Why not 40 nations in the World Cup 06?

[Frank Cunha]

Concacaf, Oceania, Asia, Africa, all want a spot for the World Cup 06. Should Europe lose four spots, I don't think so.
10 Groups with 4 teams in each group
the top ten winners, plus the 6 best second place finishers, qualify to the round of 16.

The problem its easy to solve.
Waiting for the fans reaction.

[chaski]

If there are 40, then too many crap teams like Portugal will be there.

[soccerfan220]

no offense, but if they didn't, they wouldn't for a long time. It's such a drastic change. And they aren't giving everyone another spot-only one region. I think it should concacaf or conmebol. That would also make it a lot harder, because you'd need more than second to reach the next round. It used to be more than 3rd..

[Frank Cunha]

My idea call for
14 European countries
6 Asia
6 Concacaf
6 Africa
5 South America
1 Oceania
1 for the host
1 WC champion

[Frank Cunha]

Chaski my purpose don't call for adding any more European teams. It call's for adding more nations to Concacaf, Asia, Africa, and Oceania.

[Frank Cunha]

Europe was not there for the President of FIFA Blatter, he got elected with the help of other continents. He got to give something back.

[galperin]

40 is just way to much. it would certainly lessen the prestigue (sp?) of getting to the final.

[Frank Cunha]

40 still less then a quarter of all the nations in the World.

[Frank Cunha]

Chaski and you taught my idea was all about Portugal getting in, you were wrong, if Portugal is not good enough he should not be there, I will be the first to be against theme.
I could care less if its only 10 Europeans, I just don't think the President of the European nations is going to give in.

[Elninho]

Two words:
FIXTURE CONGESTION.

Any questions?

[Carson Galaxy]

6 for CONCACAF is too much. We already compete with 6 teams in the final round to determine which three make it to the WC Finals.

The first round would be watered down. There would likely be no more Groups of Death, maybe a Group of Ease instead.

[Frank Cunha]

Concacaf we compete with 6.
Concacaf 32 nations compete, six reach the final round. We had countries in Concacaf didn't made the top six, Guatemela lost the tie braker with Costa Rica, Haiti is coming along they had a good show in the GoldCup, Canada, San Salvador etc. and I could go on with more.

If Guatemela wins the tie braker, Costa Rica miss's the final round.

[chaski]

Originally posted by Frank Cunha
if Portugal is not good enough he should not be there, I will be the first to be against theme.
They got into WC2002, didn't they? UEFA qualifying is a joke.

[GoHawks4]

I know my opinion here may not be the popular one, but maybe Europe could use 1 or 2 more spots.

[Frank Cunha]

Portugal got robbed, Spain got robbed, USA got robbed, Italy got robbed.
Portugal's second yellow on Beto never existed, Italy red card, Spain's two goals, USA got rob against Germany it was a goal, penalty after goal is a goal.
Germany player should got a red card.
these World Cup in my opinion was a total joke.
but that's talk for a different day.

Portugal with nine players against 11 Koreans show they can play with anybody. But I don't leave on excuses.

[EQuakes No1]

Originally posted by Frank Cunha
It call's for adding more nations to Asia.

I hope no offense is taken for me satying this, but Asia has only 2 good and i mean, GOOD, soccer teams. Japan, and Korea. Why add more crap teams?

[EQuakes No1]

Originally posted by EQuakes No1


I hope no offense is taken for me saying this, but Asia has only 2 good and i mean, GOOD, soccer teams. Japan, and Korea. Why add more crap teams?

[blech]

i join in the belief that it would be real tough to tell teams that finish second in their group that they don't advance. get drawn into a group with a "super power" and then you really have your work cut out for you.

as a result, if the number is going to be expanded, i'd prefer to see something like (i) a mini-playoff between some number of teams for the final spots (perhaps invite 36 teams and have the last 8 play each other in a sudden death game at the beginning to reduce the number to 32) or (ii) go beyond the round of 16 (using your example of 40, 20 teams would advance, and then the bottom 8 would playoff to reduce the total to 16).

either way, it seems kind of harsh (especially the first option which has teams traveling to the WC for a single game before packing up and heading home).

all this said, it's hard to get to excited about expanding the number. the tournament was fantastic, but i don't really think you'd want to make it longer which is often what happens when you add teams.

i also don't think we can justify 6 teams in concacaf or in asia. maybe concacaf goes to 4 based on performance, but that's it (and i kind of like the idea of concacaf going to 3.5 with their playoff being with s.america to start bringing these regions more together).

asia is asking for more, but probably about to be decreased to 3 or maybe 3.5 and have them in the playoff with oceania (who gets .5 or 1 depending on whether there is a playoff). and, don't forget, asia probably got extra slots this time b/c of the auto births for s.korea and japan which would have otherwise made qualification ridiculous.

africa didn't play well enough to get more than the 5 they had this past time. south america probably should get 5 and not have to bother with the playoff for the last spot like this time (although, as noted above, i like the regional playoff with concacaf for the last spot).

which only leaves europe. at the end of the day, i think the best teams should get in, regardless of region. if you think of the teams that got shutout of WC02 from europe, i'd be handing them extra slots before anyone else.

so, i say, don't change anything of substance. take away a full slot from asia. give europe the full slot, rather than a playoff. have 4th from asia play the oceania winner (or just let australia in). have 4th from concacaf play 5th from south america.

[rapscallion]

only spain got robbed.

Originally posted by Frank Cunha
Portugal got robbed, Spain got robbed, USA got robbed, Italy got robbed.
Portugal's second yellow on Beto never existed, Italy red card, Spain's two goals, USA got rob against Germany it was a goal, penalty after goal is a goal.
Germany player should got a red card.
these World Cup in my opinion was a total joke.
but that's talk for a different day.

Portugal with nine players against 11 Koreans show they can play with anybody. But I don't leave on excuses.

[rapscallion]

Originally posted by EQuakes No1


I hope no offense is taken for me satying this, but Asia has only 2 good and i mean, GOOD, soccer teams. Japan, and Korea. Why add more crap teams?

iran's not bad.