View Full Version : BBC to Air Exposee of 'Bungs'
Alan_V
08 Sep 2006, 05:08 PM
http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/news/article1371961.ece
The Independent is reporting that the show will air later this month. Alleges that three Premiership teams and at least one 'leading' agent were targetted and others will be named in tapping up incidents.
lanman
08 Sep 2006, 06:23 PM
Let me guess - one of these teams will be Portsmouth and the agent will be Pini Zahavi.
schafer
08 Sep 2006, 06:29 PM
Let me guess - one of these teams will be Portsmouth and the agent will be Pini Zahavi.
Too easy.:p
england66
09 Sep 2006, 05:31 PM
Let me guess - one of these teams will be Portsmouth and the agent will be Pini Zahavi.
"Arry as bin at it for fackin' years mate....'ears 'opin 'ee gets fackin' caught mate...
lost
09 Sep 2006, 06:40 PM
Arry was finaly going to win this league this season. Now instead hes off to prison. unlucky.
g00gle
10 Sep 2006, 07:41 AM
EXCLUSIVE: BBC Bung storm
Beeb bung names revealed
By Rob Beasley
THE News of the World can reveal the football clubs, managers and staff targeted in the TV bung row tearing soccer apart.
High-profile staff at Bolton, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough have had letters from the BBC's Panorama programme telling them they have been suckered into an elaborate sting aimed at exposing the bung culture in English football.
Among the BBC's targets are Pompey manager Harry Redknapp, ex-player Kevin Bond, now at Newcastle, and Craig Allardyce, son of Bolton boss Sam.
Others involved are soccer agent Peter Harrison, Sven Goran Eriksson's manager Athole Still and England star Stewart Downing's agent Ian Elliott.
Undercover
They were among a long list of soccer personalities introduced to a German businessman called Knut Aufdemberge.
He claimed to represent a mega-rich American tycoon, Paul Silverman, who wanted to launch a new, money-rich sports agency in the UK called Dynamic Soccer.
What the football men did not know was that the two "businessmen" were really undercover BBC investigators.
The pair secretly recorded meetings and conversations over a six-month period.
They tried to persuade some of their targets to offer huge sums of money to Premiership managers illegally in a bid to involve them financially in the new agency.
All the BBC targets vigorously deny any wrong-doing.
They insist they refused to offer or accept bribes.
Harrison even sent an e-mail to Aufdemberge last April threatening to report him.
He then wrote to the FA two weeks ago, warning them that two mysterious businessmen were attempting to bribe Premiership managers.
But before that, Harrison helped set up a meeting between Redknapp, Bond and Aufdemberge at Portsmouth's training complex.
We contacted both Harrison and Redknapp last night and both refused to comment. The Portsmouth manager has made it known that he has contacted his lawyers to defend his reputation.
One man who did go on the record was Ian Elliott, who insisted he had done nothing wrong.
Buy
He explained: "I agreed to a meeting because I was told these people wanted to buy my company, Elliott Sports Management, for £1.2million. It all seemed too good to be true.
"The meeting did not last long, about 20 minutes I think.
"Afterwards I told my accountant and my lawyer that things just didn't add up.
"And I must stress that the subject of paying managers or players was never raised by me or by them."
Bolton boss Sam Allardyce is privately furious that BBC bosses tried to take advantage of his son.
Craig Allardyce quit being a sports agent last month amid concerns he could be compromising his father's position in the game.
The BBC sting began last November when Aufdemberge first contacted Harrison.
The pair had a number of meetings and dinners to discuss the project. Aufdemberge claimed Silverman wanted to form a "super" agency in England.
His plan was to unite a number of top English agents who would work together to take on the game's biggest names.
Dynamic Soccer claimed they would pay managers cash bungs of around £200,000 to get involved in their company.
But the News of the World understands that all the BBC's targets refused, insisting the plot would breach FA rules.
Harrison claims he was told he alone could earn a staggering £1.8m if he could help to launch the agency successfully.
The agent was so keen to cash in he even wrote a detailed business plan for Silverman to put into operation and also recommended a number of agents who might be interested.
Corruption
He suggested Ian Elliott, Craig Allardyce and Athole Still.
A BBC insider said: "All the agents fell for the story.
"They had no idea the company was not for real or that the two individuals were in fact reporters.
"The tactics were to persuade them to offer Premiership managers large sums of money to get involved in the company. It was hoped it would uncover widespread corruption.
"Now there is a big legal row over what Panorama can or cannot screen."
FA chiefs have vowed to investigate, providing the BBC shows them its evidence.
The programme is due to be screened later this month — providing it gets the green light from lawyers.
srd....
10 Sep 2006, 07:58 AM
the Beeb will get sued so badly over this,reports on the t.v. this morning are speculateing that it will not even be aired.
lanman
10 Sep 2006, 07:59 AM
Ian Elliot has already shown he is not bothered by FA rules.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2006/07/Elliott_Charged.htm
england66
18 Sep 2006, 02:23 PM
the Beeb will get sued so badly over this,reports on the t.v. this morning are speculateing that it will not even be aired.
apparently its still on for tomorrow night and according to the article at www.espnsoccernet.com the revelations "will rock football".....here's hoping they do....and finally start to clear this crap up.
lanman
18 Sep 2006, 02:47 PM
...here's hoping they do....and finally start to clear this crap up.
It will probably just end up as a damp squib. Much as I would love it to actually pull some serious stuff up, I just can't help but think it's media hype and we'll see a couple of non-entity agents dropped in it.
655321
18 Sep 2006, 03:31 PM
I just wish they'd stop using the word "bung".
england66
18 Sep 2006, 04:38 PM
I just wish they'd stop using the word "bung".
so does "Arry.....
Crimen y Castigo
18 Sep 2006, 04:44 PM
Knowing very little about all this, are Bolton, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough really the problem here? Are their illicit and devious ways the reason for their massive, bulging trophy cases and multi-million dollar signings?
Seems a bit like blaming Lynndie England for Abu Ghraib, to use the most inflammatory and divisive metaphor possible.
england66
18 Sep 2006, 04:46 PM
Knowing very little about all this, are Portsmouth really the problem here? Are their illicit and devious ways the reason for their massive, bulging trophy cases and multi-million dollar signings?
no....just the reason for 'Arry's bulging pockets.....
england66
18 Sep 2006, 05:01 PM
just got off the phone with my brother...he lives on Merseyside....I asked if he was going to watch the show tomorrow....his reponse was "Nah....everyone knows it Rednapp and Alerdyce,,,,,they've been doing it for years"....
lanman
18 Sep 2006, 05:05 PM
Knowing very little about all this, are Bolton, Portsmouth and Middlesbrough really the problem here?
From what I've heard, the only reason Bolton and Middlesbrough have been mentioned in this is through agents with loose ties to the club (Allardyce's son, Downing's agent) although almost everyone has heard at least one story or another about 'Arry.
The main problem with the situation as a whole as far as I'm concerned is that there are far too many people with a financial interest in this who don't care one bit about the game. Ultimately, agents see football as a chance to make their fortune and don't give a damn about the effect it has on the sport. They get their cut from transfers and they're happy. I've heard one story about an agent trying to pressure a young player to sign his first contract with a club he didn't want to because this club was offering him, as an agent, a nice fee whereas the other club wasn't. The player in question only ever wanted to sign with one club, but was initially pressured and then offered part of the fee himself.
The options as I see them are either:
1 - The only agents allowed to broker deals with clubs are payed for by the FA/Players Union and receive a set salary. If the player wants an agent for non footballing matters then that's fine, but he has nothing to do with the sport and gets no money out of it.
2 - All deals with agents are made solely by the players themselves. Payments from clubs to agents are made illegal.
england66
18 Sep 2006, 05:14 PM
From what I've heard, the only reason Bolton and Middlesbrough have been mentioned in this is through agents with loose ties to the club (Allardyce's son, Downing's agent) although almost everyone has heard at least one story or another about 'Arry.
The main problem with the situation as a whole as far as I'm concerned is that there are far too many people with a financial interest in this who don't care one bit about the game. Ultimately, agents see football as a chance to make their fortune and don't give a damn about the effect it has on the sport. They get their cut from transfers and they're happy. I've heard one story about an agent trying to pressure a young player to sign his first contract with a club he didn't want to because this club was offering him, as an agent, a nice fee whereas the other club wasn't. The player in question only ever wanted to sign with one club, but was initially pressured and then offered part of the fee himself.
The options as I see them are either:
1 - The only agents allowed to broker deals with clubs are payed for by the FA/Players Union and receive a set salary. If the player wants an agent for non footballing matters then that's fine, but he has nothing to do with the sport and gets no money out of it.
2 - All deals with agents are made solely by the players themselves. Payments from clubs to agents are made illegal.
If they brought in your suggestions....Fackin' 'Arry wud 'av a fackin' art attack mate....'oo the fack 'is goin' to pay for 'is Villas in the fackin' Algarve....??
lanman
18 Sep 2006, 05:37 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5357822.stm
lost
18 Sep 2006, 09:37 PM
If they brought in your suggestions....Fackin' 'Arry wud 'av a fackin' art attack mate....'oo the fack 'is goin' to pay for 'is Villas in the fackin' Algarve....??
oo tha fack ar yoo kawlin fackin arry? ees a geeza, yoo fackin naffink, ees a fackin lejen rand ere, jew naw enyfink? ees kleener dan a fackin wissel, ee never robbed naffink offa nawun, in is owl life. ass is owl laydy, shes a fackin anjewl, enywaw, back to me owl ees en entertainment:
knees up maver brawn
knees up maver brawn
knees up
knees up
gotcha get cha knees up
knees up muver braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
england66
18 Sep 2006, 09:41 PM
oo tha fack ar yoo kawlin fackin arry? ees a geeza, yoo fackin naffink, ees a fackin lejen rand ere, jew naw enyfink? ees kleener dan a fackin wissel, ee never robbed naffink offa nawun, in is owl life. ass is owl laydy, shes a fackin anjewl, enywaw, back to me owl ees en entertainment:
knees up maver brawn
knees up maver brawn
knees up
knees up
gotcha get cha knees up
knees up muver braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
LMFAO......he's the biggest crook in the game and I hope to God they nail his stealing, cheating, robbing arse....