Chelsea-In Europe

[brooklynredd]

when people talk about why Chelsea is so much better domestically
that in Europe. I think its the the referees that are the reason I would guess they get 8 out of 10 calls go there way.
A certain about of this is expected when Man U was dominant they
got 6 out of 10 calls same for AC Milan Real Madrid but with Chelsea its worse
I don't know why I hope its not any corruption enough match fixing scandals
allready.
I'm not an Aston Villa fan but right is right
how can refs say they missed Terry smacking goalkeeper if you are not
looking at goalkepper when the ball is coming in where are you watching
also sometime you can give a shoulder to kepper get away with it but when you stick out your arm like Terry did that is called at every level of football
from ten year old kids playing in the park.

[musicl]

Chelsea are just as good in Europe as prem!

[nicephoras]

when people talk about why Chelsea is so much better domestically
that in Europe. I think its the the referees that are the reason I would guess they get 8 out of 10 calls go there way.
A certain about of this is expected when Man U was dominant they
got 6 out of 10 calls same for AC Milan Real Madrid but with Chelsea its worse
I don't know why I hope its not any corruption enough match fixing scandals
allready.
I'm not an Aston Villa fan but right is right
how can refs say they missed Terry smacking goalkeeper if you are not
looking at goalkepper when the ball is coming in where are you watching
also sometime you can give a shoulder to kepper get away with it but when you stick out your arm like Terry did that is called at every level of football
from ten year old kids playing in the park.

You're a ManUtd fan, right?

[billyireland]

You're a ManUtd fan, right?
Liverpool.

Although it was a touch comical how Makalele stayed on the pitch against Villa (same for van Persie, mind you), on top of the goal decision.

[nicephoras]

Liverpool.

Although it was a touch comical how Makalele stayed on the pitch against Villa (same for van Persie, mind you), on top of the goal decision.

Sure. Very poor decision. You get some lucky bounces as the title winner, I agree.
I'm not sure what the problem is with the goal decision? Which goal decision?

[michaec]

Sure. Very poor decision. You get some lucky bounces as the title winner, I agree.
I'm not sure what the problem is with the goal decision? Which goal decision?
I guess he means Terry jumping into Sorenson before Drogba knocked the ball in. Personally, I think goalkeepers get far to much protection. If there's a foul fine, but players can't go anywhere near a keeper nowadays without the referee blowing for a foul. Obviously we don't want to see players charging keepers into the net again for a goal (OK, I'm sure some do!), but there must be a happy medium somewhere.

[Dr_Intoxicated]

I guess he means Terry jumping into Sorenson before Drogba knocked the ball in. Personally, I think goalkeepers get far to much protection. If there's a foul fine, but players can't go anywhere near a keeper nowadays without the referee blowing for a foul. Obviously we don't want to see players charging keepers into the net again for a goal (OK, I'm sure some do!), but there must be a happy medium somewhere.

I must admit I never thought about it when I was at the game, it was only when the SKY comentator seemed to make such a big deal of it when I watched in the evening that I paid more attention, I still did not think there had been any foul.

Chelsea goggles you might say, but latter the BBC comentators also never saw anything wrong with the goal.

[michaec]

I'm not saying it was a foul or not. My point was a general one about the protection that goalkeepers get. That one could be argued both ways depending on whether you want Chelsea to score or not, one of those that "even themselves out over a season" you might say.

[lost]

Dont know why the commentator said that the drogba goal was a foul, it was a clear goal. However, there is no way in any match thatr Makelele should have stayed on. im sorry, but if that had been for juve , my god, the furore, that would errupt. and then the penalty that gerrard should have had in the liverpool chelsea match, that was unbelievable, incomprehensible, but they also get ripped off in europe on an extremely regular basis, both red cards versus barca in each season, the ballack penalty at the bridge two years ago, the goal for garcia that never crossed the line, there is a definite uefa agenda against them imo.

[lanman]

Personally, I think goalkeepers get far to much protection. If there's a foul fine, but players can't go anywhere near a keeper nowadays without the referee blowing for a foul.

Totally agree. You often see keepers coming for a punch and either missing or hitting their own player yet still getting a free kick.

Going back a bit, but Cloughie had the same thoughts 20+ years ago.

Dutch Goalkeepers are protected to a ridiculous extent. The only time they are in danger of physical contact is when they go into the red light district

[brooklynredd]

its not this one game i am talking about and i dont think its so much against other big clubs like Man U Arsenal but against rest of Prem Chelsea gets way
to many calls they allready have great players dont need any help from refs

[nicephoras]

Dont know why the commentator said that the drogba goal was a foul, it was a clear goal. However, there is no way in any match thatr Makelele should have stayed on. im sorry, but if that had been for juve , my god, the furore, that would errupt. and then the penalty that gerrard should have had in the liverpool chelsea match, that was unbelievable, incomprehensible, but they also get ripped off in europe on an extremely regular basis, both red cards versus barca in each season, the ballack penalty at the bridge two years ago, the goal for garcia that never crossed the line, there is a definite uefa agenda against them imo.

That wasn't a penalty in the Liverpool game. And, of course, were we talking about "fairness" in that game, Sissoko should have clearly been sent off for his foul on Lampard (his second yellow) which would have meant Chelsea playing with an extra man, making all this rather moot.
I find it hard to muster much sympathy for Liverpool in that game. They're down at the half to a fabulous goal in a pretty even game and then have the entire second half against 10 men to score just once. They couldn't - its their own fault.

I do agree Chelsea get some calls a Blackburn or a Bolton would not, but that just comes with being champions. It was true of United and true of Arsenal. Nor do I think there's an agenda against Chelsea in Europe - just two very lousy calls in the Barcelona fixtures. However, we also got a bad penalty against Barca, even if it was the last kick of the game and the ref knew it made no difference. Its all such a matter of inches at the end of the day - if Terry doesn't head that ball into the back of our net toward the end of the second half, its not unreasonable we hang on for the win or even the draw. (We'd been looking quite good up to that point in the second half and the goal clearly shook us.) However, I do think Barcelona got quite lucky in a few games last season (Sheva's goal being disallowed for apparently breathing comes to mind), but you need to be both lucky and good to win. I can't recall any side winning the CL without at least one close scrape. For all the talk of Arsenal's great run last year, for instance, Raul had the chance to send that tie to penalties had he not contrived to somehow hit the bar in, I believe, the second leg. It happens.