Rumour? What new stadium is Spurs getting?

[PoshSpur]

But would they keep the cinema? ;)

....no sure?

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Got a question, but what is wrong with WHL? Is it just a modernisation or a add-on? I think that WHL is big enough IMHO, or just need a couple of thousand extra seats

[Colm]

Got a question, but what is wrong with WHL? Is it just a modernisation or a add-on? I think that WHL is big enough IMHO, or just need a couple of thousand extra seatsWHL is great, it's enclosed and produces a great atmosphere with a carpet type pitch, it's just it's a bit two small, it needs to be over 40,000 but transport links are blocking us from expanding it.

[Colm]

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/stadium/stadium_development.html

From our clubs website.

[soccernutter]

"...but we do need central funding..."
:confused:
Um, I thought we had very good backers, and therefor getting funding for the stadium/project would not be an issue.

[mis-e-one]

Got a question, but what is wrong with WHL? Is it just a modernisation or a add-on? I think that WHL is big enough IMHO, or just need a couple of thousand extra seats

36,000 is too small.

Especially when Man U have a 76,000 ground, Arsenal have built a new ground, Liverpool want to build a new ground, etc.

It's time that Spurs were a force again, and 36,000 is too small to sustain that.

[PoshSpur]

"...but we do need central funding..."
:confused:
Um, I thought we had very good backers, and therefor getting funding for the stadium/project would not be an issue.


....Joe Lewis isn't using Tottenham Hotspur PLC as a Hotpoint/Zanussi, just as Abramovich is doing at Chelski.

Our club is an investment that Mr. Lewis is currently dabbling in. We all wish he inputted a bit more cash, but it's just the way things are.

[soccernutter]

....Joe Lewis isn't using Tottenham Hotspur PLC as a Hotpoint/Zanussi, just as Abramovich is doing at Chelski.

Our club is an investment that Mr. Lewis is currently dabbling in. We all wish he inputted a bit more cash, but it's just the way things are.

Oh, I'm not saying personal cash, such as chelski or portsmouth are getting. The tone of the comment made it sound like he was having difficulty getting the financing, and I thought that a bit strange knowning Spurs and their backers.

[sendorange]

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7278/standard2va7.jpg

Slightly better article in the Standard. About the club's appointment of Sir Keith Mills, deals a bit with the stadium and also our need for more international fans.

[DigitalTron]

Nice, thanks for the image link Send. Hopefully getting this guy onboard means we're serious about having a big stadium and growing the brand. As for the international fans ... well I'm doing my best! :D

-Digital

[Colm]

Getting a bigger stadium and more fans will certainly help :D

[The Old Lady Hertha]

I dunno, I reckon Spurs should get a stadium of around 45000 (I feel the same way with Everton). I have a feeling that both of our clubs would have difficulty having at least 90% attendances consistently in our stadiums if we got a stadium of the size of Arsenal's or Liverpool's. Even 55000 would be stretching it.

But if you guys do get a stadium, I hope its not like a bowl, like City of Manchester or the new Emirates (which actually doesn't do that bad [don't kill the Everton fan :D ]), but a stadium that is very similar to Goodison or WHL, except modernised. Sorta like a mini-Westfalenstadion, that should be the goals of our clubs if we get new stadiums.

Good luck btw.

[sendorange]

I dunno, I reckon Spurs should get a stadium of around 45000 (I feel the same way with Everton). I have a feeling that both of our clubs would have difficulty having at least 90% attendances consistently in our stadiums if we got a stadium of the size of Arsenal's or Liverpool's. Even 55000 would be stretching it.

We have more fans than Everton, with all due respect to them, and the ticket demand even at our currently very high ticket prices justifies an increase to 55,000 comfortably.

[Colm]

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/tottenham/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/01/29/SOCCER_Tottenham_AGM.html&TEAMHD=spurs&DIV=prem&TEAM=TOTTENHAM--HOTSPUR&RH=Tottenham--Hotspur&PREV_SEASON=

from sporting life.

[mis-e-one]

I dunno, I reckon Spurs should get a stadium of around 45000 (I feel the same way with Everton). I have a feeling that both of our clubs would have difficulty having at least 90% attendances consistently in our stadiums if we got a stadium of the size of Arsenal's or Liverpool's. Even 55000 would be stretching it.

But if you guys do get a stadium, I hope its not like a bowl, like City of Manchester or the new Emirates (which actually doesn't do that bad [don't kill the Everton fan :D ]), but a stadium that is very similar to Goodison or WHL, except modernised. Sorta like a mini-Westfalenstadion, that should be the goals of our clubs if we get new stadiums.

Good luck btw.

Nonsense. Our fan base is equal to Arsenal's traditionally. There isn't that much difference in historic average attendances between the two. Arsenal would have got more gloryhunters because of the success of the Wenger era, hence making their support look inflated over ours.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

That was what I was referring to in actually, the new fair weather fans. I dunno. Maybe you can do it, its just my 2 cents from a non-Spurs fan.

[DigitalTron]

I have no doubt that Spurs could consistently fill a 50K stadium. I think that we need to build a 60k+ stadium though, and that would likely not be filled to capacity much of the time. But, if we build a 55k stadium now and have clear plans for expansion to more than 60k, I think we'll be fine. I can't see us filling an Old Trafford sized stadium anytime soon. But, if we're going to put money into a new stadium, we can't be limited to a maximum capacity of less than 60k IMHO.

That's why I'm against upgrading WHL, because the maximum would be mid 50's and the transport links can't handle our present 36k, so it would depress demand for tickets because of the transport nightmare. It clearly doesn't look like the transport links are going to be upgraded, at least not for Spurs. If that area were to grow considerably and generate a lot more tax revenues and need to upgrade the links in the future, maybe, but that'd likely be at least a decade away, probably more.

So, unfortunately, I think a new stadium will eventually be the solution. I just hope we don't wait too long to start the initiative, becasue those things take a lot of time. It's very hard to get a location that has all 3 vital elements: 1) affordable land, 2) situated close to sufficient public transportation, and 3) located within the market area, in this case north London.

-Digital

[PoshSpur]

It's more than likely that Haringey council will not fund the massive costs of installing tram and underground stations anywhere near the ground as that could run near the 100 million+ mark.

Our only option is to build a new stadium. I am very sure that the Pickett's Lock area is sufficient enough for us to achieve this.

Again though, we would have the never ending challenge of not having a tube station near it, but I feel that that wouldn't be such a problem as the congestion around the area is fine as it's literally 2 minutes from the nearest motorway/highway (if from EU).

But again, that would cost 200+ million and that my friends, is a massive expense.

Remember also, that we're not the only ones on the look out for a new stamping ground. Chel$ki are too. Heaven's know's where they'll build?

:)

[andylamb]

I am pleased that the vote on this thread shows a majority to redevelop the Lane. I'm a bit of a sentimental git and it would sadden me to leave behind the site of all those magic moments, and all of that special footage.

Man United fans look down on the place where their legends like George Best and Bobby Charlton did their stuff, and Spurs fans should get to see the place where the likes of Greaves and Hoddle performed.

It's so important, Arsenal left the library behind, Liverpool are doing it, it's sad. The Championship and below clubs like Derby and Stoke have moved to Matalan stadiums without decent atmostphere. Wembley is half and half, it's not exactly where the '23 lone White Horse was, or Moore raised Jules Rimet, or Band Aid, but it's the same site.

OK, so you might say it's necessary to be hard headed to progress, but I argue that there is more to football than that. I'll take 25 minutes from Seven Sisters over 2 minutes from Finsbury Park any day of the week. The Lane is the place, it's the site of the glory and it's where our dads stood and I stood throughout the troubled 80s and it's where our kids sit today. I remember leaving the stadium after 46,000 gates in the early 80s and the crowd dispersed to Hale, Seven Sisters, Bruce Grove, Northumberland Park, I don't remember it being a problem (one single notorious Man Utd game excepted). There's not so much back street car parking available now of course, but these things tend to self-regulate.

Spurs need another 10-15000 on the Lane, that's all. Could do with a match day club shop that you can actually move in though :). Don't desert our roots and history, like them up the road did.

Too much business in football. I don't think the word "club" is appropriate anymore. Should be replaced with "plc".

[Colm]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=448783&CPID=8&clid=6&lid=2&title=Spurs+to+decide+on+stadium

decision to made within a year.