The restaurant is under new management

[gotyourback]

You know the one - where it's the same place, with a makeover, a different menu, and different manager? Maybe even a name change after a seven year cycle?

So what are the chances that Kraft changes the manager and hopefully changes the menu of performance? Is it time for a paradigm shift to motivate a more valuable side?.. maybe reinvigorate a spark of passion within fans?

[Tony Biscaia]

The US Soccer Hall of Fame will also soon be under new management, as Will Lunn has resigned as president. A search will be conducted for his successor, with Hall of Famer George Brown (Class of 1995) serving as acting President until one is found.

Will brought the HOF a long way into respectability in recent years, and will be missed. Too bad the honchos at MLS didn't give him much support...

[Soccer Doc]

You know the one - where it's the same place, with a makeover, a different menu, and different manager? Maybe even a name change after a seven year cycle?

So what are the chances that Kraft changes the manager and hopefully changes the menu of performance? Is it time for a paradigm shift to motivate a more valuable side?.. maybe reinvigorate a spark of passion within fans?

Is that you Big Frank? We've missed you a lot. If it's you it sounds like you've gone back to a University to learn how to be obscure and obtuse in presenting your arguments. :cool:

[peabrainedidiot]

You know the one - where it's the same place, with a makeover, a different menu, and different manager? Maybe even a name change after a seven year cycle?

So what are the chances that Kraft changes the manager and hopefully changes the menu of performance? Is it time for a paradigm shift to motivate a more valuable side?.. maybe reinvigorate a spark of passion within fans?
I see nothing changing as long as krafts own the club.
apparently the quick stop to say hello durning the playoffs was just blowing smoke up our ass. they'll make coaching and staffing changes, but they are less then 100% committed owners. I think we've seen the absolute max of what the krafts are willing to put in, untill the MLS model changes. they are followers, not leaders. and I think they wwant MLS to do most of the work for them. we'll have up years and down years, if we get lucky, we may have a director of a soccer opps someday who can be creative and do a lot with a little. At this point, I just expect more of the same. high seasons, low seasons and frustration. :o

[prk166]

I was wondering the same. a little while back. If I'm correct, it's not Nicol's last year of his contract and he's got the team the MLS Cup final twice. Then again this is his 4th full year in charge. I could see the FO figuring they'll wait another year. I could see them deciding he's taken the team as far as he can and negotiating a "resignation" in the off-season.


Steve Nicol
Overall : 54-47-27
2006 : 7-8-10
2005 : 17-7-8
2004 : 8-13-9
2003 : 12-9-9
2002 : 10-10-1

[patfan1]

Steve Nicol
Overall : 54-47-27
2006 : 7-8-10
2005 : 17-7-8
2004 : 8-13-9
2003 : 12-9-9
2002 : 10-10-1
It really is kind of sad when you look at the regular season record. Basically 3 mediocre years, one bad year and one good year.

[JMMUSA8]

It really is kind of sad when you look at the regular season record. Basically 3 mediocre years, one bad year and one good year.
And there is no coincidence why 04 and 06 have similiar records. 2004 the Revs set the record for most player games lost due to injuries.

[rkane1226]

I was wondering the same. a little while back. If I'm correct, it's not Nicol's last year of his contract and he's got the team the MLS Cup final twice. Then again this is his 4th full year in charge. I could see the FO figuring they'll wait another year. I could see them deciding he's taken the team as far as he can and negotiating a "resignation" in the off-season.


Steve Nicol
Overall : 54-47-27
2006 : 7-8-10
2005 : 17-7-8
2004 : 8-13-9
2003 : 12-9-9
2002 : 10-10-1
Okay, check my math...

I believe that means that in percentages, SN is 42%-37%-21%

I used this page http://www.rsssf.com/tablesu/usaalltime.html to get records through last year. I hope it is accurate.


Team W% D% L%
Los Angeles Galaxy 47% 17% 36%
Chicago Fire 47% 17% 36%
Washington DC United 42% 18% 40%
Tampa Bay Mutiny 39% 9% 52%
Columbus Crew 39% 18% 43%
Dallas Burn/FC 38% 17% 45%
Miami Fusion 38% 16% 46%
New York/New Jersey Metrosta 38% 15% 47%
San Jose Clash/Earthquakes 38% 22% 41%
Colorado Rapids 37% 17% 46%
Kansas City Wizards 37% 21% 42%
New England Revolution 34% 19% 48%
Real Salt Lake 16% 16% 69%
CD Chivas USA 13% 19% 69%

Proving (???) that by MLS Standards SN is just that good.

Of course, I still don't want to keep him.

[Edit]

[peabrainedidiot]

if my bitterness could be harnessed as energy, the would would have a never ending supply.

I'm really starting to believe it's not all sn and that it's the krafts. I just don't think they give a flying ******** any more (or if they ever did).

[patfan1]

Team W% D% L%
Los Angeles Galaxy 47% 17% 5%
Chicago Fire 47% 17% 2%
Washington DC United 42% 18% 4%
Tampa Bay Mutiny 39% 9% 9%
Columbus Crew 39% 18% 6%
Dallas Burn/FC 38% 17% 4%
Miami Fusion 38% 16% 3%
New York/New Jersey Metrosta 38% 15% 3%
San Jose Clash/Earthquakes 38% 22% 7%
Colorado Rapids 37% 17% 4%
Kansas City Wizards 37% 21% 5%
New England Revolution 34% 19% 6%
Real Salt Lake 16% 16% 0%
CD Chivas USA 13% 19% 0%

None of those add up to 100%, so I'm a bit confused on how that table works.

And just to make things worse ... it was disgusting to see that 3 times in 10 years (about to be 11) have we finished the regular season in the top half of the teams in the league.

EDIT: You used the Shootout loss column instead of just the loss column. That's why it doesn't add up.

[rkane1226]

None of those add up to 100%, so I'm a bit confused on how that table works.

And just to make things worse ... it was disgusting to see that 3 times in 10 years (about to be 11) have we finished the regular season in the top half of the teams in the league.

EDIT: You used the Shootout loss column instead of just the loss column. That's why it doesn't add up.

Yes, I was in the midst of fixing it while you posted. I've edited and hope it is correct now.

I think SN wins for having the highest Draw percentage.

[jw]

This restaurant had potential for awhile there, now, however...

The chef is feeding us bull**it...
The atmosphere is morgue-like...
You only sit on one side of the table, (last supper-like)...
The service is terrible...

...and, once there is service, no one can finish.

[gotyourback]

This restaurant had potential for awhile there, now, however...

The chef is feeding us bull**it...
The atmosphere is morgue-like...
You only sit on one side of the table, (last supper-like)...
The service is terrible...

...and, once there is service, no one can finish.
I'm with ya..... it's like the waitress salad undressing artichoke hearts.

A continued downtrend and I'm all for a major shift change.

[a517dogg]

I'm with ya..... it's like the waitress salad undressing artichoke hearts.

A continued downtrend and I'm all for a major shift change.


Waitress undressing? That would be more entertaining than a 0-0 draw.

[rkane1226]

Okay, check my math...

I believe that means that in percentages, SN is 42%-37%-21%

I used this page http://www.rsssf.com/tablesu/usaalltime.html to get records through last year. I hope it is accurate.


Of course if you leave out 2005 which, after this year is looking like the exception under SN, you get


35%-38%-27%

Putting SN right near the bottom of historical performance.

[patfan1]

Of course if you leave out 2005 which, after this year is looking like the exception under SN, you get

35%-38%-27%

Putting SN right near the bottom of historical performance.
If you were to do that though, you'd have to be fair and take out his worst year. Which still puts him right around .500. Which is pretty much what I've been saying all year. We've improved from what we were, but we haven't really done anything with that talent. Of course, I do realize it's everyone but Nicol's fault. :rolleyes:

[The Magpie]

If the restaurant's under new management, does that mean Weber King has control of the kitchen now ?

:D

The Magpie

[rkane1226]

If you were to do that though, you'd have to be fair and take out his worst year. Which still puts him right around .500. Which is pretty much what I've been saying all year. We've improved from what we were, but we haven't really done anything with that talent. Of course, I do realize it's everyone but Nicol's fault. :rolleyes:

Who says I have to be fair?;)

I concede your point. We'll never get subjectivity out of the equation. I think SN is the best coach they have ever had. I also think he has hit the wall and is headed in the wrong direction. He isn't going to take this team any further. It is particularly disturbing to me that this year's win percentage is currently only 1 point better than his worst year ever.

[KevTheGooner]

It really is kind of sad when you look at the regular season record. Basically 3 mediocre years, one bad year and one good year.


Sort of sounds like MLS all over. League brass has NFL-envy.

[rkane1226]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=378629&root=mls&cc=5901