How do you feel about other EPL teams in CL and UEFA?

[puravidamon]

Just curious if others fight the same internal struggle...

... do I want all these other scum to lose HORRIBLY because I don't want them advancing and earning more money and pride, or do I want them to stay in Europe for as long as possible (losing at the end) to drain the sides as much as possible for regular EPL matches?

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[OrlandoSPUR]

....in the CL I want to see the goons and Chavski fail miserably. But mainly the gooners, can't stand to see them do well.

In the UEFA, I want to see Palermo knock out the 'ammers....Tevez and Mascherano LOL. And I also want to see the Barcodes out as soon as possible.

Any other English club I want to see advance to the latter stages.....

[THFC1]

The only English club (other than Tottenham obviously) that i don't mind seeing do well in europe is Man Utd. I don't like seeing other English teams do well especially when we were not in europe.
I hated seeing Middlesbrough get to the UEFA Cup Final last season.

So the only British teams i would like to do well in europe are Tottenham, Man Utd and Celtic. The rest i want to see out ASAP.

[OrlandoSPUR]

...I don't like the United fans, although they do themselves proud when they go away from Old Trafford. But I like SAF, due to his kind words towards us, and also how his teams of the 90's played football, a joy to watch.

[DigitalTron]

I generally root for all the premiership teams in all other competitions. The stronger the league is the better IMHO. But I must admit, I did not root for Arsenal last Champions League final. I dunno, I wasn't feeling the camraderie that day .... musta been the bad lasagna I ate.

-Digital

[Colm]

I generally like to see English teams do well in europe (not so much Arsenal)

[puravidamon]

I generally like to see English teams do well in europe (not so much Arsenal)

primarily because of your own pride for the EPL and its continued glory? or is there also a bit of hopefully-a-good-run-will-wear-them-down mentality?

[Colm]

primarily because of your own pride for the EPL and its continued glory? or is there also a bit of hopefully-a-good-run-will-wear-them-down mentality?Primarily because of the pride of the premiership.

[Danners9]

I want Arsenal and Chelsea to fail, happy for Liverpool and Man utd to do well.

UEFA Cup, don't really care about the other sides.

[ox utd]

Always want Arsenal to lose, generally I want the other Premiership sides to do well (just out of pride for the league), except this season I also want (wish granted already) Wet Spam out immediately, and Newcastle immediately if not sooner. I like for Man utd. to do well, and Liverpool for that matter, hell I'll even pull for Chelsea over any spanish or italian sides. Uefa cup teams, other than the aforementioned two, go far and do well!

[Spur_Forever]

Obviously I can't stand the Scum and want them out of all competitions asap. But I don't really mind anyone else (even Chelsea) and wish them well - esp. Utd and Pool.

Although, I have to say that the Hammers losing put a smile on my face - but that's mainly due to all the big talk that came from their fans since they signed Tevez & co.

Oh, and I also hate Newcastle. Bunch of dirty, smelly, gibberish-talking northerners, all of them. Not that I'm generalizing at all :D But seriously, seeing them crash out of Europe would be a treat.

[DaeHaMinGuk]

I don't really believe in the the logic of cheering for rivals to do well in Europe.

The whole pride thing is just for argument's sake. The fact that your rivals get $ for winning as well as prestige to sign players makes it tough for me to want any EPL team but Spurs to do well.

Would you like it if West Ham someday went to the CL Final and make tons of cash, then used that cash to upgrade themselves? No.

I just don't think the pride thing is worth it. In the long run, your club (if it's not in Europe or doing well in Europe) gets hurt by other EPL teams success.

[Spur_Forever]

I don't really believe in the the logic of cheering for rivals to do well in Europe.

The whole pride thing is just for argument's sake. The fact that your rivals get $ for winning as well as prestige to sign players makes it tough for me to want any EPL team but Spurs to do well.

Would you like it if West Ham someday went to the CL Final and make tons of cash, then used that cash to upgrade themselves? No.

I just don't think the pride thing is worth it. In the long run, your club (if it's not in Europe or doing well in Europe) gets hurt by other EPL teams success.
You're right. I've changed my mind. I hate every team in Europe except Spurs.

[AllWhitebeliever]

Well I want the EPL teams to do well because that means EPL can claim bagging right of being the best soccer league. But rather than the Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Newcastle and Arsenal doing well, I have Spurs winning of course and the other lesser team going better than the main five to get a bit of cash.

So the main five can't really bid too much for players that we want 'cause we got the money and that the main five would be weaker because the other clubs may buy some of their players. Rather than ours.

Better for us in the premiership. And so we do better in premiership because of the cash injection and getting more suitable players than everyone else. And better upgrade of most things. More success for us the better purposeful cash we get. So I have degrees of favourites in Europe.

Of course, more European team coming our way, there's more quality catchs to get some players interested in our sweet set-up either by loan or transfer and increase football quality.

:cool:

Hang loose

[pookspur]

...In the long run, your club (if it's not in Europe or doing well in Europe) gets hurt by other EPL teams success.

on the other hand, the number of clubs from any given country that are eligible for european competitions is determined by that country's clubs' successes/failures. if english clubs were to stink it up in europe, it wouldn't be long before fewer EPL slots would qualify for the CL and UEFA cup.

that said, i have no problem with man u or liverpool success in europe, even if i don't actively pull for them. depends on the opposition, too. i thoroughly enjoyed, for example, united's dismantling of juventus back in '99. but i've a soft spot for benfica, and i liked them against united in their big group stage match last november. so it varies.

chelsea and the arse, however, could be playing Satan's XI, and i couldn't wish them well.

[DigitalTron]

I don't really believe in the the logic of cheering for rivals to do well in Europe.

The whole pride thing is just for argument's sake. The fact that your rivals get $ for winning as well as prestige to sign players makes it tough for me to want any EPL team but Spurs to do well.

Would you like it if West Ham someday went to the CL Final and make tons of cash, then used that cash to upgrade themselves? No.

I just don't think the pride thing is worth it. In the long run, your club (if it's not in Europe or doing well in Europe) gets hurt by other EPL teams success.

I disagree with this analysis. One thing you're not considering is that somebody WILL win the money. The difference is that if the teams winning that money are not in the Premier League, other leagues will be strengthened. One of the biggest draws for acquiring players Spurs have is being in the Premiership.

Look at the Bundesliga and Serie A. The recent rise of La Liga and the Premiership has been at the expense of the Bundesliga and Serie A. Now, very few people will go to a Bundesliga team over an English team unless the Bundesliga team is Bayern Munich. Similarly, Serie A's rise has come from pipping many Italian sides to talent.

As the league you play in is perceived as stronger, your ability to attract top international talent rises. Spurs can attract players like Davids, Berbatov and Zokora because of the strength of the Premiership. Spurs didn't build that strength via Spurs success in the Champions Leauge or the UEFA Cup competition. Spurs profited from the success of other Premiership Clubs' international success. Now, by doing well domestically, Spurs can leverage that to attract big players from around the world. That wouldn't be very likely without the successes of the Manchester Uniteds of the league.

Look at the Scottish Premier League, they have two good teams, Rangers and Celtic ... but the relatively low strength of the league makes it very difficult for them to attract top international players.

The better the Premiership teams do in international competitions, the more money investors are willing to spend on TV contracts for the league. Yes, your rivals will profit ... but so will you. When Bundesliga, Seria A and La Liga teams win everything, Spurs suffer more than if Premiership teams win things.

-Digital