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sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 02:46 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/england/2905237.stm


I thought the turks were confident in their own ability to win the game...
So why did they send a spy to film the training session?...I thought such a CONFIDENT team wouldnt need to resort to dirty tricks...
Lets hope that cheats dont prosper..

Manny
01 Apr 2003, 06:15 AM
Why is that such a dirty trick? Turkeys coach Senol Günes could have read all about how England trained in the sportssection of The Guardian today.

sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 06:33 AM
I somehow doubt that Gunes would just happen to pick up a copy of the guardian and read about the training session..
Reading about the session is one thing...But actually seeing a video is another thing.
A video would reveal any secret ideas that england had planned.. formation ,team selection ,set pieces,etc.....

Why do you think national teams train behind closed doors??? so the opposition cant see what they have planned...
Anyway..at least sven knows that the turks have been spying..maybe he can make afew changes.

Manny
01 Apr 2003, 07:06 AM
You have got a point sinner_ronald_monk, but I really doubt Sven is going to come up with some revolutionary new tactics for tomorrows game. He has pretty much stuck to the same players and tactics since he became Englands coach.

Do you think this could be another April 1st joke?

sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Manny


Do you think this could be another April 1st joke?

It had better be a joke.
but if it is a true story than lets hope Gunes didnt get much information from the video.

Mobile
01 Apr 2003, 09:22 AM
sinner makes a good point in that the confident Turks have been braggin non-stop about how they are going to beat us etc etc etc yet they still seem to find it necessary to spy on our training sessions. If they're that good then why bother?

Here are a couple of quotes from their in-no-way-arrogant players:

"We beat all the best teams at the World Cup and nearly beat Brazil. Turkey are the best team in Europe." - Alpay, non-playing Aston Villa defender.

"Aston Villa are part of an English conspiracy. They have not been playing me deliberately so I am out of form for the game against England. But we ar still too good for them." - that fella Alpay again.

"We are not scared of England or worried about them at all? Why should we be? We are the team who finished third in the World Cup and should have won. They should be scared of us." - Tugay, Blackburn defender.

OK, so they have a right to be confident as they are the in-form team.

But can you imagine if an England player came out with crap like that prior to an international? All the same tedious old 'arrogant' nonsense would be trotted out again quicker than you can say "Didn'tbeatanydecentteamsontheirwaytothesemifinal".

sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 09:57 AM
Yeah the turks have been doing alot of talking in the last few weeks..
alot of big talk.....

they reached the semi's with wins over china ,japan and senegal...
I reckon that any half decent outfit could reach the semi's playing those teams..

Turkoglu
01 Apr 2003, 11:58 AM
WOW what a shock. We have been spying on you. WOW the earth is going to end now. Just stop bragging about some ************************ and wait for the game.

sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Turkoglu
WOW what a shock. We have been spying on you. WOW the earth is going to end now. Just stop bragging about some ************************ and wait for the game.

Yeah lets stop bragging..
wouldnt wanna do any pre-match boasting and bragging..
who would do such a thing??
hahaha

Turkoglu
01 Apr 2003, 12:06 PM
You are not talking about the game at all my friend. Just look at your last post. All you are doing is for the purpose of putting down the Turkish soccer. Just try to be objective and and acnowledge the fact that Turkey's squad is in a better form than the English right now.

Braggin about a soccer game is one thing and talking crap about a team is another.

michael greene
01 Apr 2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk A video would reveal any secret ideas that england had planned.. formation ,team selection ,set pieces,etc.....

Raise your hand if you think England has any soccer ideas, secret or otherwise, worth stealing these days.

Mobile
01 Apr 2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Turkoglu
You are not talking about the game at all my friend. Just look at your last post. All you are doing is for the purpose of putting down the Turkish soccer. Just try to be objective and and acnowledge the fact that Turkey's squad is in a better form than the English right now.

Braggin about a soccer game is one thing and talking crap about a team is another.

Turkey are definitely in better form than England, I haven't seen anyone deny that. They are a very good side.

But their arrogance based on one good World Cup is absolutely staggering.

sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by michael greene
Raise your hand if you think England has any soccer ideas, secret or otherwise, worth stealing these days.

says the yank...
if anyone had stolen the ideas you clowns hatched we'd be playing 4 quarters ,wearing helmets,cheerleaders on the sidelines,goals the length of the pitch,,..etc...

ferrari77
01 Apr 2003, 01:56 PM
WTF is the turk talking about bragging
sinner_ronald_monk mentioned how THE TURKISH PLAYERS WERE BRAGGING, he wasnt saying oh ENgland are gonna thrash turkey or something like that, you've got to read the message first before talking. and frankly i like hearing the turks brag, i do not want to mention comparisons to a certain game in september 2001 in munich but maybe, all i know is we need to be at our best for a good turkish side.

Wildman262
01 Apr 2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk
Yeah the turks have been doing alot of talking in the last few weeks..
alot of big talk.....

they reached the semi's with wins over china ,japan and senegal...
I reckon that any half decent outfit could reach the semi's playing those teams..

Sinner, lest you forget, the lads struggled agains Macedonia, the Aussies and superpower Lichetenstein. This is no slight on England, but more of a defense on the Turks. They are a good team and beating the ******** and Senegal is no small feat. They are good teams.

sinner78
01 Apr 2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Wildman262
Sinner, lest you forget, the lads struggled agains Macedonia, the Aussies and superpower Lichetenstein. This is no slight on England, but more of a defense on the Turks. They are a good team and beating the ******** and Senegal is no small feat. They are good teams.

Your posting hiatus lasted less than 20 minutes...
Make it last longer next time...

BTW - on a non-footballing subject..
I hear rumours that you dont wash your hands after you take a dump?? is this correct??

Wildman262
01 Apr 2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk
Your posting hiatus lasted less than 20 minutes...
Make it last longer next time...

BTW - on a non-footballing subject..
I hear rumours that you dont wash your hands after you take a dump?? is this correct??

Sinner, water is too precious to be wasted washing your hands.

Wildman262
01 Apr 2003, 03:43 PM
Something tells me that Sas is going to turn a defender inside out. But, what do I know. I'm thinking maybe it could be Neville. I hope I am wrong.

Turkoglu
01 Apr 2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk
Your posting hiatus lasted less than 20 minutes...
Make it last longer next time...

BTW - on a non-footballing subject..
I hear rumours that you dont wash your hands after you take a dump?? is this correct??

You can not post any messages about attacking people huh?

Ferrari 77. This is what I was braggin about. Just read his post. Anyways I wish luck to the English fans and may the better team. It is definitely going to be a good game.

ferrari77
01 Apr 2003, 05:50 PM
my apologies Turkoglu, i for one know tomorrows match will be a hard fought battle and i have the utmost respect for the turks, ( my fav goal of all time being hakan unsals wicked shot against rangers in the C-league in 99 or 2000 i forget) and nihat and ilhan will be dangerous and s.h.i.t man, hasan sas, emre , yildiray and tugay,
it will be a great game but let me get back to the spying thing
eriksson was supposedly having the players play in a different formation than his beloved 442 and he should be ticked off at the spy games, theres no need for that from turkey.