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Coach_Barry
12 Sep 2006, 11:51 AM
When I played indoor at "The Bubble" in Mansfield, my friend and I would have a little friendly competition and keep track of our personal goal differential, then compare how we did after the game.
MLFS, conveniently, keeps track of the goals scored for and against for each player while they are on the field.
Here are the Revs players GD
John +4
Brown + 3
Dempsey +3
Joseph +1
Hernandez 0
Simms 0
Ralston 0
Cancela -1
Smith -1
Noonan -1
Galik -1
Lochhead -1
Dorman -2
Heaps -2
Reis -2
Larentowicz - -3
Parkhurst -3
Twellman -3
Riley -4
Franchino -9
If I went straight with these scores, then our best starting XI would have to be:
Simms Noonan
Smith Cancela Joseph Dempsey Brown
John Hernandez Ralston
Reis
But with our current injuries we'd have to go with this for tomorrow night:
Smith Dempsey
Ralston Galik Cancela Joseph Brown
Lochhead John Heaps
Reis
So, it's not perfect.
patfan1
12 Sep 2006, 12:08 PM
Franchino -9
Umm .... wow. I know this doesn't give all the info that's needed to judge the -9, but that's a pretty amazing number.
REV-OKe
12 Sep 2006, 12:09 PM
When I played indoor at "The Bubble" in Mansfield, my friend and I would have a little friendly competition and keep track of our personal goal differential, then compare how we did after the game.
MLFS, conveniently, keeps track of the goals scored for and against for each player while they are on the field.
Here are the Revs players GD
John +4
Brown + 3
Dempsey +3
Joseph +1
Hernandez 0
Simms 0
Ralston 0
Cancela -1
Smith -1
Noonan -1
Galik -1
Lochhead -1
Dorman -2
Heaps -2
Reis -2
Larentowicz - -3
Parkhurst -3
Twellman -3
Riley -4
Franchino -9
If I went straight with these scores, then our best starting XI would have to be:
Simms Noonan
Smith Cancela Joseph Dempsey Brown
John Hernandez Ralston
Reis
But with our current injuries we'd have to go with this for tomorrow night:
Smith Dempsey
Ralston Galik Cancela Joseph Brown
Lochhead John Heaps
Reis
So, it's not perfect.
How does franchino manage to be that much (-)?
wow.
Tobas
12 Sep 2006, 12:15 PM
These numbers actually show what many of us have been saying.
Smith over Franchino...ABSOLUTELY
Smith -1
Franchino -9
So people wanting John over Riley...ABSOLUTELY
John +4
Riley -4
Cancela over Dorman/Larentowicz as AM...SURE
Cancela -1
Dorman -2
Larentowicz -3
More Brown or Sims?...YES as a late sub, stupid 1 sub rule
Brown +3
Simms 0
Tobas
12 Sep 2006, 12:16 PM
How does franchino manage to be that much (-)?
wow.
Helping on defense does not overcome the killing of the offense.
RevsRule
12 Sep 2006, 01:11 PM
We don't need no stinkin numbers. Joey starts, captain for life! period :D
VTSoccerFan
12 Sep 2006, 01:30 PM
Can we add columns of minutes played, games played, team record in games which the player appeared?
Before making any inferences it might also be interesting to look at these stats too since my +/- is 0 right now which makes me more valuable than half our team :)
Argyle
12 Sep 2006, 02:27 PM
Can we add columns of minutes played, games played, team record in games which the player appeared?
Before making any inferences it might also be interesting to look at these stats too since my +/- is 0 right now which makes me more valuable than half our team :)
Strange, I'm at -1.
ktsd
12 Sep 2006, 02:28 PM
Can we add columns of minutes played, games played, team record in games which the player appeared?
Before making any inferences it might also be interesting to look at these stats too since my +/- is 0 right now which makes me more valuable than half our team :)
Would you play for $24K?
Coach_Barry
22 Sep 2006, 08:21 AM
Updated after the New Jersey game
John +6
Dempsey +5
Brown + 3
Ralston +2
Joseph +1
Hernandez 0
Simms 0
Dorman 0
Heaps 0
Reis 0
Parkhurst -1
Twellman -1
Cancela -1
Smith -1
Noonan -1
Galik -1
Lochhead -1
Larentowicz -1
Riley -2
Franchino -7
Starting XI
Simms Twellman
Cancela
Ralston Dempsey Dorman Brown
John Parkhurst Heaps
Reis
Coach_Barry
22 Sep 2006, 08:30 AM
Can we add columns of minutes played, games played, team record in games which the player appeared?
Before making any inferences it might also be interesting to look at these stats too since my +/- is 0 right now which makes me more valuable than half our team :)
Admittedly not perfect, but still interesting. As for the other stats, perhaps a minimum # of games/minutes played would give the list more validity. As for team record in games played, I am not sure I would want to credit a player with a win if the team was down and then came back when he was subbed out. Though Joey did say during our Revolution Recap interview that one of his contributions to the team is to tire out the opponents right-sided player so that Khano could then come on and run at a tired player for 20 minutes.