Complete list of Foreigners in the MFL

[Various Styles]

AmériCrap.- Marcio Delvi "Fantick" (BRasil), Marcelo Lipatín (Uruguay), Iván Zamorano (Chile), Ricardo Rojas (Chile) y Hugo Castillo (Argentina).

Atlante.-Manuel GAlarcio (Colombia), Fabián Estay (Chile), Juan Paredes (Paraguay), Federico Vilar (Argentina) y Sebastián González (Chile).

Atlas.-Diego Rivarola (Argentina),Carlos María Morales (Uruguay), Martín Machón (GUatemala), José Luis Calderón (Argentina) y Rodrigo Valenzuela (Chile).

Atlético Celaya.-Jorge Jerez (Argentina), Mario Grana (Argentina), Diego Cagna (Argentina), Diego Latorre (Argentina) y Claudio da Silva (BRasil).

Cruz Azul.-Julio César Pinheiro (BRasil), Sebastián Abreu (Uruguay), Mariano Messera (Argentina) y Cristian Leiva (Argentina).

Jaguares de Chiapas.-Julio César Yegros (PAraguay), Alejandro Glaría (Argentina), Wilmer Ortegón (Colombia) y Oscar Rojas (COsta Rica).

Monterrey.-Flavio Rogeiro (Brasil), Argemiro Veiga (Brasil), Guillermo Franco (Argentina), Pablo Rotchen (Argentina) y Walter Erviti (Argentina).

Morelia.-Hernán Bujhan (Argentina), Darío Franco (Argentina), Diego Gavilán (Paraguay) y Alex Fernandes (Brasil).

Necaxa.-Alex Aguinaga (Ecuador), Juan Reynoso (Perú), Carlos Gutiérrez (Colombia) y Carlos Castro (Colombia).

Pachuca.-Walter Silvani (Argentina), Andres Chitiva (Colombia), Milton Núñez (Honduras), Juan Arango (Venezuela) y Miguel Calero (Colombia).

Puebla.-Jafet Soto (Costa Rica), Roberto Trotta (Argentina), Sergio Vázquez (Uruguay), Mauricio Serna (Colombia) y Milton Coimbra (Bolivia).

Pumas.-Alvaro Morales (Uruguay), Martín García (Uruguay), Rodrigo Lemos (Uruguay), Leandro Augusto (Brasil) y Emerson Dos Santos (Brasil).

Querétaro.-Diego Capria (Argentina), Cristian Traverso (Argentina), Richard Báez (Paraguay), Almir Do Souza (Brasil) y Josemir Lujambio (Uruguay).

Real San Luis.-Marcelo de Faria (Brasil), Roberto Carter (Chile), Harold Wallace (Honduras), Andrés Silva (Uruguay) y José Enrique García (Uruguay).

Santos.-Luis Romero (Paraguay), Denis Caniza (Paraguay), Javier Manjarín (España) y Rodrigo Ruiz (Chile).

Tecos.-Juan Manuel Azconzábal (Argentina), Patricio Camps (Argentina), Osmar Donizete (Brasil), Reynaldo Navia (Chile) y Roberto Palacios (Perú).

Tigres.-Maurilio Thomas (Brasil), Irenio Soares (BRasil), Enilton Menezes (Brasil) y Walter GAitán (Argentina)

Toluca.-José Saturnino Cardozo (Paraguay), Vicente Sánchez (Uruguay), Maximiliano Cuberas (Argentina) y Hernán Cristante (Argentina).

Veracruz.-Caelos Casarteli (Argentina), Angel Morales (Argentina), Martín Rodríguez (Uruguay), Pablo Galdames (Chile) y Alex Madrigal (Costa Rica).

[Various Styles]

Gabriel Caballero-------------Argentina----------------------Atlas
Sergio Verdirame-------------Argentina----------------------Monterrey
Antonio Mohamed-------------Argentina----------------------Celaya
Martín Boasso-----------------Argentina----------------------Pachuca
José Damasceno "Tiba"------Brasil---------------------------Santos
Antonio Naelson "Sinha"-----Brasil---------------------------Toluca
José Enrique García----------Uruguay------------------------San Luis

[Various Styles]

http://www.chivas.com.mx/img_comunes/titulo.gif

No Foreigners and the most League Championships "10"

[BrianCappellieri]

Thanks for the list.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Various Styles
http://www.chivas.com.mx/img_comunes/titulo.gif

No Foreigners and the most League Championships "10"

:rolleyes:

VS,

i would expect a little bit more common sense from you..

80% of Chivas titles were won during the 50s and 60s. Did you know that Mexico won its first WC game in 62? Do you see where I am going with this? Have you noticed the correlation between the internationalization of the MFL and the decrease in Chivas throughout the years? Fact is, Mexico sucked in the 30s,40s,50s, & 60s (at the international level).

IF you want an all Mexican team, there is always the Mexican NAtional team.

[Alex_1]

Originally posted by rdl674


IF you want an all Mexican team, there is always the Mexican NAtional team.

Tell that to Luis Hernandez :p

[Tick]

Okay, this is NOT meant as a troll. I'm honestly asking for opinions on this...

Why are there no Americans in the MFL?

I can't really think of a reason. There are American players who are good enough for the MFL, and from what I understand, MFL pays more than MLS. So it would make sense for American players to go to the MFL.

Is there some reluctance by MFL teams to take Americans? Or are Americans not interested in playing in the MFL? Or am I missing something obvious?

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Alex_1


Tell that to Luis Hernandez :p

if the government recognizes an individual as a citizen, then he is Mexican whether we like it or not.

The current dilemna about a lot of players wanting to nationalize themselves Mexican should not even be an issue. If you want to solve the problem, start from the root.. Monitor who comes in. Its that simple. I agree with Hugo Sanchez on this one. I am not against having foreigners in our league, but make sure they are better than the ones we have. There is no need to have players like Tibia or Claudihno or Faria or Colimbra(sp) in the MFL. You have the LEon's, LA Piedad's, Neza's to thank for that. Instead of using that money on youth, they hire those type of players. The problem about having old players from SOuth America is almost inexistant.. which is a plus..

A player, born or nationalized, should have every right to play for the national team. I disagree with nationaising one just for the sole purpose of playing for the national team...but that just goes back to monitor who comes in and who stays out..

[Mattinho]

Where's Frankie Oviedo from?

[sidspaceman]

Colombia

[highgarden]

There are a lot of Argentines in the MFL. Is the pay better than it is in Argentina? (before Argentina's economy bottomed out)

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Tick
Okay, this is NOT meant as a troll. I'm honestly asking for opinions on this...

Why are there no Americans in the MFL?

I can't really think of a reason. There are American players who are good enough for the MFL, and from what I understand, MFL pays more than MLS. So it would make sense for American players to go to the MFL.

Is there some reluctance by MFL teams to take Americans? Or are Americans not interested in playing in the MFL? Or am I missing something obvious?

I dont mean to troll either, but the general consensus in Mexico is that Americans and the US is still an inferior league and team. That could be a reason why there have not been too many Americans in the MFL. Just like there has not been a lot of Central Americans, Carribeans, etc. I guess they feel they dont want to downgrade. I am not sure how much the World Cup loss to the US is going to change that because the world just took that as an upset (like it or not). The only thing it did do is wake up the FMF. If you notice, the Mexican NAtional team still doesnt have a coach and they dont plan to get one for quite some time. All thier resources are going towards the sub 15,17,20,& 23 teams.

Also, Americans are also to blame for their inexistance in the MFL.. The few Central Americans that play in the MFL make it a point to play in MExico. They go through great lengths to try and play in the MFL. Some of the central Americans that play in the MFL have the same sports agent and thats is why they are able to play because they have a brigde. US players dont have that. Steve Sampson could change that. word has it that he is in cahoots with a couple of the Mexican execs.

[Various Styles]

80% of Chivas titles were won during the 50s and 60s.

Correction, that would be 70% of their titles most of which were won back to back to back...

1956-57, 58-59, 59-60, 60-61, 61-62, 63-64, 64-65.

Did you know that Mexico won its first WC game in 62?

Guess who made up the majority of that Squad ?

Do you see where I am going with this? Have you noticed the correlation between the internationalization of the MFL and the decrease in Chivas throughout the years?

Chivas is still the only Mexican Club to have Won a Championship each Decade:

1969-70, 1986-87, 1997-98 Dont Hate Congratulate :D

[Various Styles]

Why are there no Americans in the MFL?

Very few have been offered contracts. I can remeber Wynalda's back injury leaving him out of Leon. Then Coby Jones turned down an offer from Tecos (instead he went to try out with Coventry) a while back Pumas wanted Josh Wolff and just recently Atlas tried to get Landon Donovan on loan..

I can't really think of a reason. There are American players who are good enough for the MFL, and from what I understand, MFL pays more than MLS. So it would make sense for American players to go to the MFL.

The MLS doesnt want to let go of its star players. Most of their foreigners are real old and they really havent gotten any more players, all they have is their home grown talent, take that away and the MLS could really Suck..

Is there some reluctance by MFL teams to take Americans? Or are Americans not interested in playing in the MFL? Or am I missing something obvious?

No reluctance, Many Americans have played in the MFL before. The thing is MFL Clubs can now get quality South Americans on Wholesale due to the economic crisis in S.A.

[toot86]

No reluctance, Many Americans have played in the MFL before. The thing is MFL Clubs can now get quality South Americans on Wholesale due to the economic crisis in S.A. [/QUOTE]


LoL that is sooo true...... But I would liked to see Cruz Azul get Riquelme ...

Hey is Ortega from the Argentina team still playing in Argentina?

[Various Styles]

I would liked to see Cruz Azul get Riquelme.

Riquelme is allready with Barcelona..

Hey is Ortega from the Argentina team still playing in Argentina?

Ortega now belongs to Ferenbache of the Turkish first division. Damn toot you are way behind your footy news..

[toot86]

I knew Riquelme was in Barcelona but i ment to say.;.. I would liked that Cruz Azul would of snatched him up b4 barca....

And Ortega i REALLY didint know ... But i knew he was the only player on the Argi NT that wasnt playing in Europe... So i wondered in this Economic Crisis would he still be playing in Argie land.

I guess no one wants to stay in argentina... Hope we can benifet from this..

[el mofles]

Originally posted by Various Styles
Gabriel Caballero-------------Argentina----------------------Atlas
Sergio Verdirame-------------Argentina----------------------Monterrey
Antonio Mohamed-------------Argentina----------------------Celaya
Martín Boasso-----------------Argentina----------------------Pachuca
José Damasceno "Tiba"------Brasil---------------------------Santos
Antonio Naelson "Sinha"-----Brasil---------------------------Toluca
José Enrique García----------Uruguay------------------------San Luis


THere's arguable two on that list (Sinha and Jose Enri) that seem outclassed by the rest, thus making their citizenship look more like a career move. If putting it in terms of paying dues to the league with good futbol over the years then the rest did earn their extra years of MFL.

Cobi's mentality was logical with the Tecos deal. Instead of getting on the plane to just sign a contract fresh off the plane, he decided to roll the dice with some bottom table-dwelling team.

[Darr]

Originally posted by toot86

LoL that is sooo true...... But I would liked to see Cruz Azul get Riquelme ...

Hey is Ortega from the Argentina team still playing in Argentina? [/B]

Ortega signed to play in the Turkish league... One of the big two I believe...

[Hank Rearden]

Here is the list of foreigners in the 1A:


nombre lugar de nacimiento goles JJ minutos equipo
César Alejandro Alexenicer Argentina 10 7 630 A. Chiapas
Antonio Barbosa Brasil 2 2 180 A. Chiapas
Héctor Horacio Gimenes Uruguay 14 12 1080 A. Mexiquense
Horacio Nicolás Erpen Argentina 4 4 360 A. Mexiquense
Juan Carlos Centurión Paraguay 10 9 810 Acapulco
Alexis Javier García Argentina 0 1 80 Acapulco
Miguel Angel Larrosa Uruguay 5 6 503 Aguascalientes
Juan Augusto Gómez Argentina 3 5 369 Aguascalientes
Cristian Alfonso Cásseres Venezuela 3 3 270 Bachilleres
José Carlos Dias Brasil 10 10 856 Cobras de Cd. Juárez
Marcelo Verón Argentina 2 3 203 Cobras de Cd. Juárez
Eleandro Luis Schroeder Brasil 2 2 180 Cobras de Cd. Juárez
Alessandro Correa Brasil 1 2 100 Cobras de Cd. Juárez
Marco Antonio De Almeida Brasil 6 4 360 Correcaminos
Daniel Rosello Uruguay 6 7 630 Correcaminos
José Carlos Cancela Uruguay 9 6 540 Cruz Azul Hgo.
Juan Manuel Zandona Argentina 1 1 90 Cruz Azul Hgo.
Éder Pacheco Brasil 1 1 90 Cruz Azul Hgo.
Jhon Jairo Culma Colombia 1 0 0 Cruz Azul Hgo.
Adrián Lionel Cano Argentina 10 8 712 Durango
Édson Luis Zwaricz Brasil 3 3 270 Durango
Julián Martín Alianiello Argentina 2 2 167 Nacional Tijuana
Diego Alberto Landeiro Argentina 0 1 73 Nacional Tijuana
Víctor Danilo Pacheco Colombia 8 5 444 Oaxaca
Roque Daniel Galeano Argentina 2 2 180 Oaxaca
Walter Rodrigo Fleita Argentina 2 2 154 Oaxaca
Andrés José Carevic Argentina 1 2 175 Oaxaca
Aldo Adorno Paraguay 1 1 90 Oaxaca
Oscar Ariel González Argentina 15 8 720 Querétaro
Josías Ferreira Brasil 5 5 450 Querétaro
Mauro Néstor Gerk Argentina 3 3 270 Querétaro
Roberto Rodrigo Cartes Chile 2 2 180 Querétaro
José Enrique García Uruguay 12 9 810 San Luis
Édson Marcelo de Faría Brasil 5 4 360 San Luis
Ricardo David Páez Venezuela 1 1 90 San Luis
Jonathan Martínez extranjero 0 1 78 San Luis
Héctor Carlos Alvarez Argentina 13 10 900 Tampico Madero
Rodolfo Gustavo Flores Argentina 3 2 180 Tampico Madero
Carlos Leonardo Morales Paraguay 3 2 180 Tampico Madero
Williams de Oliveira Brasil 1 1 79 Tampico Madero
Valtencir Gomes Brasil 6 5 450 Tigrillos
Juan Junior Sastoque Estados Unidos 1 1 90 Tigrillos
Lucas Emanuel Ayala Argentina 0 1 43 Tigrillos
Carlos Germán Arangio Argentina 10 8 657 Toros Neza
Adrián Claudio Marini Argentina 5 5 382 Toros Neza
Alberto Martín Vargas Argentina 0 1 58 Toros Neza
Carlos David Casartelli Argentina 9 8 708 Veracruz
Diego Raúl Melillo Argentina 4 4 360 Veracruz
Gustavo Germán Gorsd Argentina 1 2 156 Veracruz
Raúl Eduardo Gordillo Argentina 1 1 90 Veracruz
Carlos Alberto Fretes Argentina 7 5 450 Zacatecas
Julio César Colman Paraguay 7 6 540 Zacatecas
Hernán Darío Panero Argentina 0 1 87 Zacatecas
Javier Gerardo Lima Uruguay 0 1 88 Zacatecas
Cristian Gabriel Torres Argentina 11 8 720 Zacatepec
Pablo Alberto Bocco Argentina 4 3 270 Zacatepec
Amado Guevara Honduras 2 2 180 Zacatepec
Juan Martín Parodi Uruguay 2 2 180 Zacatepec
Luis Gabriel Rey Colombia 7 5 450 Zitácuaro
Néstor Raúl Cuadros Colombia 2 2 180 Zitácuaro
Héctor Federico Carballo Argentina 0 2 108 Zitácuaro