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Danners9
02 Oct 2006, 06:31 PM
Today has been a bad day, I am actually really upset by reading this... I know I don't 'know' anyone involved but still.. have a read:

PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A lone gunman walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday and opened fire, killing six people, according to initial reports.

The gunman then shot and killed himself, police said.

The shooting took place at Wolf Rock School in Paradise, a school run by the Amish community with about 27 students in grades 1 through 8.

The man ordered some students to leave before opening fire on the remaining students, said state police spokesman Jack Lewis. (Watch aftermath of deadly school shooting -- 2:00)

Lewis told CNN that the gunman shot and killed at least three students and a county coroner told The Associated Press that at least 6 people had been killed in the shooting.

A number of other children have been seriously injured, he said.

He said he did not know the motive for the attack. (Watch police investigate shooting scene -- 1:00)

"So far, six confirmed dead, and the helicopters are pulling into (Lancaster General Hospital) like crazy," said Coroner G. Gary Kirchner, according to AP.

It was unclear if the shooter was among the six, according to AP. State Police Cpl. Ralph Striebig told AP earlier that the shooter was dead.

Lancaster General Hospital initially received three young patients, ages 6 to 15 -- one in critical condition -- and expects to receive three more patients soon, spokeswoman Kim Hatch told CNN shortly after 1 p.m.

The three initial patients were transferred to other hospitals: two to Hershey Medical Center and the other to Children's Hospital in Philadelphia, she said.

At least two people were taken away from the scene of the shooting on stretchers to an awaiting ambulance and medical helicopter.

Lancaster County's 911 Web site reported dozens of emergency vehicles -- including at least nine ambulances -- were dispatched to Bart Township shortly before 11 a.m. for a "medical emergency." The Lancaster County emergency communications Web site showed 20 incident calls listed to the normally quiet Bart Township at 10:48 a.m.

Shortly after the attack, men, women and girls in traditional Amish clothing gathered in small groups outside the country schoolhouse along a dirt road. Horse-drawn carriages could be seen in a nearby parking lot.

The attack was the nation's third deadly school shooting in a week.

On Wednesday, a 53-year-old man entered a high school in Bailey, Colorado, where he held several female students hostage at gunpoint. He shot one girl before killing himself seconds after a SWAT team stormed inside the classroom.

A high school student near Madison, Wisconsin, is suspected of fatally gunning down his principal on Friday, after he was disciplined for carrying tobacco and being bullied.

Then:

PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A 32-year-old truck driver walked into an Amish schoolhouse Monday, binding and shooting three girls execution-style before killing himself, police said Monday.

Seven other girls were wounded in the attack, which police said appeared to be a revenge killing for an incident that occurred two decades ago.

"It seems as though he wanted to attack young female victims, and this is close to his residence. That's the only reason we can figure that he went to the school," said Commander Jeffrey Miller, Pennsylvania State Police.

"It's a horrendous crime scene," he said. (Watch how the gunman got in and what he did -- 7:44 )

The shooting took place at Wolf Rock School in Paradise, a school run by the Amish community with about 27 students in grades 1 through 8. One of the children died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. (Watch police investigate shooting scene -- 1:00)

The wounded girls were taken to several hospitals in the central Pennsylvania area, some of them with gunshot wounds to the head. The victims range in age from 6 to 13, he said.

The gunman, Charles Carl Roberts IV, drove a commercial milk truck, said Miller. He was not Amish, was not previously wanted by authorities and had no known criminal history. The Bart, Pennsylvania, resident had three children, and left several notes for his family "along the lines of suicide notes," Miller said.

The commissioner said Roberts had worked a shift that ended about 3 a.m. Monday and taken his children to their bus stop before beginning his rampage.

Police said he had barricaded himself in the schoolhouse with two-by-four and two-by-six pieces of lumber, which he brought to the scene in a borrowed pickup truck. He did not respond to efforts by police to make contact with him.

Gunman let boys go
Miller said that during the attack, Roberts apparently told students to line up in front of the blackboard. He began to tie his female captives' feet together. He let the 15 boys in the classroom leave.

Miller said Roberts also allowed an adult female who was pregnant to leave with three other adult females who had infant children with them.

The teacher who was released was able to alert authorities, Miller said. Miller said Roberts called his wife while he was inside the school. She said that he told her that he couldn't go on any more, and he was getting revenge for something that happened 20 years ago.

"Apparently, there was some sort of an issue in his past that for some reason, he wanted to exact revenge against female victims. That's all I can tell you right now," Miller said.

Danners9
02 Oct 2006, 06:32 PM
Seriously... what is wrong with this world. :(

Colm
03 Oct 2006, 08:27 AM
Horrible, really sickening :( :(

Really really sad. :(

The problem is theres loads of nutters like him out there. That guy just dropped is kids off to school aswell.

PoshSpur
03 Oct 2006, 09:12 AM
It bothered me so much too :(
Out of all the people that fool could have hurt, he picked on the most innocent people in the States. A defenceless people. :(
It makes me sick :(

IvanIV
03 Oct 2006, 09:56 AM
Awful. He could have made the same statement by just killing himself and leaving a note. Retard, said he had a 20 year old grudge to settle.

Adding insult to injury, the parents of the wounded girls wouldn't take a helicopter to the hospital to join their wounded children. They insisted on riding in a van instead. How could you not want to get there as quick as possible?


I'm almost positive not everyone in America needs a gun.....

Danners9
03 Oct 2006, 11:59 AM
He could have done the world a massive favour and killed himself on sunday instead.

That whole community is going to be devastated now. Parents hampered by tradition unable to go see their kids when the kids need them most. A large proportion of a very small school wiped out.

Before I read the report I was laughing and joking with the nice girl behind the bar, and when I saw it I just went silent and lost all the smiles. She wondered what was wrong, I began to tell her and she stopped me halfway through because it was so upsetting.

********ing people, it angers me so much. I've been to Lancaster, PA and many of the little villages around there and how anyone can take offense or bear a grudge against anyone there is beyond me. All they do is help others and keep their own traditions to themselves. *sigh*

AllWhitebeliever
03 Oct 2006, 12:26 PM
Very sad...whatever issue he had, he was only 12 years old, twenty years ago when the issue happen. How could anything be such a grudge from childhood? Was he teased by his female classmates twenty years ago? Sounds very strange.

Fox news said that he used the recent shooting at the high school in Bailey as his template for the shooting. The whole thing is such a shock for his own family and relatives as well. It was very out of character according to them.

Just impossible to fathom the minds of people. It goes to show that the mind can play tricks that are very different to a person's behaviour. But the innate problem is that one can only judge another persons action before reacting to it and most personal secrets are usually hidden away from others.

I guess that a person can show everything is fine but reality is far from the truth. Admittedly, what people don't have some problems at all? Its part of our crazy make-up to have some fallacy in something. I just saw the latest released video recording of two hijackers in 9/11 joking around, being friendly and acting with normal emotions before conveying their beliefs on the video, filmed about a year before the 9/11 attacks. By looking at them, you would think that they were madly considering the suicide terrorist attacks. They acted like anyone you would know.

Very sad day for the Amish community, they had no connection to this guys grudge, just an easy target.

:(

AllWhitebeliever
03 Oct 2006, 04:55 PM
An update on that shooter. . .

He had left some indications in his sucide notes that he blames God for the lost of his premature daughter 9 years ago and told his wife in a suicide note he had been dreaming about repeating his purported molestation of two younger female relatives 20 years ago -before killing himself.

There was no evidence of sexual assault, quoted ""it's very possible that ... he intended to victimise these children in many ways prior to killing them and killing himself". He also had two tubes of sexual lubricant and a set of boards, wire, tape and bolts that could have used to tie up and torment the girls. . .

...

That is totally whack.:(

IvanIV
04 Oct 2006, 10:18 AM
An update on that shooter. . .

He had left some indications in his sucide notes that he blames God for the lost of his premature daughter 9 years ago and told his wife in a suicide note he had been dreaming about repeating his purported molestation of two younger female relatives 20 years ago -before killing himself.

There was no evidence of sexual assault, quoted ""it's very possible that ... he intended to victimise these children in many ways prior to killing them and killing himself". He also had two tubes of sexual lubricant and a set of boards, wire, tape and bolts that could have used to tie up and torment the girls. . .

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That is totally whack.:(

FOX News reported this morning that he(the shooter) had sexually abused some of his relatives...

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On a related note G.Gordon Liddy, convicted felon and radio antagonist, would have one believe that this could have all been avoided had we simply armed all the little Amish school girls...legislation is now in place...

Danners9
04 Oct 2006, 11:47 AM
On a related note G.Gordon Liddy, convicted felon and radio antagonist, would have one believe that this could have all been avoided had we simply armed all the little Amish school girls...legislation is now in place...

Seriously?

Antagonist is right, but mentalist is more accurate. What an idiot. Sounds a bit like Rodney Marsh on TalkSport radio just making up outrageous comments to create a show for himself.

IvanIV
04 Oct 2006, 02:00 PM
Seriously?

Antagonist is right, but mentalist is more accurate. What an idiot. Sounds a bit like Rodney Marsh on TalkSport radio just making up outrageous comments to create a show for himself.

There was a little hyperbole in there...but not much. I listen from time to time to see what rant he and his listeners are on. I knew they would be on about the shootings.

The gist of it was : "What a shame...I hope they don't try to take our guns away..."

AND THEN SOME GENIUS THREW THIS OUT: "The Amish understand. They use guns all the time!"

Sleep tight tonight America...we're in good hands...:confused: ?