age or certain length of times. Some of the proposals also included players that had been in the country but at another team from a certain age.

i.e. players like Senderos, Diaby, Fabregas, Clichy etc. might still be classed as homegrown if they were to go along those lines again.

Anyone got the definitive definition for this latest propsal?

Don't Scotland already effectively implement something similar? I think they have something along the lines of 2 or 3 players having to be under 21 in the matchday squad which pretty much means they are home-grown talents on the most part.

Rule B8.1 in the Scottish League Handbook states that each team must have at least 3 U-21 outfield players in the 18 man match squad.

The complete handbook in .pdf format:
http://www.scotprem.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/3e/7c/0,,10002~31806,00.pdf

[Moederneuker]

He'll simply sign them when they are 8 and when they are 16 or summat they will fit in as home grown

[billyireland]

Too, too easy...

[Republic of Mancunia]

Rule B8.1 in the Scottish League Handbook states that each team must have at least 3 U-21 outfield players in the 18 man match squad.

The complete handbook in .pdf format:
http://www.scotprem.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/3e/7c/0,,10002~31806,00.pdf

Cheers mate, good to see my time as Aberdeen manager in FM 06 wasn't completely wasted as that's where I remembered it from. :)

[sdotsom]

A bit random, but when UEFA say local, what does that mean in the England? Guys like Fletcher, would they count towards this rule? At the moment, our English players would be

Rooney, Smudge, Scholes, Neville, Ferdinand, Carrick..then the guys I'm wondering about would be Fletch, Giggsy. I'm probably missing some people, but I'm really just wondering about the rule.

[Jabinho]

Yeah, somegrown does not have to mean English. Probably Rossi and Pique would be considered homegrown by us, even though we got them from the Barca youth system. Arsenal players like Cesc would be the same.
Chelsea would suffer more.
Since the stated objective of the proposed rule is to boost the national teams, it wouldn't make sense for them to be thinking of calling Rossi and the rest "homegrown" when he plays in England.. They mean players who qualify for the national team of the nation they play their club football in.. Rossi in Italy/USA.. Rooney in England.. etc.. Not which country they went to a youth academy or the team that gave them their first team starts..

[Republic of Mancunia]

Since the stated objective of the proposed rule is to boost the national teams, it wouldn't make sense for them to be thinking of calling Rossi and the rest "homegrown" when he plays in England.. They mean players who qualify for the national team of the nation they play their club football in.. Rossi in Italy/USA.. Rooney in England.. etc.. Not which country they went to a youth academy or the team that gave them their first team starts..

That would make more sense but remember this is Blatter we're talking about here. :) It's still a little confusing to me as past propsals of this nature have included foreign players brought up through academys irrespective of where they are born. Like this one for example.... http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20060414/ai_n16169243

It still remains to see what UEFA, and as already mentioned the EU and G-14 make of it all as it sounds like he's hoping they don't kick up a fuss. Unfortunately for him I can't see it being accepted without a fight.

[Moederneuker]

If Freddy Adu can be considered as home grown then Wenger can find the players. And the decision is with the intent of boosting national teams but it is down to the players. Reo-Coker is cockney but he can choose to play for Sierra Leone.

[Jabinho]

If Freddy Adu can be considered as home grown then Wenger can find the players. And the decision is with the intent of boosting national teams but it is down to the players. Reo-Coker is cockney but he can choose to play for Sierra Leone.
Freddy Adu is a US citizen who came here at the age of 8 and has played all his organized soccer here and played for US national teams..
Don't see how that has any meaning to this situation unless you are saying Wenger will just start looking for talented kids and get them naturalized in the UK before they even turn pro.. ;)

[Vermont Red]

My guess is that they will make the definition of "homegrown" broad enough that most clubs will have little trouble complying. For instance, "homegrown" may be defined a player who signed his first professional contact with that club or a player who comes to the club before a certain age.

[Moederneuker]

Freddy Adu is a US citizen who came here at the age of 8 and has played all his organized soccer here and played for US national teams..
Don't see how that has any meaning to this situation unless you are saying Wenger will just start looking for talented kids and get them naturalized in the UK before they even turn pro.. ;)My first statement...
He'll simply sign them when they are 8 and when they are 16 or summat they will fit in as home grown

My guess is that they will make the definition of "homegrown" broad enough that most clubs will have little trouble complying. For instance, "homegrown" may be defined a player who signed his first professional contact with that club or a player who comes to the club before a certain age.Homegrown should mean the players can play for the National teams of the countries they play in. "CAN" being the operative word here though.

[GrodZilla]

lol... all I have to say

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=389581&cc=5739

Not Wengers most surprising one..