View Full Version : Just what we need: Man Ure in for Duff
Motterman
02 Aug 2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by trickyfool
Does Anyone really think Ferdinand is worth 30 mill? Just wondering.....
2 Points:
1) In a year or two we will know if he is worth the 30 mil.
2) With transfer fees out there for Zizzou and the like, is any player worth millions and millions?
benine
02 Aug 2002, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Stamen
Firstly, he is not a striker, but a left winger who can play a bit up front, and secondly £20m is not too much for him. If you saw him playing for Blackburn last season, you'd understand. But then he doesn't play for Brazil and Real Madrid, so he is obviously not very good.
Whatever. I'm going by primarily what I've seen of the Ireland side over the past few years, so that's why i'm calling him a striker (and that is where ManU would use him). His style is not worth 20 million and I've thought for the longest that he's not too good of a team player, very loving of the ball. Really, before this last WC, who would possibly think near 12 million for him, let alone 20?
sydtheeagle
02 Aug 2002, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by trickyfool
Does Anyone really think Ferdinand is worth 30 mill? Just wondering.....
We can speculate, but we don't need to. And it's got nothing really to do with the financial state of the game, either.
Last year, United won exactly nothing and most people would agree that the centre of the defence was the major reason.
If Rio comes in, United win the European Cup and/or the Premiership, he'll have been worth it. Simple as that. Why? Because no matter what anyone else is paying for players anywhere else, United will have made more money as a result of the signing than they'll have spent on it. In which case, it'll have been a good deal.
The goal here is pretty simple: Thirty pieces of silver for a few peices of silverware, really.
Mc_Midas
02 Aug 2002, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by benine
Whatever. I'm going by primarily what I've seen of the Ireland side over the past few years, so that's why i'm calling him a striker (and that is where ManU would use him). His style is not worth 20 million and I've thought for the longest that he's not too good of a team player, very loving of the ball. Really, before this last WC, who would possibly think near 12 million for him, let alone 20?
ireland didn't have that tough opposition so he should have shined - they did decent but opposition was a bit lacking.
Syncope
02 Aug 2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by trickyfool
Does Anyone really think Ferdinand is worth 30 mill? Just wondering..... If a player improves your already very good team, then any price (hypothetically) is worth if you can afford to pay the price. If you haven't the money and you still buy him then it isn't worth it (Fiorentina). ManU is a pretty astutely run business, so I'm guessing it was worth it. Which, of course, is a pisser.
MikeyM
02 Aug 2002, 12:57 PM
Whether its Duff, Ferdinand, or Zidane, if you think that player will make you a better team & able to win trophies, & you can afford the fee then its not overpaying. However if that player doesn't perform & or you don't win, & you can afford the fee really, then you overpaid. United wouldn't pay the fees for Ruud, Seba, & Rio. So far they didn't overpay on Ruud, they did on Seba, & Rio we don't know. If they can afford 20million for Duff & he helps advance the cause it will be worth it.
seahawkdad
02 Aug 2002, 01:13 PM
According to The4thGame.com, Kenyon is denying that the club will be signing Duff. "There is absolutely no truth in this. The reports are wrong."
I certainly hope so.
Mc_Midas
02 Aug 2002, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Syncope
If a player improves your already very good team, then any price (hypothetically) is worth if you can afford to pay the price. If you haven't the money and you still buy him then it isn't worth it (Fiorentina). ManU is a pretty astutely run business, so I'm guessing it was worth it. Which, of course, is a pisser.
ferdinand will improve the team deffo he is solid and a far better player than blanc. i am sure man u thought of the money can can bring in from merchandise of him.
Doctor Stamen
02 Aug 2002, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by benine
Whatever. I'm going by primarily what I've seen of the Ireland side over the past few years, so that's why i'm calling him a striker (and that is where ManU would use him). His style is not worth 20 million and I've thought for the longest that he's not too good of a team player, very loving of the ball. Really, before this last WC, who would possibly think near 12 million for him, let alone 20?
I have been watching him since his debut, and trust me he is worth £20m+. I agree with you that he's only a makeshift striker, but as a left winger, he is devastating. His link up play with Matt Jansen and Cole at Blackburn is something to behold, and he is only 23 or so, so he's going to get better. Ireland played him slightly out of position, as there is a lack of real quality up front to go with Keane (unless Morrison gets it together).
TravisMinor_23
04 Aug 2002, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by trickyfool
Does Anyone really think Ferdinand is worth 30 mill? Just wondering.....
Yes. Rio Ferdinand is a world class defender just entering his prime with a good 10 years of football ahead of him before he even BEGINS to lose form due to age. Compare that to the older defenders who Manchester had a chance to get (Ayala and Thurman) who have far fewer years of prime in their future. This move gave Man U. an established defender in English football (could they wait for another player to adjust like Blanc had to?) and solidifies their weakest spot. If you look at this move as a speculative one along with one that will fix some of their current problems the 30 mil price tag seems fair. But then again if he performs like Veron someone will undoubtedly pay :D