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The Grimster
30 Jan 2007, 08:52 AM
Are you people that are saying stuff like Kipling and heroin for Afghanistan for real?? What planet are you living on??

Perhaps he meant this:

THE YOUNG BRITISH SOLDIER


When the 'arf-made recruity goes out to the East
'E acts like a babe an' 'e drinks like a beast,
An' 'e wonders because 'e is frequent deceased
Ere 'e's fit for to serve as a soldier.
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
Serve, serve, serve as a soldier,
So-oldier ~OF~ the Queen!

Now all you recruities what's drafted to-day,
You shut up your rag-box an' 'ark to my lay,
An' I'll sing you a soldier as far as I may:
A soldier what's fit for a soldier.
Fit, fit, fit for a soldier . . .

First mind you steer clear o' the grog-sellers' huts,
For they sell you Fixed Bay'nets that rots out your guts --
Ay, drink that 'ud eat the live steel from your butts --
An' it's bad for the young British soldier.
Bad, bad, bad for the soldier . . .

When the cholera comes -- as it will past a doubt --
Keep out of the wet and don't go on the shout,
For the sickness gets in as the liquor dies out,
An' it crumples the young British soldier.
Crum-, crum-, crumples the soldier . . .

But the worst o' your foes is the sun over'ead:
You ~must~ wear your 'elmet for all that is said:
If 'e finds you uncovered 'e'll knock you down dead,
An' you'll die like a fool of a soldier.
Fool, fool, fool of a soldier . . .

If you're cast for fatigue by a sergeant unkind,
Don't grouse like a woman nor crack on nor blind;
Be handy and civil, and then you will find
That it's beer for the young British soldier.
Beer, beer, beer for the soldier . . .

Now, if you must marry, take care she is old --
A troop-sergeant's widow's the nicest I'm told,
For beauty won't help if your rations is cold,
Nor love ain't enough for a soldier.
'Nough, 'nough, 'nough for a soldier . . .

If the wife should go wrong with a comrade, be loath
To shoot when you catch 'em -- you'll swing, on my oath! --
Make 'im take 'er and keep 'er: that's Hell for them both,
An' you're shut o' the curse of a soldier.
Curse, curse, curse of a soldier . . .

When first under fire an' you're wishful to duck,
Don't look nor take 'eed at the man that is struck,
Be thankful you're livin', and trust to your luck
And march to your front like a soldier.
Front, front, front like a soldier . . .

When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch,
Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old bitch;
She's human as you are -- you treat her as sich,
An' she'll fight for the young British soldier.
Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . .

When shakin' their bustles like ladies so fine,
The guns o' the enemy wheel into line,
Shoot low at the limbers an' don't mind the shine,
For noise never startles the soldier.
Start-, start-, startles the soldier . . .

If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
And wait for supports like a soldier.
Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier ~of~ the Queen!

Rudyard Kipling

johan neeskens
31 Jan 2007, 05:31 AM
Netherlands: Capitalism


Interesting. Were you thinking of the Dutch East Indies Company?

CosmosKramer
31 Jan 2007, 10:39 AM
Interesting. Were you thinking of the Dutch East Indies Company?


My guess is tulips.

http://www.investopedia.com/features/crashes/crashes2.asp

johan neeskens
02 Feb 2007, 05:19 AM
My guess is tulips.

http://www.investopedia.com/features/crashes/crashes2.asp

Possibly. I thought it was because the Dutch east indies company was the first in the world to issue shares.

quentinc
07 Feb 2007, 07:00 PM
I'm 17, so my recollections are extremely modern. (And for any country with a decent one, I typically think of their football team first).

Afghanistan: Taliban
Argentina: Falklands
Austria: Schwarzenegger
Australia: hmmm
Bahrain: Small
Belgium: EU headquarters
Brazil: soccer
Burma: English colonization
Cambodia: Pol Pot/Dead Kennedys
Canada: Quebec separatists
Chile: copper
China: The top 10 of my graduating class
Colombia: Pablo Escobar
Denmark: Best child-care system in the world (I'm reaching)
Egypt: Pallette of Narmer
Ethiopia: Distance Running
France: Zidane
Georgia; I read a story in National Geographic about it - looked like a cool place
Germany: My mom's family, engineers
Greece: Plato
Hungary: Hungarian Revolution
India: Kashmir
Iran: Uranium Enrichment
Iraq: The debacle
Ireland: Potato Famine/Terrorism
Israel: Islamic Terrorism
Italy: Renaissance
Japan: Pearl Harbor
Jordan: The Bible
Korea: Korean War
Kuwait: Oil
Lebanon: Last summer
Mexico: Illegal Immigration
Netherlands: The Hague
New Zealand: Maori
Norway: John Arne Riise
Pakistan: Kashmir
Papua New Guinea: Many languages
Poland: Solidarity
Portugal: Brazil
Romania: I dunno
Russia: Corrupt government/cover-ups
Saudi Arabia: Oil
Serbia: Argentina 6-0 Serbia/Montenegro
Singapore: Small/Growing
South Africa: Nelson Mandela
Spain: Basques
Sweden: Socialism
Switzerland: Swiss Guards (not swiss, I know)
Syria: Next to Israel
Thailand: Pad Thai
Tunisia: Not sure
Turkey: Kurds
Ukraine: Chernobyl
United Kingdom: Buckingham Palace
United States: Revolution
Yemen: ...
Vietnam: Burning Draft Cards
Zimbabwe: Nick Price

quentinc
07 Feb 2007, 07:06 PM
Poland: Kafka
Isn't he Czech?

yasik19
07 Feb 2007, 08:31 PM
Isn't he Czech?

yeah, I was stupidly wrong. Have no idea why I thought of Poland.

Poland - 1939

dreamer
09 Feb 2007, 07:21 PM
Afghanistan: the Hazara people
Argentina: Maradona
Austria: snow mountains
Australia: crocs, nicole kidman, opera house, kaola bears, kangaroos
Bahrain: grassrolling
Belgium: they speak French.
Brazil: beautiful style of play, carnivals
Burma: drugs
Cambodia: wars
Canada: maple sugar
Chile: mountains by the sea
China: good food
Colombia: drug related crimes
Denmark: Anderson fairy tales
Egypt: the pyrimid
Ethiopia: I want to try their ant dishes someday.
France: Paris Hilton :D
Georgia; Putin looking very upset.
Germany: "Danke" "Beat it" :D
Greece: Olympics
Hungary: Dracula
India: Taj Mahal
Iran: IM
Iraq: Saddam
Ireland: let's drink up
Israel: another wealthy little country
Italy: pasta
Japan: pearl harbor
Jordan: has a good looking queen
Korea: kimchi
Kuwait: Saddam
Lebanon: Can't say "leb" in Australia because it's an racial slur
Mexico: hard working people
Netherlands: red light district
New Zealand: kiwi
Norway: pirates
Pakistan: nice people
Portugal: macau
Romania: ceausescu
Russia: the long term capital debacle
Saudi Arabia: OPEC
Serbia: Monica Seles
Singapore: very clean
South Africa: Mandela
Spain: real madrid
Sweden: blondes
Switzerland: Swiss watch
Syria: Iran's friend
Thailand: spicy food
Tunisia: vacation home
Turkey: thanksgiving :D
United Kingdom: Diana
United States: center of the world
Yemen: democracy
Vietnam: Veitnam war

yasik19
09 Feb 2007, 08:27 PM
Israel: money talks

wtf?

odessit19
09 Feb 2007, 08:49 PM
wtf?

I echo that - WTF does that bullshit mean dreamer?

dreamer
09 Feb 2007, 08:58 PM
I echo that - WTF does that bullshit mean dreamer?


Oh come on. Didn't mean anything thing bad there.

Besides, Jews are rich, no? :D

odessit19
09 Feb 2007, 09:01 PM
Oh come on. Didn't mean anything thing bad there.

Besides, Jews are rich, no? :D

:confused: Are they the only ones that are rich and the overall standard of living in Israel is not that high at all.
If this was a joke, I just don't get it. There are more Jews in US than in Israel, so should the same apply for US?

dreamer
09 Feb 2007, 09:10 PM
:confused: Are they the only ones that are rich and the overall standard of living in Israel is not that high at all.

Really? I imagine wrong then. Most of the Jewish people I know, in the States, are quite well off. Just thought it was the same case in Israel too. :D




If this was a joke, I just don't get it. There are more Jews in US than in Israel, so should the same apply for US?

Why? The US is not a Jewish state. Only 2% of the US is Jewish. Israel is a Jewish state. 90% or Israel is Jewish.

Anyway, didn't mean to offend you. But if I did, do you suggest me do some editing? I'm changing it to "another wealthy little country."

quentinc
10 Feb 2007, 12:49 AM
:confused: Are they the only ones that are rich and the overall standard of living in Israel is not that high at all.
If this was a joke, I just don't get it. There are more Jews in US than in Israel, so should the same apply for US?
Although I don't agree with dreamer's stereotyping, I would refute the fact that the standard of living is "not high at all," as they have a GDP per capita of $26,000. For comparison, that's 5k higher than Kuwait.

odessit19
10 Feb 2007, 01:09 AM
Although I don't agree with dreamer's stereotyping, I would refute the fact that the standard of living is "not high at all," as they have a GDP per capita of $26,000. For comparison, that's 5k higher than Kuwait.

Right I agree, but the level of poverty has been at all time high there from I have recently read, 18 percent live below poverty level. In any case, maybe this is the wrong thread to go in depth about this.

quentinc
10 Feb 2007, 11:12 AM
Right I agree, but the level of poverty has been at all time high there from I have recently read, 18 percent live below poverty level. In any case, maybe this is the wrong thread to go in depth about this.
That's similar to any developing country, such as Russia. The standard of living isn't desperate as you seem to imply.

dreamer
11 Feb 2007, 03:36 AM
That's similar to any developing country, such as Russia. The standard of living isn't desperate as you seem to imply.


Not Russia. Russia's GDP per capita is about $6,000. Israel's is about $20,000.

quentinc
11 Feb 2007, 10:42 AM
Not Russia. Russia's GDP per capita is about $6,000. Israel's is about $20,000.
I was referring to the poverty level.

And Russia's GDP per capita is about 16k, while Israel's is about 26k.

dreamer
11 Feb 2007, 10:46 AM
I was referring to the poverty level.

And Russia's GDP per capita is about 16k, while Israel's is about 26k.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita
30 Israel 19,248

61 Russia 5,349

quentinc
11 Feb 2007, 11:01 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita
30 Israel 19,248

61 Russia 5,349
How about we use a reputable source (and how about we don't use nominal GDP, which is nonsensical in comparing things):

Israel (https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/is.html#Econ)

Russia (https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html#Econ)