View Full Version : MLS Jerseys = "RED" OVERKILL
napolivsavellino
07 Mar 2007, 07:48 PM
i completely forgot i started this thread!
this topic has been discussed more then enough....BUT....all im asking is for a little creativity...
dont even get me started on how my beloved raptors changed their colours......(even though i do hate the nickname raptors)...
Ultravolta
08 Mar 2007, 10:44 AM
I posted the following in a different forum, but it certainly makes more sense here...
I don't know if I can take another team using red and blue or shades of the two in MLS. I believe all but LA, Columbus, and Houston use shades of red, blue, or both. It's a little bit out of hand.
In the Premier League only Fullham is not using shades of red, blue or both. That's one out of twenty! And even Fullham is actually having red in their logo.
In La Liga it is 4 out of 20 with Real Madrid, Valencia, Betis Sevilla and Racing.
In Ligue 1 it's 4 out of 20 - Nantes, Saint-Étienne, Toulouse, and Lorient.
In the Serie A its 5 out of 20 - Udinese Calcio, Fiorentina, Palermo, Siena and Ascoli.
In the Bundesliga it's 5 out of 18 - Werder Bremen, Borussia Dortmund, Borussia Moenchengladbach, Wolfsburg and Alemania Aachen.
Looks like allmost everyone is unimaginative in Europes top leagues. Less than 20% are spared from red and blue! Well, since it's only 15% in MLS, there is much to worry about, of course...:rolleyes:
Red and blue are primary colors and they generally look good. So what's wrong with looking good? Would you rather have colors you can hardly wear, just to break the norm?! Don't you think that might reflect badly on the teams popularity? Or on jersey and merchandize sales? I mean, don't get me wrong, I also like to see originality, diversity and distinctiveness - but it's much more important to me that my team colors are attractive and wearable.
As long as people like the colors red and/or blue, teams will have it. And I don't see the day coming they abandon them in the States...
Ultravolta
08 Mar 2007, 10:58 AM
Here is an interesting read for you guys...
News
May 19, 2005
Scarlet Uniforms Linked to Success in Sports
By Sarah Graham
Competitive athletes are always seeking ways to improve their performance. The results of a new study indicate that they need only look in their closets. A paper published today in Nature suggests that athletes wearing red uniforms experience a slight advantage over those decked out in other colors.
Russell A. Hill and Robert A. Barton of the University of Durham analyzed the outcomes of four sporting events in the 2004 Summer Olympic Games: boxing, tae kwon do, Greco-Roman wrestling and freestyle wrestling. All of these competitions involved two-person matches in which the competitors were randomly assigned either red or blue outfits (or body protectors). Their results indicate that the crimson-clad athletes had a small, but statistically significant, advantage and won 60 percent of the time. This effect was seen only in symmetrical contests in which the participants were evenly matched, however, so a new red jersey won't suffice to haul an athlete out of last place.
The scientists also investigated the effect of red togs in team sports by analyzing results from the Euro 2004 international soccer tournament, in which teams wore different color uniforms throughout the event depending on their competition. Comparing five teams that had red shirts as one uniform choice, they discovered that the teams performed better--and scored more goals--when playing in red versus white or blue uniforms.
Hill and Barton surmise that the benefit of scarlet uniforms is tied to the evolutionary psychology of color. For a variety of animals, the authors note, red coloration is a sexually selected signal of male quality and the presence and intensity of red coloration correlates to male dominance and testosterone levels. Thus, athletes facing off against opponents sporting red uniforms might subconsciously feel thrown off their game. Hill and Barton conclude that further investigation in the field is warranted and that "the color of sportswear needs to be taken into account to ensure a level playing field in sport."
Source: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00012150-ADC5-128B-ADC583414B7F0000
El Naranja
08 Mar 2007, 03:28 PM
we have an old galaxy jersey which is total crap. it's a funky teal and the material feels like something you'd wear if you worked at taco bell. bizarre. i'd like to see some colors other than primary, but purple won't show up on the pitch, even green is iffy, especially in a place like giant's stadium (only 1 more season!). the red IS overkill, but what if we all went orange!?!
Dynamo fans would hunt everyone down and slaughter them:rolleyes:
That's our color. Get your own. Be creative like us and stand out for a change. ;)
Interesting piece about the red. But that doesn't explain why the Yankess were so successful for so long....'course they suck now and will continue to suck as they throw $$ at their problems....but that's for a different board. Hmm...the Cardinals and Red Sox won 2/3 of the WS the past two years....hmmm....
In MLS, though, the past 2 didn't have any red :D
CU912
19 Mar 2007, 11:00 PM
Im still waiting to see some Celtic Green on an MLS team.
Dr. Foosball™
20 Mar 2007, 01:49 AM
Im still waiting to see some Celtic Green on an MLS team.
I guess you haven't seen FCD's new alternate kit...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/wrhargis/stpattysjerseycopy.jpg
CU912
20 Mar 2007, 07:44 AM
I guess you haven't seen FCD's new alternate kit...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/wrhargis/stpattysjerseycopy.jpg
Those look pretty nice but im talkin about main colors of the club not just one alternate jersey.
MHaifa1913
27 Mar 2007, 10:51 AM
This could make it easier for the All Star game. Have all the MLS selections where their clubs red shirt when they play Sparta Prague or whatever mediocre European club they have coming this year.
El Naranja
27 Mar 2007, 01:04 PM
This could make it easier for the All Star game. Have all the MLS selections where their clubs red shirt when they play Sparta Prague or whatever mediocre European club they have coming this year.
Celtic FC this year :D
napolivsavellino
01 Apr 2007, 01:27 PM
I posted the following in a different forum, but it certainly makes more sense here...
In the Premier League only Fullham is not using shades of red, blue or both. That's one out of twenty! And even Fullham is actually having red in their logo.
In La Liga it is 4 out of 20 with Real Madrid, Valencia, Betis Sevilla and Racing.
In Ligue 1 it's 4 out of 20 - Nantes, Saint-Étienne, Toulouse, and Lorient.
In the Serie A its 5 out of 20 - Udinese Calcio, Fiorentina, Palermo, Siena and Ascoli.
In the Bundesliga it's 5 out of 18 - Werder Bremen, Borussia Dortmund, Borussia Moenchengladbach, Wolfsburg and Alemania Aachen.
Looks like allmost everyone is unimaginative in Europes top leagues. Less than 20% are spared from red and blue! Well, since it's only 15% in MLS, there is much to worry about, of course...:rolleyes:
Red and blue are primary colors and they generally look good. So what's wrong with looking good? Would you rather have colors you can hardly wear, just to break the norm?! Don't you think that might reflect badly on the teams popularity? Or on jersey and merchandize sales? I mean, don't get me wrong, I also like to see originality, diversity and distinctiveness - but it's much more important to me that my team colors are attractive and wearable.
As long as people like the colors red and/or blue, teams will have it. And I don't see the day coming they abandon them in the States...
VERY well said!!....
i myself would prefer to see teams go by their city name much like dallas and toronto or dc....in addition i dont like to see team colours chosen for no particular reason....id much rather see cities use theie city COLOURS...
here in TORONTO we have a city flag that is all royal blue with a white "T" and a bit of red....when choosing the bluejays, leafs, and argo colours they stuck to the formula...but then decided to go PURPLE for the raps (until recently)...and now RED with TFC.....oh well...
on a side note i do like TFC grey away kits ;)
mcnaulty21
03 Apr 2007, 08:57 PM
Red is likely the most popular color to use in uniforms.
Well, in terms of college basketball, blue is the most prevalent color. There have only been two times the last 24 years that neither of the teams in the final have not had blue in their unis.
revs
21 Apr 2007, 10:55 PM
I guess you haven't seen FCD's new alternate kit...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/wrhargis/stpattysjerseycopy.jpg
Is that for real? cuz if it is....thats awsome
sidis
22 Apr 2007, 12:39 AM
in brazil the most common is black-white combinations.
MasterShake
25 Apr 2007, 10:17 AM
United, FC and City are common additions to names of football teams all over the world.
MLS is not copying anyone by using that in say DC United or FC Dallas it is much better than LA Galaxy...who needs nicknames ??? especially as gay as Galaxy or Wizards (no offense to anyone) Usually the fans end up picking their clubs nickname.
EforEx
03 May 2007, 02:47 PM
United, FC and City are common additions to names of football teams all over the world.
MLS is not copying anyone by using that in say DC United or FC Dallas it is much better than LA Galaxy...who needs nicknames ??? especially as gay as Galaxy or Wizards (no offense to anyone) Usually the fans end up picking their clubs nickname.
L.A. Galaxy is like lets say Club America or Santos Brazil so what's in a name for a club in your region? Obviously L.A being a big city, recognized the world over, for it's stars, Hollywood, and the galaxy like cultural ethnic and racial divercity of this city I like the club name, by the way Galaxy will have a new logo and colors and that I agree with never a big fan of the green and gold colors!