Chivas VS America ?? help me

[fox of the desert]

hello,,

How many times met with Chivas and America in the history of the two clubs?

I write in the Arab Forum About el clasico , But am even some of the information ... Please help me

thank you

[DelChiverio]

hello,,

How many times met with Chivas and America in the history of the two clubs?

I write in the Arab Forum About el clasico , But am even some of the information ... Please help me

thank you

Salam! Welcome to the Chivas Forum! Are you a person of Mexican descent who lives in Bahrain or an Arab who likes the Mexican National Team and by extension Mexican Football? Chivas Rayadas del Guadalajara is the greatest and the most popular team in Mexico. Guadalajara only has Mexican players in their ranks. They are the only team in the Mexican League that has this tradition. I will provide you with information that will help you in answering, in part, your fascinating question. The reason for the above is I do not have a complete answer at the moment. I am researching to gather all of the results for the "Super Classic" (also called the "National Classic") of Mexican Football. I apologize for not answering your question completely.

Here are the results that I do have which are taken from a website named MedioTiempo.com:

Season Score
Clausura 2006 Chivas 1-0 América
Apertura 2005 América 0-0 Chivas
Clausura 2005 América 3-3 Chivas
Apertura 2004 Chivas 1-1 América
Clausura 2004 Chivas 0-1 América
Apertura 2003 América 1-2 Chivas
Clausura 2003 América 1-1 Chivas
Apertura 2002 Chivas 0-1 América
Verano 2002 América 2-3 Chivas
Invierno 2001 Chivas 1-1 América
Verano 2001 Chivas 1-2 América
Invierno 2000 América 0-3 Chivas
Verano 2000 Chivas 3-0 América
Invierno 1999 Quater-Finals América 1-0 Chivas
Invierno 1999 Quarter-Finals Chivas 0-0 América
Invierno 1999 América 2-0 Chivas
Verano 1999 América 0-1 Chivas
Invierno 1998 Chivas 1-0 América
Verano 1998 América 0-0 Chivas
Invierno 1997 Quarter-Finals América 1-0 Chivas
Invierno 1997 Quarter-Finals Chivas 1-3 América
Invierno 1997 Chivas 1-2 América
Verano 1997 América 0-0 Chivas
Invierno 1996 Chivas 5-0 América
Temporada 1995-1996 América 2-3 Chivas
Temporada 1995-1996 Chivas 0-2 América

Number of Matches Since the 1995-1996 Tournament: 26
Victories for Chivas: 9
Victories for America: 9
Draws: 8

Source: http://www.mediotiempo.com/partido.php?id_torneo=26&id_partido=7029&fuente=1

In 1996 the structure of the Mexican League changed. The era of two tournaments per season began. Another edition of the "Super Classic" Chivas vs America will be realized next week September 30th, at 5:00PM Pacific. Do you have access to Mexican soccer games on television?

I hope that this information will assist you in your research.

[DelChiverio]

Since 1943, when the Mexican Professional League was established, Guadalajara has faced America 142 times.

Chivas 48

America 46

Draws 48

[Brailovsky]

Chivas y América llevan 142 partidos en torneos de liga, con 48 triunfos para las Águilas y 46 del Guadalajara; el próximo fin de semana se esperan protagonicen un cerrado partido; América es tercero de la tabla y Guadalajara décimo, sin embargo siempre los partidos entre ambos se juegan al máximo.

http://www.esmas.com/deportes/futbol/569546.html

[DelChiverio]

Chivas y América llevan 142 partidos en torneos de liga, con 48 triunfos para las Águilas y 46 del Guadalajara; el próximo fin de semana se esperan protagonicen un cerrado partido; América es tercero de la tabla y Guadalajara décimo, sin embargo siempre los partidos entre ambos se juegan al máximo.

http://www.esmas.com/deportes/futbol/569546.html

I am not convinced that I have the numbers wrong. You have a Televisa source and I have a source from a Chiva hermano. If you find a neutral source let me know, I am willing to change my position by solid evidence.

http://www.soydechivas.com.mx/htm/hijos/wilas/chivasvswilas.htm

[fox of the desert]

DelChiverio

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i am bahraini
but I likes Mexican National Team And Mexican soccer in general

Thank you

I benefited from your information
You can watch the subject, which I wrote :

http://forum.kooora.com/f.aspx?t=2507344

[Brailovsky]

America and Chivas had played a total of 191(league, Libertadores, etc)

America 69
Chivas 59

[Disco Dale]

Guadalajara only has Mexican players in their ranks. They are the only team in the Mexican League that has this tradition.
I think there is something like 6 clubs in the entire world which have a policy of only employing nationals of their respective countries (or even regions, in some cases)

[DelChiverio]

i am bahraini
but I likes Mexican National Team And Mexican soccer in general

Thank you

I benefited from your information
You can watch the subject, which I wrote :

http://forum.kooora.com/f.aspx?t=2507344

When did you start watching the Mexican National Team and Mexican soccer? Did you watch any of the Copa Libertadores (South American tournament for clubs) games? If so, did you see Chivas del Guadalajara play?

I clicked on the link you provided and was fascinated to see so much information about soccer. I noticed that you are very informed about soccer matches and tournaments. Of course, I do not speak Arabic so I was not able to understand the words but, I was able to discern the tournament logos and the occasional English word. I enjoyed very much your presentation of the "Super Classic" of Mexican Football. Very informative. You have the logo of the Mexican Federation in the backround, pics of the teams, and you even have a aerial picture of Jalisco Stadium and a brief history! Great work! Outstanding report! I congratulate you. Hope to talk to you soon.

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I think there is something like 6 clubs in the entire world which have a policy of only employing nationals of their respective countries (or even regions, in some cases)

In addition to Chivas, Club Saprissa (Costa Rica) and Club Nacional (Ecuador) have this policy of having national players only. Athletic de Bilbao has only players from the Basque, Navarre, and Iparralde regions of Spain. I have not researched or come across any other club that does this.

[Perndog2006]

DelChiverio

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i am bahraini
but I likes Mexican National Team And Mexican soccer in general

Thank you

I benefited from your information
You can watch the subject, which I wrote :

http://forum.kooora.com/f.aspx?t=2507344


wow what does it say?

nice effort by the way..

I never thought I ever see this
http://mediotiempo.com/images/partidos/6203_7g.jpg

[fox of the desert]

When did you start watching the Mexican National Team and Mexican soccer? Did you watch any of the Copa Libertadores (South American tournament for clubs) games? If so, did you see Chivas del Guadalajara play?

I clicked on the link you provided and was fascinated to see so much information about soccer. I noticed that you are very informed about soccer matches and tournaments. Of course, I do not speak Arabic so I was not able to understand the words but, I was able to discern the tournament logos and the occasional English word. I enjoyed very much your presentation of the "Super Classic" of Mexican Football. Very informative. You have the logo of the Mexican Federation in the backround, pics of the teams, and you even have a aerial picture of Jalisco Stadium and a brief history! Great work! Outstanding report! I congratulate you. Hope to talk to you soon.

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I started to follow the Mexican national team since 1997 almost .
But the problem is that the Mexican league is not subjected to any television channel hit us.

But I saw Copa Libertadores in the last two years
, In which it played Chivas well, and I do not forget the famous match with Boca Juniors .
Only sheer luck and the participation of the Chivas players with the Mexican team was the reason for non-qualified team to the final .


thank u

[DelChiverio]

wow what does it say?

nice effort by the way..

I never thought I ever see this
http://mediotiempo.com/images/partidos/6203_7g.jpg

I concur, it is a wonderful report of the Clasico in Arabic.

HA! Ha! Ha! The guys in the picture are probably brothers, cousins, or friends. In a sense it is a witty picture.

[DelChiverio]

I started to follow the Mexican national team since 1997 almost .
But the problem is that the Mexican league is not subjected to any television channel hit us.

But I saw Copa Libertadores in the last two years
, In which it played Chivas well, and I do not forget the famous match with Boca Juniors .
Only sheer luck and the participation of the Chivas players with the Mexican team was the reason for non-qualified team to the final .


thank u

Wow! You have been following Mexico for almost ten years now. I am very glad that our beloved country is creating fans in other parts of the world. I am happy that you identify yourself with our National Team.

I am sorry that the Mexican League has no exposure in your country. I hope that this will change soon so that you will be able to rejoice in seeing Chivas and other Mexican clubs every week.

You created a big smile on my face when you mentioned that memorable game against Boca Juniors. What a beautiful game! 4-0 was the score as you remember. Two great long distance goals by Alfaro and Adolfo "Bofo" Bautista. That game was a feast of good football.

I absolutely agree that our team Guadalajara was affected by the many players that the National Team took to the Confederations Cup. Did you watch the Confederations Cup?

Do you consider yourself a fan of Chivas Rayadas del Guadalajara?

Thanks again.

[fox of the desert]

Did you watch the Confederations Cup?

Do you consider yourself a fan of Chivas Rayadas del Guadalajara?

Thanks again.

the first Mexican team I knew was America so I liked them especially that Blanco and Luis Hernandez were players in this team.
But I like Chivas more beacause they depend on pure mexican players many of which play in the national team.

As for the Confederations cup I watched it and I liked the strong performance of the National team. If they played in worldcup 2006 withh the same performance it wouldn't have been a surprize if they won the cup.

the Confederation cup 1999 was so great especially we won the finals :)

By the way I am 20 years old so I've been a Mexico fan since I was 10 years old :cool:

[LMvCP]

This is only official matches. Official matches constitute League (regular season and playoff), Cup (Copa Mexico), Super Cup (Campeon de Campeones), Copa Libertadores.

DOMESTIC COMPETITION

Liga - 126

America - 34 W 46 D 46 L
Chivas - 46 W 46 D 34 L

Liguilla - 16

America - 11 W 3 D 2 L
Chivas - 2 W 3 D 11 L

http://www.oem.com.mx/esto/notas/n23837.htm

Copa Mexico - 8

America - 3 W 5 D 0 L
Chivas - 0 W 5 D 2 L

Campeon de Campeones - 2

America - 0 W 0 D 2 L
Chivas - 2 W 0 D 0 L

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Total - 152

America - 48 W 54 D 50 L
Chivas - 50 W 54 D 48 L

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INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION

Campeon de Campeones de CONCACAF - 2

America - 1 W 1 D 0 L
Chivas - 0 W 1 D 1 W

Pre Libertadores - 2

America - 2 W 0 D 0 L
Chivas - 0 W 0 D 0 2 L

Copa Libertadores - 2

America - 2 W 0 D 0 L
Chivas - 0 W 0 D 2 L

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Total - 6

America - 5 W 1 D 0 L
Chivas - 0 W 1 D 5 L

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TOTAL - 158

America - 53 W 55 D 50 L
Chivas - 50 W 55 D 53 L

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As far as friendlies and other invitational type cups, they have disputed 20 with America having a slight edge 8W 5D 7L

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Statistically speaking, it is pretty much even, however since th 1970s (and really the 60s) America has taken over and one thing they have is that they have a huge advantage over their rivals in key knockout type games. America won 2 Cup titles in the 50s beating Chivas. The playoff in Mexico is one sided with America winning every series with the exception of one (1982/83). The Copa Libertadores matches (both preliminary or not) is also one sided. The Concacaf matches are also one sided. Also, in the only league final that they have ever disputed, America won with 10 men on the field

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America and Chivas have faced each other in 5 championship series, meaning winner takes the crown.

53/54 - America (Cup)
54/55 - America (Cup)
64 - Chivas (Super Cup)
65 - Chivas (Super Cup)
83/84 - America (League)

[DelChiverio]

LMvCP: Thank you for providing the stats. Lamentably, the press waited to the day of the Clasico to provide these historical and important numbers. I would of liked to have them a week ago.

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the first Mexican team I knew was America so I liked them especially that Blanco and Luis Hernandez were players in this team.
But I like Chivas more beacause they depend on pure mexican players many of which play in the national team.

As for the Confederations cup I watched it and I liked the strong performance of the National team. If they played in worldcup 2006 withh the same performance it wouldn't have been a surprize if they won the cup.

the Confederation cup 1999 was so great especially we won the finals

By the way I am 20 years old so I've been a Mexico fan since I was 10 years old

Luis Hernandez is now retired and Blanco still plays for America. Because of an injury and La Volpe not liking him (this was the chief reason) he was not selected to the National Team in the past World Cup.

The fact that Chivas has only Mexican players in its ranks was also one of the reasons that first attracted me to the club.

Mexico gained great respect in the soccer world after the Confederations Cup of 2005. Many people liked the good football exhibited by the Aztecs. Many European clubs began to take tabs of Mexican players for future job offers. If creative players such as Adolfo "Bofo" Bautista, Jimmy Lozano, and Blanco been selected, Mexico would of had a better performance in the World Cup. Another benefit would of been if we had a coach other than La Volpe.

I am very glad that you watched Mexico lift the title in 1999. I am joyful that you find inspiration in Mexican soccer. Welcome to the forum and hope talk to you soon.

[AMEPUNKANIST]

أمريكا is going to beat شيفاز

[Lyrical S.]

America and Chivas have faced each other in 5 championship series, meaning winner takes the crown.

53/54 - America (Cup)
54/55 - America (Cup)
64 - Chivas (Super Cup)
65 - Chivas (Super Cup)
83/84 - America (League)
let me correct you just a li bit Liguilla play started in 1970! so america has a braggin right over that chivas hasnt beaten america when it really counts as the res of your stats show!:):D

[Lyrical S.]

the first Mexican team I knew was America so I liked them especially that Blanco and Luis Hernandez were players in this team.
But I like Chivas more beacause they depend on pure mexican players many of which play in the national team.

As for the Confederations cup I watched it and I liked the strong performance of the National team. If they played in worldcup 2006 withh the same performance it wouldn't have been a surprize if they won the cup.

the Confederation cup 1999 was so great especially we won the finals :)

By the way I am 20 years old so I've been a Mexico fan since I was 10 years old :cool:
i respect chivas for playing with pure mexicans but wat i cannot respect is they call themselves "la leyenda mexicana"...mexican legend" .......when there founders are foreigners!!

[Pirru]

i respect chivas for playing with pure mexicans but wat i cannot respect is they call themselves "la leyenda mexicana"...mexican legend" .......when there founders are foreigners!!

it doesn't have to do anything with the founders. leyenda mexicana, because of only mexican players on the team... who won championships, and of course you respect us were your daddy...:cool: