View Full Version : Poplar Point presentation from the AWC
b1968k
12 Oct 2006, 01:50 PM
Feel free to merge if you think this belongs with either the Congressional or stadium threads.
http://www.anacostiawaterfront.net/ (http://www.anacostiawaterfront.net/)
Link dated 10/12
TMD had it right in his summary the other day. They are looking for small scale retail and mostly affordable housing. I'm not sure how that would work financially. Placed the stadium, hotel and big box retail under a "proposed" heading.
Seems like the only decisions being made at this point are 1. that this development will be slow to evolve, and 2. the development will be centered around an extension of Howard road and the Metro garage.
They used the same graphics they've had for the past several years.
TMDSoccer
12 Oct 2006, 02:16 PM
Feel free to merge if you think this belongs with either the Congressional or stadium threads.
http://www.anacostiawaterfront.net/ (http://www.anacostiawaterfront.net/)
Link dated 10/12
TMD had it right in his summary the other day. They are looking for small scale retail and mostly affordable housing. I'm not sure how that would work financially. Placed the stadium, hotel and big box retail under a "proposed" heading.
Seems like the only decisions being made at this point are 1. that this development will be slow to evolve, and 2. the development will be centered around an extension of Howard road and the Metro garage.
They used the same graphics they've had for the past several years.
I unfortunately could not make it to the public meeting. I heard from a friend that there were a couple of hundred people there, including one of the PR people from DCU. There was no mention of the stadium or how any of this would be financed.
There is some concern about environmental issues, none of which were discussed in depth, but related to flooding and Anacostia water quality.
I'm surprised there was no mention in the post or any other news outlet I could find.
b1968k
12 Oct 2006, 02:32 PM
I unfortunately could not make it to the public meeting. I heard from a friend that there were a couple of hundred people there, including one of the PR people from DCU. There was no mention of the stadium or how any of this would be financed.
There is some concern about environmental issues, none of which were discussed in depth, but related to flooding and Anacostia water quality.
I'm surprised there was no mention in the post or any other news outlet I could find.
Based on some of the questions they asked at the end of the presentation, I'd be interested to hear the answers. If I lived in Anacostia and thought that the development of this site was going to improve my quality of life - grocery store, sit down restaurants, etc - I'd be a little dissapointed (particularly in the glacial pace they are planning).
Hedbal
12 Oct 2006, 02:51 PM
The "27,000 seat soccer stadium" just snuck in there by stealth, and was undercut by the graphic of the Princeton stadium, which looks much larger than what we have in mind and probably alarmed residents. Also, the graphic showing kids and a coach on a recreational soccer field showed mostly white people. Not very clever.
scarshins
12 Oct 2006, 03:00 PM
The "27,000 seat soccer stadium" just snuck in there by stealth, and was undercut by the graphic of the Princeton stadium, which looks much larger than what we have in mind and probably alarmed residents. Also, the graphic showing kids and a coach on a recreational soccer field showed mostly white people. Not very clever.
AWC conspiracy? It was their presentation, right? Maybe they chose the graphics not DCU...
Hedbal
12 Oct 2006, 03:01 PM
AWC conspiracy? It was their presentation, right? Maybe they chose the graphics not DCU...
I'm sure they did - and if so, they didn't do DCU any favors.
scarshins
12 Oct 2006, 03:15 PM
If it goes down that path, screw it. I say that strictly as a fan, of course, I'm sure the team thinks otherwise.
But DC can be so sad- and frustrating- they would improve things but they're too busy shooting themselves in the foot.
RFK parking lot. :rolleyes:
dcchelseafc
12 Oct 2006, 03:20 PM
wow, they showed the new awful princeton stadium? the old stadium there was so much better......i hate that new one, plus it will look NOTHING like the dcu stadium(well lets all pray and hope not)
looks to me were going to get the shaft.....im saying rfk parking lot also!
revelation
12 Oct 2006, 03:21 PM
Also, the graphic showing kids and a coach on a recreational soccer field showed mostly white people.
But only white people play soccer....
http://web.mlsnet.com/images/2006/06/02/I6wN9XYb.jpg
:rolleyes:
b1968k
12 Oct 2006, 05:37 PM
RFK parking lot. :rolleyes:
Maybe not so far off.
There was an article in the Post (I think, I'm having toruble finding it) the other day discussing the future of RFK and the fact that the Feds own the land. If the city tries to use the land for anything other than sports, it reverts back to federal control.
They could put a SSS in Lot 8 and bump it up by the development that will happen on the old hospital site. If DC had won the Olympic bid, it would have been there.
MattMathai
12 Oct 2006, 05:37 PM
But only white people play soccer....
http://web.mlsnet.com/images/2006/06/02/I6wN9XYb.jpg
:rolleyes:
Damn, you'd think he'd have burned up getting that tan...
Big Roy
12 Oct 2006, 08:31 PM
wow, they showed the new awful princeton stadium? the old stadium there was so much better.
Never went to the old Princeton stadium, but I did go to a football game at the new one a couple of years ago and thought it was absolutely gorgeous. It has great sight lines, easy to get to seats, concessions and restrooms. Basically everything you would want in a DCU stadium. Obviously the facade screams college football, maybe we could get a Temple Bar type facade.
seahawkdad
12 Oct 2006, 10:18 PM
So we'll know what we're referencing:
http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/Ivy/Princeton/newaerial.jpg
Unless it's Princeton's Weaver Track and Field Stadium they showed:
http://www.princeton.edu/%7Eoktour/virtualtour/Images/Expansions/WeaverExp.jpg
Big Roy
13 Oct 2006, 08:59 AM
Pics in the slide deck were definitely of the football stadium. But we digress.....
I think the important thing is that DCU is trying to make nice with the new neighbors.
scarshins
13 Oct 2006, 10:14 AM
Never went to the old Princeton stadium....
Grew up going there. A classic old concrete horseshoe, no seats, tall arches formed by rectangular pillars on the outside...gravel ambiance inside. The concrete got old, it needed renovating.
I wonder if there's any feasibility to renovating RFK...rebuilding the entire lower bowl as a SSS...
John L
13 Oct 2006, 01:10 PM
Feel free to merge if you think this belongs with either the Congressional or stadium threads.
http://www.anacostiawaterfront.net/ (http://www.anacostiawaterfront.net/)
Link dated 10/12
TMD had it right in his summary the other day. They are looking for small scale retail and mostly affordable housing. I'm not sure how that would work financially. Placed the stadium, hotel and big box retail under a "proposed" heading.
Seems like the only decisions being made at this point are 1. that this development will be slow to evolve, and 2. the development will be centered around an extension of Howard road and the Metro garage.
They used the same graphics they've had for the past several years.
Well - They have to start somewhere - Expansion of the Metro Garage and Extension of Howard and Good Hope Rds would be necessary for any scale of development there - That plus adding utilities - Maybe when Davis et al. purchases the team, their horizons will expand - But for now, and esp if nobody buys United, they have to take baby steps
Foousic
13 Oct 2006, 02:56 PM
Grew up going there. A classic old concrete horseshoe, no seats, tall arches formed by rectangular pillars on the outside...gravel ambiance inside. The concrete got old, it needed renovating.
I wonder if there's any feasibility to renovating RFK...rebuilding the entire lower bowl as a SSS...
That ideas been tossed around before, and shot down everytime... too expensive, it would be amazing though... i think
hala-cosmos
13 Oct 2006, 03:04 PM
I wonder if there's any feasibility to renovating RFK...rebuilding the entire lower bowl as a SSS...
the only problem with this scenario is we won't have the chance to tear out the old seats for souveneirs.
And do we really need rfk looking more like a construction site than it already does?
scarshins
13 Oct 2006, 03:08 PM
the only problem with this scenario is we won't have the chance to tear out the old seats for souveneirs.
Who says :D
b1968k
16 Oct 2006, 09:29 AM
Blurb in the WP business section, emphasis is mine.
Washington Post Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/15/AR2006101500601.html)
The Anacostia Waterfront Corp. last week showed neighborhood residents preliminary plans for redevelopment at Poplar Point. The property, across from the Washington Navy Yard on the east side of the Anacostia River, is expected to be transferred from the federal government to the District after Senate approval next month, said Adrian Washington, AWC's president and chief executive.
The project would include a mix of high- and low-rise rental buildings and townhouses, retail and park space. The land also could be the site of a D.C. United soccer stadium or a hotel.
The meeting was the first in a series of community forums about the 110-acre park, more than half of which will remain open space. Washington said the AWC should have a draft proposal by year-end, and he hopes to present it to the D.C. Council early next year.
In past discussions, many residents favored a soccer stadium. D.C. Council member Marion Barry (D-Ward 8) initially opposed a stadium but later supported it.
Arrington Dixon, chairman of the Anacostia Coordinating Council, a neighborhood volunteer group, said his priority was that the project not be separated from the rest of Anacostia.
"We do want to nurture the existing residents and businesses of Anacostia," said Dixon, a lifelong neighborhood resident. "We don't want something that won't give us positive feedback."