Smolarek's New Chance

[Gunning4Chelsea]

Doesn't mean it will translate to the Bundesliga.

I trust BvM to play Tyrala when BvM feels he's ready to help AT THE BUNDESLIGA LEVEL.......

can't u just take an opnion with a grain of salt?....no kidding that Tyrala may not be ready for Bundesliga just yet - he may turn out to be a total flop - but how else will you see if he is ready if you test him?....certainly, by playing him at least a few minutes in a route (win or loss) - will enable the youngster to get some sort of experience and see if he can handle first team football...it is crystal clear that Tyrala is a class above his peers in U-19 - I am not asking bvm to give him 90 min against the likes of bayern or hsv

stop being so argumentative dude....chill - lay off the typing 'roids

[footyfan1]

Don't any of you people see BVM as the problem?


I don't. I think of where this club was heading before he arrived and the wonders he's done with our young talent. Young talent that was dismissed as "not good enough" under Sammer because Sammer was too f#cking stupid to develop them.

BvM gives this team every chance to win. You see it in their organization and tactics.

When Sammer was around, he was definitely a big part of the problem. The team was rarely prepared for different challenges and played with the same scheme, week in and week out no matter who the opponent was.

BvM is smart enough to adjust to opponents. Sammer had the same old game plan no matter what and players got frustrated with him.

In the end, the players are the ones not getting the job done and they realize it.

So again no, I don't think BvM is the problem with our team. I think the team's problems are a lack of attitude ("Champions' Mentality) and it is missing "killer instinct."

Those have been problems since Herr Hitzfeld departed.

I think the team needs a player with an "Sammer-like" attitude to be BvM's arm on the pitch. Much like Sammer was for Hitzfeld.

Someone to kick the team in the ass when they start playing down to their opponents as they always seem to do.

Even though he doesn't speak the language yet, I'm starting to hope Tinga will be that guy.

Management seems to be very happy with BvM's work and he's also VERY POPULAR with the fans. I'm actually surprised that a Dutchman is so popular with the fans, but I think the fans see the difference in the team and the superb work he's doing with the youngsters. I think he's working on the mentality.

BvM seems to be here to stay.

[footyfan1]

can't u just take an opnion with a grain of salt?....no kidding that Tyrala may not be ready for Bundesliga just yet - he may turn out to be a total flop - but how else will you see if he is ready if you test him?....certainly, by playing him at least a few minutes in a route (win or loss) - will enable the youngster to get some sort of experience and see if he can handle first team football...it is crystal clear that Tyrala is a class above his peers in U-19 - I am not asking bvm to give him 90 min against the likes of bayern or hsv

stop being so argumentative dude....chill - lay off the typing 'roids


Again, I trust BvM to know when to play him. Like you, I think it will be soon.

[marek]

Borussia Dortmund 2 - 2 Hannover 96

5' E Smolarek 1-0
74' V Hashemian 1-1
76' E Smolarek 2-1
77' S Huszti 2-2

is this good enough?

[Coon]

we f u c k i n g suck! im glad all those ********ers got booed.

good work by ebi tho.

[Coon]

we f u c k i n g suck! im glad all those ********ers got booed.

good work by ebi tho.


tinga was another player who played with heart and played well

[Arlo]

well, to me looks like we ALMOST got everything what it takes to wins games, but we dont. i just don't know what or whom to blame

[Coon]

honestly to me we look like a VERY AVERAGE team who will occasionaly upset a top team but will almost always struggle with worse teams.

WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO MIDFIELD!! Every ball goes directly from the back to the forwards. its absolutely rediculous and its about time BVM does something about it. And if he is not able to get this team going by winter break, we should strongly consider a replacement next year.

[HeyaBVB]

I totally agree!
You surely don't have a clue what you are talking about ....

BvM is the ********ing best thing that could ever happen to BVB ...

[Coon]

You surely don't have a clue what you are talking about ....

BvM is the ********ing best thing that could ever happen to BVB ...


No, Hitzfeld taking over tomorrow would be the best thing that could ever happen to BVB!!!

[footyfan1]

No, Hitzfeld taking over tomorrow would be the best thing that could ever happen to BVB!!!


No, it isn't. The team allowed themselves to become frustrated when things didn't come easy for them on Friday night.

Once the team matures, this will not be a problem. The team's problem is mental. It is not BvM's fault. BvM gives this team every opportunity to win. THE TEAM just isn't utilizing those opportunities.

I'm tired of seeing the bullshit about BvM. You guys blaming him just don't have a freakin' clue as to what's going on here.

The Ebi of the first half of last season was back. We saw it against Gladbach too. We need him right now. Let's hope he STAYS "that Ebi".

I wouldn't be surprised to see him paired with Valdez soon. Frei has just been total shit the past two matches.

[footyfan1]

well, to me looks like we ALMOST got everything what it takes to wins games, but we dont. i just don't know what or whom to blame


We're missing a strong, competent leader on the pitch to gather the team and keep their heads up when frustration creeps in.

I truly believe that if there were timeouts in football, we would have won on Friday. You could see BvM trying to keep the team's head in the game, but they didn't respond.

If you must assess blame then blame the team as a whole. They are just too immature and get easily frustrated when things don't come to them easily.

Honestly, that's management's fault too. The team is just too young and has no strong leader. To me, that's management's fault.

Good leaders are hard to find. But one was out there this past off-season. Sergej Barbarez. I would have gotten him even if it meant not getting Frei or Valdez.

Just for his leadership. I can't even say I know he would have been the right guy, but any type of leadership is better than none at all.

And I believe that's our biggest problem right now. What's more is that the team themselves know it, but never do anything about it.

BvM can only give them the plan, the team has to execute. And right now, they just aren't executing for 90 minutes.

[footyfan1]

Borussia Dortmund 2 - 2 Hannover 96

5' E Smolarek 1-0
74' V Hashemian 1-1
76' E Smolarek 2-1
77' S Huszti 2-2

is this good enough?


Yes. Even after almost a full season of absolutely nothing. Let's hope he keeps it up.

I knew guys would be stepping up loudly as soon as he had one good match. Like I said, let's hope he keeps it up.....

I hope BvM benches Frei for him next match.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

I agree with footyfan, all this smack talk against BvM is unfounded, I can find many a club in Germany (*cough* Hertha *cough*) that could use a quality coach like him. Like footyfan said, other than Christian Woerns, there seems to be no head leader on the team. Maybe when Kehl comes back the team will play better.

[Coon]

How can you not fault BvM to a certain degree? He has absolutely left no imprint on the way the team plays. Why has he not stressed to the team how important ball possession is? The team always goes directly from the back to the front, rarely does the midfield help build up a play. How can you keep kicking the ball up when you have three midgets up top? You expect pirenaar to win balls in the air? Keep the ball on the f#cking ground. i was watching the game with a neutral fan and he also notice how midfield was invisible and how stupid our team plays.

[footyfan1]

How can you not fault BvM to a certain degree?

Because someone who sees them every week can easily see that the team is prepared and has a game plan.


He has absolutely left no imprint on the way the team plays.

That's complete BS. This team has new players in the most important offensive positions on the field and it's showing.



Why has he not stressed to the team how important ball possession is?

What makes you think he hasn't??!! THE TEAM isn't executing! And the team usually does have BETTER BALL POSSESSION stats than their opponents. They just aren't doing shit with it!

Sure, they finished behind Hannover 51% to 49%, but they lost the advantage in ball possession in the final 10-15 minutes of the match.




The team always goes directly from the back to the front, rarely does the midfield help build up a play. How can you keep kicking the ball up when you have three midgets up top? You expect pirenaar to win balls in the air? Keep the ball on the f#cking ground. i was watching the game with a neutral fan and he also notice how midfield was invisible and how stupid our team plays.

Watch our opponents. They do what they can to shut down the middle. What the f#ck is Pienaar supposed to do, dribble through entire defenses??

One of the other problems with your theory is that after Pienaar and Tinga, our best ball handler is Degen.

Where does he play?? How would he help the offense?

I hate it when you guys talk about this shit like it's easy. There's nothing wrong with the BVB game plan. What's wrong is that the team doesn't f#cking execute it for 90 minutes.

The first few minutes of that Hannover match was BvM's offense being run the way it is supposed to f#cking be run.

After the team started to get frustrated at not being able to get that second goal, THEY fell back into the same damned routine! Did you not see BvM on the touchline trying to keep them in the game??

The players let their own frustration beat them on Friday night and it cost us two points.

If you see what's going on during matches and off the pitch, to blame BvM is f#cking silly. He's the best thing this club has had since that Trader Bastard Hitzfeld went to BayScum.

That's another thing.

Get over Ottmar Hitzfeld. He isn't coming back. We've got the right man. We've also just got a team made up of spectacular COWARDS who instead of standing up to hard-working, FIGHTING teams and slapping them back down, they just sit there, try to take those teams' best shots and usually wind up f#cking up because of it!

BvM said it in the press last week. "The team is still too nice!"

He's working on that! But you can't make warriors out of cowards when the guys are cowardly by nature. Hell, if you could, Sammer was the perfect guy for that! And that was his problem! He tried that and team quit on him not just because of that but it seems they knew Sammer was tactical moron and couldn't teach his way out of a wet paper bag!

BvM is going to leave this club stronger for years to come, but he can't make warriors out of cowards! Nobody can!

We need a strong a$$hole on the pitch to run this team. Weidenfeller can't do it from the goal and Tinga doesn't speak the language. Other than that, this team has ZERO true leaders!!!

The only team our band of gutless wonders ever stood up to this season was HSV and we only won that because some HSV players quit before our guys did. Stuttgart was pure luck.

I do blame BvM for two things on Friday night. That he didn't try Lars Ricken for Pienaar. And in a way, I understand why he didn't. Pienaar came as close to scoring in that match as he ever has. BvM probably wanted to see if Pienaar could get one. However, I still think we should have seen Ricken for about the final 15 or 20 minutes of that match.

The other thing is that he didn't seem to get on the team about pacing themselves. Woerns commented that in the final part of the match, guys weren't going into one-on-one battles as much as they could have because they were physically drained.

I take that to mean that they aren't used to having to give an all-out effort for most of a match. That's something BvM has never been able to fix. This team likes to "cruise" during matches too f#cking much.

You guys can keep screaming about BvM all you like. Until the man resigns or management becomes unhappy with his work (And they still LOVE him right now) the man is staying. Management and the fans are happy with this guy. We know that it's the TEAM who isn't executing. They play like a bunch of gutless wonders and when things don't come easy for them, they get frustrated like little children.

Basically because many of them ARE LITTLE CHILDREN!!

They have to mature. I said well before the season started that I thought our team was TOO YOUNG! And this is a problem when you have a team that's TOO YOUNG!

And this isn't BvM's fault, this is MANAGEMENT'S FAULT!! Instead of going out and getting this team the veteran leadership it needed (Like FCN did in getting former Czech captain Galasek!), they just made the team younger and younger!

The expectation of a top five finish is too much for these guys. Not until they mature and find some courage within themselves. Whenever Kehl comes back, that will help. Hell, I'm even starting to think that the strike partnership should be Valdez and Smolarek.

And there's one other thing I think is obvious about this team.

It misses David Odonkor..........

Right now, that's starting to look like one stupid f#cking deal. :mad:

[footyfan1]

I agree with footyfan, all this smack talk against BvM is unfounded, I can find many a club in Germany (*cough* Hertha *cough*) that could use a quality coach like him.


If he wants to work, this guy will always have a job. There aren't many guys out there better at building a team from the ground up.



Like footyfan said, other than Christian Woerns, there seems to be no head leader on the team.

When did I ever say "other than Christian Woerns?" Woerns is no leader. He's captain, but I think that's only because he's the veteran on the team. We haven't had a true leader as captain since Matthias Sammer.



Maybe when Kehl comes back the team will play better.

That SHOULD help. But we've still had leadership problems even with him in the lineup........ :o

[footyfan1]

Just started a new thread. "BvM: How much is he to blame?"

Have at it all you BvM detractors! ;)

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Smolarek has scored twice for Poland so far. 2:0 for them against Portugal in a must win game.

[karny9]

Smolarek scored the only goal in a 1-0 win against Kazakhstan, and had 2 today in a 2-1 win over Portugal.

He is on fire